Aliens

RavenMochi said:

Seems to me that its the other way around. Your so sure that our understanding of physics is flawless, and I've never heard scientist claim this. And what of Quantum Physics, even now new theories are being developed. Yet still, in your self deluded "infinite wisdom" are sure its impossible, and how its useless to speculate. Yet it was speculating like this that let to the physics you so worship. It was once believed by "scientist" that at 60 miles per hour vehicles/we would be torn apart. As our understanding of physics and technology grew, re realized we were wrong, now we break soundbarriers on a regular basis. For all your talk about your understanding of physics, I think you need to take time reading what scientist are working on now, it would surprise you...

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Padawanbater2 said:

Dude, you guys simply are not grasping what I'm saying. Listen to me, this is the last time I'm saying it, I'll say it as simple and clearly as possible..

Our understanding of nothing is flawless. Science does not deal with absolute certainty. No matter how right we think we are about... anything, we could still be wrong.

I have admitted this since I first understood it, which was in the very beginning of my science education in school.

The point I've been making is that it is pointless to sit here and speculate about how some alien species could reach our planet via theoretical means to current human technology. Not only that, Dropastone has been taking all the stuff he's been thinking up that's all theoretical and determining it's already fact. Then trying to use that as evidence to support the idea that aliens visit Earth. How the hell is that not total nonsense to anyone following along?

Watch, I can do the same thing!

Maybe aliens just warp here, somehow send all the atoms they're built with like in the movie Doom to some receiver on this end, ta-da!

Or howbout if they open up other dimensions and just walk through theirs into ours?!

Oh I know! What about if they just already live on one of Saturn or Jupiter's satellites? Then the trip wouldn't take nearly as long as we've been talking about!

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Fuck..

Can you finally see the problem I have with this way of "discussing" this shit?

Pick up where the frustration might come from..?

I don't mean to be a dick, but fuck guys... Aliens COULD get here a MILLION different ways, I don't give a fuck about that. I'm interested in THE REAL ways WE KNOW they MIGHT get here. FUCK! How hard is that to understand?

Here, here's another one...

They might be invisible and already be here in our atmosphere, just cloaked all the time and invisible to our radar technology!

Maybe they're renting a room from the lead singer of the band Creed, that Scott guy, they're just laying low for a couple months till shit cools down economically...

Fuck..


lmao, but fuck man... Don't take this personally.

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Padawanbater2 said:

Dude, you guys simply are not grasping what I'm saying. Listen to me, this is the last time I'm saying it, I'll say it as simple and clearly as possible..

Our understanding of nothing is flawless. Science does not deal with absolute certainty. No matter how right we think we are about... anything, we could still be wrong.

I have admitted this since I first understood it, which was in the very beginning of my science education in school.

The point I've been making is that it is pointless to sit here and speculate about how some alien species could reach our planet via theoretical means to current human technology. Not only that, Dropastone has been taking all the stuff he's been thinking up that's all theoretical and determining it's already fact. Then trying to use that as evidence to support the idea that aliens visit Earth. How the hell is that not total nonsense to anyone following along?

Watch, I can do the same thing!

Maybe aliens just warp here, somehow send all the atoms they're built with like in the movie Doom to some receiver on this end, ta-da!

Or howbout if they open up other dimensions and just walk through theirs into ours?!

Oh I know! What about if they just already live on one of Saturn or Jupiter's satellites? Then the trip wouldn't take nearly as long as we've been talking about!

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....... .....

Fuck..

Can you finally see the problem I have with this way of "discussing" this shit?

Pick up where the frustration might come from..?

I don't mean to be a dick, but fuck guys... Aliens COULD get here a MILLION different ways, I don't give a fuck about that. I'm interested in THE REAL ways WE KNOW they MIGHT get here. FUCK! How hard is that to understand?

Here, here's another one...

They might be invisible and already be here in our atmosphere, just cloaked all the time and invisible to our radar technology!

Maybe they're renting a room from the lead singer of the band Creed, that Scott guy, they're just laying low for a couple months till shit cools down economically...

Fuck..


lmao, but fuck man... Don't take this personally.

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RavenMochi said:

Thats like being able to go back in time to ask Archimedes to explain how people will manage to talk to each other from great distances. You think he would have been like "electrical lines carrying signals over large...etc" No, its would be well past his technological understanding. So in a conversation about intelligent life more advanced then us being able to make the trip, you want a detailed explanation of the technology a race would use to get here. We are not at that level of technological understanding, you dumbshit. That doesn't mean we won't be, we just sure as shit aren't now. And yea, being invisible to radar would be crazy...oh, wait, stealth planes...You knew this was going to be a hypothetical conversation to begin with, if thats a problem for you, then don't participate, how fucking hard is that, seriously?

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RavenMochi said:

Actually, most of the time I see your post you seem to be throwing one fit or another. If it frustrates you so, why keep up with it? Or do you just need drama in your life?

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RavenMochi said:

I used to be a mobile for a radio station (our sole job was to check out the wrecks and call in with reports, ie lanes blocked, fatality/no, etc) so I don't look at it the same way, When I pass an accident now I don't look, seen enough for 5 lifetimes...

where does it get us? I didn't pay anything, so I don't expect anything. Its a conversation to stay entertained when I have time to login and check what threads have done what. Its like most of what you watch on discovery channel, pick up some useless facts, burn a half hour, and thats about it. I don't sit there afterwards and wonder, "what good was watching that to me?" It was a fleeting entertainment, nothing more....a chance to figure out what other people are thinking on the matter.

