NewtoMJ
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That list of bills doesn't seem very liberal in the mainstream view of what a liberal is. Seems pretty centrist. A little clintonesque(Bill not Hill).
An actual liberal is running for president
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Padawanbater2
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Be specific, which bill(s)?
WeedFreak78
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My cousins grandmother is 103 with every tooth of her own in perfect condition..so it can happen..
NewtoMJ
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The gateway for the link you provided keeps giving me a 504 error, but I saw a few bills about eliminating conflict of interest inside the federal reserve, more than a few about improving the quality of services our veterans receive and a few about the elimination of subsidies. All of which are great ideas, but not regularly championed by mainstream liberals. There are some bills I saw that could be considered such, but I think this representative Sanders is pretty leveled and may understand good ideas are better than labels.
socalcoolmx
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I thought this video spells out where america is right now with its trickle down economy and republicans only concern is protecting the wealth of the wealthiest, what will happen if we continue this coarse
ttystikk
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This is an excellent video to explain the math. To explain why this is a problem, I suggest you buy and watch Robert Reich's Inequality for All, a movie about what income inequality is doing to our country. Buy it, because you'll want to watch it often, with your friends. It's like $6 thru Wal-Mart site to store.
easy. my newly un-patented voter freeware that @see4 is going to write so we can donate our money to the social reform of this country.
seriously though, online voting..candidates, their platform..they get a free 'go daddy' courtesy of the american people (a $9.99 value)
how did the framers do it?
Grandpapy
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Ben Franklin and his Media Empire.
our media empire is the internet.
time for an update..don't you think?..and the stumping? BFD that's 1850's shit..what's the rush to iowa for anyway? those peoples opinions are not even worth the paper they'd be printed on..and, who gives a flying fuck anyway?..it worse than waiting for punxsutawny phil to predict 6 more weeks of winter or early spring, with about the same odds..pretty incorrect for the most part.
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it's up to us, pada..it's just like the libertarian faction of the right.
we need to get the message out.
we keep saying how to take money out? when we continually hedge and fold it's because we are fucking lazy asses.
no news coverage for you bernie sanders! you don't have the mega bucks in order to suck on teat of american journalism.
i'm voting for this guy..all the way through and i'm going to do my best to see it reality..this would probably be his last opportunity.
i'm going to volunteer for his campaign and i'm ready to get to work now!
don't discount the wild card, folks..a black man with middle name 'hussein' beat the dynasty back in 2008, based on nothing more than 'hope and change'.
Padawanbater2
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It's virtually impossible for Sanders to win, I'm under no delusion otherwise and I'm sure he knows it himself. His campaign will resemble Ron Paul's 08 run. He'll get a lot of backing from independent supporters but the establishment will drown it all out. The best thing to hope for is that he swings some of the conversation to the left during the democratic primary and addresses actual liberal issues. Unless Clinton fucks up big time from now until then, she's going to win, and I don't think any republican candidates will beat her in the general, so she's probably going to be the 45th president. Imo, that will be a disaster for the country. The only good thing I can think of that will probably happen is her appointment of judges on the supreme court, Scalia is 79, Kennedy 78, Breyer 76, and fuckin' Ginsburg is 82, there's likely to be at least one retirement during the next presidents term and the court is already way too conservative.
okay. here's what i'm thinking..do we discount sanders' run and not support him because we know he can't win? but why can't he win? of course he can win..what does he need to win? and why do you think he can't get it? who do you think he should get it from? not voting for someone because they are deemed 'unwinnable' imo is the wrong position to take..we must fight for what we want..we as americans are used to being 'served up' and 'super size everything' we are the only country that does this.
it's more american to go with the underdog than the clear favorite..but it's up to us, not 'someone else' to drive the passion..if everyone donated $1 to his campaign what could that do for him? you see, 'the people' don't need 'favors' or 'special deals'..they just need a government they can rely on..for the people, by the people, simple right?..how did this become so lost in translation? think of what it would be like to have a president who doesn't owe anyone anything? here we have a very brilliant man (he's a jew automatically gets 30+ points on IQ)..who's here for the people, running for the people..exactly what the people want..should be a no-brainer, right?
ginsburg isn't going anywhere, she's already said it as many times as warren said she isn't running..they'll carry her out in a bodybag before she retires...i'd love to get rid of that fuckface scalia and hope he has congestive heart failure someday soon. he also sounds like a perv when giving opinion..his voice is sooooooo creepy. ew.
hey red..i'm leaving tampa tomorrow..last chance for lunch.
Padawanbater2
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No, I support him either way
He can't win because his campaign won't have the funds to compete with Clinton
A lot of money
Because his political views are contradictory to the views of the political establishment
I think every politician should get the funds to run their campaigns from the American people
I agree
Not a goddamn thing. $330 million < the expected $1 billion+ the Clinton campaign is going to spend
Red1966
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First in: Clinton's campaign will be derailed by criminal charges, Sanders will win nomination by vote or default when that happens. Sanders, being a Socialist, will not get much support from all but the most extreme of the Democrats and be totaly shunned by Independants.
Red1966
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If I wasn't 200 miles away, I'd take you up on that
Red1966
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All my teeth are in perfect condition, too. I keep them in a jar in my closet.
Padawanbater2
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We'll see