Am i ready to flush

Flower them

  • yes

    Votes: 3 60.0%

  • no

    Votes: 2 40.0%
  • Total voters
    5
  • Poll closed .
Bbcchance said:
Fair enough, and i can agree that it will depleat stores, i only say that those stores are unused energy(calories) not unused floranova ph perfect grow ginourmous, i equate it to not feeding my grandmother in the last weeks of her life, sure she was gonna die anyway, but i doubt their was any homemade blueberry ice cream left in her after the mortician dried and cured her....im probably going to hell for that one aint I?....
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Her waistline might have been a bit trimmer, there are physiological and likely psychological phenomenon she will experience, whether that aids or opposes any perceived greater pleasure in your last moments with her is subjective and only you can tell, unless you can clone granny and we can do some peer reviewed controlled experiments. :bigjoint:
 
CannaBruh said:
Her waistline might have been a bit trimmer, there are physiological and likely psychological phenomenon she will experience, whether that aids or opposes any perceived greater pleasure in your last moments with her is subjective and only you can tell, unless you can clone granny and we can do some peer reviewed controlled experiments. :bigjoint:
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So dig up a finger and put it in a glass of water, then change water everyday till rooting happens? (this method is known as granny cloning for those who dont get the joke)
 
Bbcchance said:
The hops are tested seperately before brewing and the beer is tested after, however even if the hops were strained out if these chemicals were present they would leach into the mix and still show up on the tests, its just not there man, ive looked everywhere for an actual scientific research paper on flushing cannabis but i just cant find anything but debates and (testimomials) on cannabis sites. So i looked at every other crop instead, no other indusrial crop ive ever found gets (flushed) other than cannabis, not tobbacco, not opium poppies, nothing that i have read about anywhere exept weed sites
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Imagine that .....lol....
 
Shakedown St. said:
Flushing is essential if you have been using synthetic fertilizer and insecticide, you don't want to end up smoking any of that stuff; you can tell when it gives you a headache. In growing organically you don't have to worry about flushing, but usually the last two weeks of flowering you don't want to be dousing it in anything that will be leftover in your final product.
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Dude. Get out of here. Did you copy and paste that?
That is complete nonsense. Why would you spread that?
 
Afgan King said:
I still don't understand how a product being brewed can compare to a product being smoked. One product is supposed to be of a higher quality. Your lungs are more sensitive than your stomach. Please if you guys are going to use examples use ones of products that are smoked. Again @Pokey64 either way there is no documented evidence either way. It's a personal preference thing honestly people saying it hurts your yield just don't know how to do it properly. And again I starve no flush better product with better colors and highlights
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I love you dude but therebis n plenty of evidence of aphagy in plants that are starved. I believe it is irresponsible to push flush or fade on a new grower.
 
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How much growth is really happening in that last week? What exactly are you feeding, what process?

The OP asked about a "flush/starve", it's each and everyone's own choice to do whateverthefucktheywannado.

I'd suggest to the OP, if you have two or more, "feed" one only water (ph'd or not, another preference) and feed the others the same as you have been. Make notes on what you experience which will inform your decision next time.
 
CannaBruh said:
How much growth is really happening in that last week? What exactly are you feeding, what process?

The OP asked about a "flush/starve", it's each and everyone's own choice to do whateverthefucktheywannado.

I'd suggest to the OP, if you have two or more, "feed" one only water (ph'd or not, another preference) and feed the others the same as you have been. Make notes on what you experience which will inform your decision next time.
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Again this is irresponsible. A new grower shouldn't be conducting tests to confirm or deny stoner myth.

The new grower should be reading and will come to the conclusion that it is bullshit. Save himself time and yield.

The reason we don't see scientific data is because all the scientists know how plants function and they would be laughed at for even positing such an idea.

The bodybuilder thing is sorta right. When that bodybuilder is making muscle he doesn't starve to get clean muscle.
When he. Cuts he is actually unhealthy. He is doing this for show. He is cutting all his water weight and most likely is burning a small amount of muscle. He would never do this longer that it takes for his show.
Do you want to lean out your yield? Fuck no
 
bgmike8 said:
Again this is irresponsible. A new grower shouldn't be conducting tests to confirm or deny stoner myth.

The new grower should be reading and will come to the conclusion that it is bullshit. Save himself time and yield.

The reason we don't see scientific data is because all the scientists know how plants function and they would be laughed at for even positing such an idea.

The bodybuilder thing is sorta right. When that bodybuilder is making muscle he doesn't starve to get clean muscle.
When he. Cuts he is actually unhealthy. He is doing this for show. He is cutting all his water weight and most likely is burning a small amount of muscle. He would never do this longer that it takes for his show.
Do you want to lean out your yield? Fuck no
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You are silly, you can grow fine plants without bottled nutrients. Organic grows never feed salts , mostly never feed anything in their water.
 
CannaBruh said:
Nutrients are in the roots, you guys really don't think passive/active absorption is instant do you? Conversion and uptake are not instantaneous.