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Padawanbater2 said:

Well to me it's a lot bigger than that. I wish I could just sit down and enjoy shit like that but something in my brain wont allow it to happen.

I know deep down I most likely won't change jack shit about anything typing away my thoughts and opinions, yet here I am. I don't really know what you call that...

Doesn't matter I guess.

It just bothers me to see otherwise smart people carry such misguided opinions about real world issues that really do mean something. I hear what you're probably thinking right about now all the time... "but dude, you're just thinking too much about it, you're taking it too seriously, just relax and don't worry about any of that, live your life and enjoy it.."... Well, that is my life. Perhaps the problems exist because not enough people do take them seriously...

Idk man... The world won't end while I'm around so fuck it right? It might, and probably will, get a lot fuckin' worse than it is... Make the most of what you've got.

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RavenMochi said:

Thats like being able to go back in time to ask Archimedes to explain how people will manage to talk to each other from great distances. You think he would have been like "electrical lines carrying signals over large...etc" No, its would be well past his technological understanding. So in a conversation about intelligent life more advanced then us being able to make the trip, you want a detailed explanation of the technology a race would use to get here. We are not at that level of technological understanding, you dumbshit. That doesn't mean we won't be, we just sure as shit aren't now. And yea, being invisible to radar would be crazy...oh, wait, stealth planes...You knew this was going to be a hypothetical conversation to begin with, if thats a problem for you, then don't participate, how fucking hard is that, seriously?

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RavenMochi said:

Okay, what about the conversation do you feel needs to be treated more seriously? Is your concern that if it were us, we would be scoping out the other planet thinking "this shit is about to be ours..."? Is it the fact that the rumors suggest that they've been checking out our nuclear defense facilities?

To answer one of your concerns about the possibility of using worm holes, traversable wormholes, would only be possible if with negative energy density could be used to stabilize them. Which sound like saying "its impossible" only we are learning to make antimatter in a more stable form (apparently at first we were proud to pull of a 10th of second before it was gone, now they won't say, only that it can be measured by a real world clock...) So while I damn sure won't be on the front lines of testing that theory, make no mistake, someone will...

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RavenMochi said:

But what is it you feel they aren't figuring out. And how was spitting out scientific theory being explored by the scientific minds of our day scientific illiteracy. Not to be a dick, but it seems like that fits you more than anyone. Its like all of these studies happened while you were under a rock...Did you forget that the atomic bomb was once considered only theoretical? What is the wrong way. Please, teach us to think. When I put it that way, sounds kinda pompous, doesn't it? Thats how your coming across. I've gotten through my life figuring out everything I needed to without you telling me how to think. but no, go on oh wise one, what is wrong with out thought process?

In fact, tell me ANYTHING that you've figured out on your own that flies past the feeble minds of the rest of us....

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Dude CLEARLY just copy/pasted both those articles without even reading them first, did you see how I dissected it and proved exactly what I said he was doing? The entire thing was speculation.

And the fact this needs even further explaining is beyond my comprehension, but fuck it, we'll try yet AGAIN...

When did I ever say theoretical science was useless?

I said speculating on the technologies aliens could have is useless in this discussion. As I said before, they COULD HAVE ANYTHING, are we going to sit here and talk about all the things they could have that we just haven't figured out yet?

Will someone else step in and mediate this shit, because if I'm explaining it in a way that is just impossible to understand, fuckin' tell me, Jesus, let's move past this shit already...

And I'm not telling you how you should think.

I made an observation that most people these days simply don't think past survival.

They take it completely for granted.


If by "the rest of us" you mean a simple majority, that's easy as fuck.

I'm an atheist bro.. lmfao

Padawanbater2 said:

I said speculating on the technologies aliens could have is useless in this discussion. As I said before, they COULD HAVE ANYTHING, are we going to sit here and talk about all the things they could have that we just haven't figured out yet?
I'm an atheist bro.. lmfao

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Tw3nti3ight said:

This plant we all love is ET...

The pot plant is an ALIEN plant. There is physical evidence that cannabis is not like any other plant on this planet. One could conclude that it was brought here for the benefit of humanity. Cannabis is the ONLY plant where the males appear one way and the females appear very different, physically! No one ever speaks of males and females in regard to the plant kingdom because plants do not show their sexes; except for cannabis. To determine what sex a certain, normal, Earthly plant is: You have to look internally, at its DNA. A male blade of grass (physically) looks exactly like a female blade of grass. The hemp plant has an intense sexuallity.

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Padawanbater2 said:

Conveniently skipped over the entire rest of my post where I brought up Tysons point about traversing the void of interstellar space only to crash land on Earth...

That makes perfect sense to you?

..nothing to say about the European analogy

OK then...

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SOGfarmer said:

Well what you failed to realize is that i said there are thousands of UFO sightings every year. I don't know if many UFO crash landing sightings lol. There there. You choose to disregard them. Whatever tho obv wont be changin ur mind.

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