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Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Is any of this accurate:

In OUR science, there are two (2) basic types of bonds by which atoms
form molecules - ionic and covalent bonds. An atom is normally
electrically neutral. It has the same number of positively charged
protons in its nucleus as it has negatively charged electrons in captive
orbits.

In THIS system things are different. There is an UNKNOWN METHOD by which
the atoms are changed. Instead of ionic or covalent bonds, this new
system creates a THIRD TYPE of bonding principle. This new type of
bonding causes atoms to take on a different form. Atoms go from a normal
state -- and when I say "normal," I mean normal in OUR science -- to a
"multiplexed" form. In other words, the atoms are doubled or
"piggy-backed" onto each other.

The atoms are somewhat mutated, but maintain their original shape. I
KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. That is why we still DON'T
understand it. I'll give you a simple example.

If you can recall basic chemistry, you will remember that a hydrogen
atom consists of a single proton -- the nucleus -- with one electron in
a captive state. When two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their
combined energy becomes lower if they SHARE their electrons. Well, in
this new system, a hydrogen atom, subjected to this new system (inside
this propulsion system) changes to a NEW principle.

First, when two hydrogen atoms approach each other, their combined
energy level becomes MULTIPLIED through this strange bonding principle.
So, instead of having a lower energy level, the energy is MULTIPLIED by
the number of atoms of hydrogen that is bonded. If we used the QUANTUM
IDEA to understand this, we would conclude that quantum principles do
NOT work in this new system.

Normally, in our system, positively-charged ions attract and bond to
negatively-charged ions to form molecules. This is NOT the case in this
new system. It makes NO difference whether the ions are positive or
negative as they bond together regardless of valence. We do know that
inside this propulsion system, something causes these strange unnatural
phenomena to occur.

Two plates of metal sit inside a chamber. This chamber is a vacuum. The
chamber is a PERFECT VACUUM, that is, there is no outside air or other
gases inside this chamber. A tube running from one chamber into another,
pushes a gas inside. A third chamber forces still another gas to enter
the first chamber. We know that the gases push against these two plates
of metal and cause an ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF ENERGY TO BE CREATED.

Lastly, just before the gases are "mixed," there is a form of light that
is focused against the outgoing energy. This light is of a lower
frequency. Normally, in our quantum theory, a small frequency means a
lower energy. However, is this system, the lower frequency of light was
measured to contain an enormous amount of energy exerted upon this
outgoing energy. When I left in 1988, we could NOT understand how the
gases were mixed nor could we determine HOW the light was generated.

You ask about the metals inside this vacuum container. Quite intriguing.
First, the metal strips are located inside Container #1. They are
setting perpendicular to each other at exactly 6.54 cm apart. Each metal
strip measures 18.45 cm x 9.43 cm. Each metal strip is 3.46 cm wide. The
sides of the strips facing each other contain a shiny metal coating. The
opposite sides contain a dull coating.

Looking at the metal strips from above, one will notice that another
substance is sandwiched between the outer two substances. The materials
in each of the metal strips have never been identified. We do know the
density of the metal strips and the hardness as measured by the Mohs
scale.

The density of the metal strips are 94.5 [9.45?] on the shiny side and
34.2 [3.42?] on the opposite side. I believe the density or specific
gravity was measured by the conventional method, in that the value is
grams per centimeter cubed. NOT being a metallurgist, I cannot make
comments on these values. But what IS interesting is that these two
strips of metals are located inside a somewhat round vacuum container.
The outer coating of this container is also shiny.

You mention the gases. I am not a chemist. I knew very little about the
gases contained in Containers #2 and #3. These gases are two distinct
types. One is a gas-liquid type and the other is a solid gas. Don't ask
me to explain these two; I don't believe that our chemical engineers
could do that. I just know that once the device is activated, the two
gases mix and create energy by some method.
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TEUFELHuNDEN420

TEUFELHuNDEN420

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sounds legit, i dont know where you're quoting this from but, the method for the experiment sounds just like a particle accelerator where they blast fuckin protons and mofukkin neutrons and shit like that at each other to make new elements by chance..

Either that or i am way too high and am reading some fuckered up alien stuffS... o wait i am just reading alien stuffs because its imPOSsible to Be 2 HI
 
email468

email468

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Erniedytn said:
Is any of this accurate:
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I'm not a chemist but i can tell you that:
if i were dividing chemical bonds into two categories, it would be weak and strong - ionic and covalent bonds being two types of strong. But the thing is - whoever wrote this is making a big deal about some unknown 3rd bond - but makes no mention of the many other types of chemical bonds such as the following:
Bent bonds
3c-2e
3c-4e
metallic bond
polar covalent bond
hydrogen bond
van der Waals (dipole)

This lack of proper classification and let's face it baloney (there are obviously way more ways to bond than two plus an unknown) means whatever follows is based on a faulty premise. But what follows isn't even theory it is him explaining how he can't explain because it is so complicated no one (himself included) can understand it.

and then he mentions "OUR" science ... er there is science not our science - your science, my science .... just science. Then he flat out says "I KNOW THIS IS VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND. That is why we still DON'T understand it." He admits he has no clue and yet continues to "explain" this mysterious unknown something that does what again?

I wouldn't call this research, science or even a theory.

Now that I've handed in my homework assignment, I have one for you if you're up to it. The next item you find that you wonder if it is true or not - research and debunk it yourself. Even if you believe it, try to at least find where the argument might be weak or have some holes in it.
:joint:
 
Titania

Titania

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email468 said:
I would strongly encourage you to start by reading: "The Demon-Haunted World" by Carl Sagan. That is a solid base on which to build.
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Hey you read that, nice 1. Great book and Author.:blsmoke:

"It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

-Carl Sagan-
 
email468

email468

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Titania said:
Hey you read that, nice 1. Great book and Author.:blsmoke:

"It is better to grasp the Universe as it really is than persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring."

-Carl Sagan-
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I've read a good bit of Sagan but i think this particular book is extra appropriate. I think my favorite user-friendly science author is Dawkins but Sagan pushes him to second place once in awhile.
 
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Erniedytn

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
The Serpo dude says that Carl Sagan was involved with that project directly...probably baloney as well.
 
Titania

Titania

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email468 said:
I've read a good bit of Sagan but i think this particular book is extra appropriate. I think my favorite user-friendly science author is Dawkins but Sagan pushes him to second place once in awhile.
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reading the Blind watchmaker at the moment.:blsmoke:
 
email468

email468

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Titania said:
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reading the Blind watchmaker at the moment.:blsmoke:
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great, great book! The Ancestor's Tale is another good one. And The God Delusion is awesome. I just finished The Devil's Chaplain.

If you're interested in more titles and websites drop me a PM and I'll provide some - though you are probably familiar with them already. :joint:
 
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