Instead of picking at my character (assumption that I haven't done my reading) why not try being polite and discussing with some manners?

What happens to what's in the roots when the pressure builds up overnight? There is pressure in the plant and it's not inert hydraulic fluid.
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No attack to your character. However if you read stuff other than weed sites you will learn more and more about what happens when you starve a plant.
Also there is good reason that no one is doing flushing experiments. I too was looking for research. As @Dr. Who pointed out, I won't find any because the whole premise is flawed.

Anyone who truly know how plants work wouldn't test that because the plant biology doesn't work that way.

Now I'm not saying I'm an expert. Obviously I am not. BUT I am learning and it makes much more sense to me now.


You have to forget about the myth and the ancedotal info. And the side by sides.
You have to learn how nutrients work and how a plant functions and then you will see that it just isn't possible so why waste time on experiments.

Also if you eat a bunch of shit like I do, there is no flushing it out. There is no Mt dew and McDonald's stored in my body outside of what I just ate in the n last day. It is converted to energy and fat.
So if I start flushing I'm just burning fat. Not Mt dew and big macs.

And for faders., if I just drink water I will lose weight but my metabolism will slow and I will lose some from muscle as well.
 
Yodaweed said:
You are silly, you can grow fine plants without bottled nutrients. Organic grows never feed salts , mostly never feed anything in their water.
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Exactly why am I silly? I never mentioned anything about organic.

Not sure what you mean.

But while we're here, your plants don't know the difference between organic and chemical nutes. They don't suck the nutes up with a straw.

I'm still getting into this shit but so far the main difference between chemical and organic is the impact on the environment not the taste of bud
 
bgmike8 said:
Exactly why am I silly? I never mentioned anything about organic.

Not sure what you mean.

But while we're here, your plants don't know the difference between organic and chemical nutes. They don't suck the nutes up with a straw.

I'm still getting into this shit but so far the main difference between chemical and organic is the impact on the environment not the taste of bud
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That's wrong :( organic and salt based nutrients work in two different ways. One uses the soil web , the other bypasses it , feeding the plant directly, there is a huge difference in flavors and terps.
 
Yodaweed said:
That's wrong :( organic and salt based nutrients work in two different ways. One uses the soil web , the other bypasses it , feeding the plant directly, there is a huge difference in flavors and terps.
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I'm still reading up on it. Maybe I'll get back to you.

However you still aren't flushing shit out of a bud.
 
So lemme understand this, just so I'm not completely missing something;

To feed to the end is to spend $ on food to feed the plants, no?

If to "starve" is myth... and no discernible difference detected, who is smarter, those who continue to pay to feed the plants at no discernible difference than those who feed water, or those that simply starve the plant?

To suggest to any human to not experiment and reach their own conclusions is the only thing that is irresponsible imo, with all due respect.
 
CannaBruh said:
So lemme understand this, just so I'm not completely missing something;

To feed to the end is to spend $ on food to feed the plants, no?

If to "starve" is myth... and no discernible difference detected, who is smarter, those who continue to pay to feed the plants at no discernible difference than those who feed water, or those that simply starve the plant?

To suggest to any human to not experiment and reach their own conclusions is the only thing that is irresponsible imo, with all due respect.
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I feed to the end then boil for the fade, there are many ways to accomplish a thing

and yeppers experiments are your friend
 
RM3 said:
I feed to the end then boil for the fade, there are many ways to accomplish a thing

and yeppers experiments are your friend
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But by end you are meaning "some time before you actually harvest" yes? So you don't actually feed the plants up to harvest correct?

How long from "boil" until harvest, I'm doing this with F13 in a few weeks fwiw, controlled with a few sisters.
 
CannaBruh said:
But by end you are meaning "some time before you actually harvest" yes? So you don't actually feed the plants up to harvest correct?

How long from "boil" until harvest, I'm doing this with F13 in a few weeks fwiw, controlled with a few sisters.
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3 to 5 days, varies with strains
 
CannaBruh said:
So lemme understand this, just so I'm not completely missing something;

To feed to the end is to spend $ on food to feed the plants, no?

If to "starve" is myth... and no discernible difference detected, who is smarter, those who continue to pay to feed the plants at no discernible difference than those who feed water, or those that simply starve the plant?

To suggest to any human to not experiment and reach their own conclusions is the only thing that is irresponsible imo, with all due respect.
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Respect. I believe there is a discerninable difference.
The science also supports this .
The new grower should grow healthy plants first. Then he can experiment.
This guy doesn't even know when to harvest and you would suggest that he conduct experiments.
Science shows us what happens when we starve. The last week's of growth are important. I think not only yield but trichome production.
Why should a new grower be experimenting against I scientific fact?

There may be something to fading. I don't think so but maybe.
But that should be left to experienced growers and not newbs who are already inundated with flushing myth
 
bgmike8 said:
I'm still reading up on it. Maybe I'll get back to you.

However you still aren't flushing shit out of a bud.
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Why would I need to flush , I only use water.....You might want to read up about no-till organic growing, its a lot different than growing with bottles.
 
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