Beachwalker
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Okay, I saw the turtle so that's why I asked
ALIEN TECH
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too larry
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Turtle island is a good visual, but I'm more used to Creek mythology. Their creation story is that the Creator put the turtle in charge of the other animals kind of like a straw boss. He led each of them to do their part in turning the world from a dark, swampy place with no clean water, land or air, into the world we know today. The ducks would dive down and get mud and grass to plant. The beaver used his tail to pack it. The turkey used his wings to dry it out. The hawk and eagle flew back and forth through the thick clouds to make a path for the sun to shine through. Each animal did his part, with the Creator instructing the turtle, then the turtle making sure it got done. But it went to the turtle's head, and he got really bossy. All the other animals went to the Creator to complain. His punishment was to take the turtle's voice away. He is the only animal in the woods without a voice.
At the end of the job, the creator was tired, so he laid under a cedar tree to take a nap. While he was sleeping, the tree soaked up his breath. That is why we put the cedar boughs on the hot rocks of the sweat lodge. It's God's Breath.
Beachwalker
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Why are all species not in all stages of evolving at all times?
Adaptation = real
Evolution = forget about it
Beachwalker
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No Technologies I've mentioned were made by humans. At least not made by humans in what we call the known world today.
You're talking about invisibility cloaks and basically smoke and mirrors technology. I'm familiar with what you're speaking of. I'm not talking about technology like light refracting or hiding in some way..
For clarification I'm talking about things de facto coming and going, being here and then disappearing into thin air, and/or becoming invisible and staying present, and we not knowing they're even there.
* I'm not speaking of or describing "ghosts and or Spiritual Beings" in this thread, I believe that's a different topic (although actually not a separate topic, at least not to me but I think we can treat it as seperate for the purpose of this thread) im talking about alien technology, things created by what most would call 'aliens')
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Roger A. Shrubber
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they aren't in all stages of evolution at the same time because the successful changes displace the unsuccessful ones, and the carriers of those genetics die off. the more successful "evolutionary adaptations" keep spreading their genetics. the changes can be so small that you would have to be a scientist to be aware of them, changes in tooth or beak size and shape, slight changes to better deal with environmental challenges, changes within their bodies that aren't apparent at all from observation. there can actually be several stages of evolution going on at once in the insect world, where things happen quicker. a new adaptation comes along, the ones that carry it are more successful, but they don't displace the more unsuccessful immediately, it may take several generations for the better mutation to out compete the "worse" one...
Roger A. Shrubber
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https://futurism.com/videos/detailed-map-date-place-universe/
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-space/solar-systems-in-galaxy.html
there are Two Billion stars in the milky way galaxy. there are several million in our arm, the Orion arm...we sit on a small lesser arm, with nothing of note in our general vicinity.
i think i'm being generous, but if one percent of those planets have life on them, thats 20 million planets. out of two billion.
here i'll be even more generous. if ten percent of those planets are sufficiently advanced to have interstellar travel, thats 2 million planets....sounds like a lot?
each one of those planets would have to search more than 1000 other planetary systems to even have a chance of finding us.
"but we're broadcasting tv and radio signals, surely they can follow that to us".....there are thousands, maybe millions of sources of radio noise in the galaxy, which would make it the equivalent of an alien playing with the rabbit ears on top of the tv and lucking into finding a good hbo signal.....
i won't say aliens have never been here, but if they were, it was to fix a flat and move on to much more interesting places....Earth is the galactic equivalent of bumfuque, no one stops there willingly....
https://spaceplace.nasa.gov/review/dr-marc-space/solar-systems-in-galaxy.html
there are Two Billion stars in the milky way galaxy. there are several million in our arm, the Orion arm...we sit on a small lesser arm, with nothing of note in our general vicinity.
i think i'm being generous, but if one percent of those planets have life on them, thats 20 million planets. out of two billion.
here i'll be even more generous. if ten percent of those planets are sufficiently advanced to have interstellar travel, thats 2 million planets....sounds like a lot?
each one of those planets would have to search more than 1000 other planetary systems to even have a chance of finding us.
"but we're broadcasting tv and radio signals, surely they can follow that to us".....there are thousands, maybe millions of sources of radio noise in the galaxy, which would make it the equivalent of an alien playing with the rabbit ears on top of the tv and lucking into finding a good hbo signal.....
i won't say aliens have never been here, but if they were, it was to fix a flat and move on to much more interesting places....Earth is the galactic equivalent of bumfuque, no one stops there willingly....
Roger A. Shrubber
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no, it would NOT be going in both directions. evolutionary changes occur in response to changes in environment. if the average temperature rises a couple of degrees, that requires a better circulatory system, less body hair, better sweat glands...unless the temperatures drop significantly for a long period of time, there would be no biological reason to change back....so why would evolution go both ways? ever?
and evolution IS perpetual. We're all evolving right now...and so is every species alive. we constantly change, the changes are just so small and take so long that to us it seems we're all the same.
https://australianmuseum.net.au/how-have-we-changed-since-our-species-first-appeared
Beachwalker
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Rodger I owe you an apology. I stated a while ago on another thread that I thought you were AKA that shit-sniff potato of a troll with a similar first name, but after reading you for a while I realize that on your worst day you couldn't sound as asinine and juvenile as that puke, so again I apologize for that and I no longer believe it's true.
Roger A. Shrubber
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well, i appreciate that.
apparently i remind several people of someone who used to be here.....not sure if i'm glad i never got the chance to meet him or not....probably better that i never did, i'm not that fond of myself, no point in spreading that around
Beachwalker
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I thank you for your gracious acceptance.
I guess 'alien tech' is the right thread for this, I took this picture earlier this year..
.. anyone?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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looks like a plane with a radar dish of some sort to me, did it turn or tilt when you were looking at it?
Beachwalker
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By going in both directions I mean that would be the previous and whatever was before that and maybe for the back unless you think every species dies off instantly feel like they want you to believe about dinosaurs? and there would also be the next level and going forward, all these would by necessity coexist no species none has its previous and its next so-called evolutionary step none they can tell you well this evolved from that and this evolved from this but it's all crap aka unproven theories
I guess what I'm trying to say is that your world it's a hard and fast jump and it's not.
Every species would have some previous form of evolution and maybe several forms, maybe going back several so-called evolutionary changes.
it doesn't just happen and then everything is new and 'evolved' like they want you to believe or what you seem to believe? maybe I'm misunderstanding but I'm trying to clarify what I'm trying to say
This isn't a it topic I care enough to get involved with and I think G buddy has said plenty on it. I haven't read it all but I've read quite a bit of what he said and agree. it would be nice if this could stay Alien Tech, but hey who knows, it could happen? Stranger things have
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Roger A. Shrubber
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the stages don't stick around. in the Galapagos, they've studied some of the most quickly evolving species alive, there are birds that are identical, but on one island they have a slightly different beak to eat the different plants that are prevalent on that island. across a few hundred feet of water, the birds have a beak designed for the cactus that grows on that island and not the other...
but in general, the changes are so slow, that we don't realize they're ocurring till they've already occured. there are species where there are previous adaptations existing alongside new ones, but usually, those changes are so small, and there are so many species to watch, that no one notices them for quite a while.
but in general, the changes are so slow, that we don't realize they're ocurring till they've already occured. there are species where there are previous adaptations existing alongside new ones, but usually, those changes are so small, and there are so many species to watch, that no one notices them for quite a while.
Grandpapy
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One of the planes, photographed in flight last week by the AP in northern Virginia, bristled with unusual antennas under its fuselage and a camera on its left side. A federal budget document from 2010 mentioned at least 115 planes, including 90 Cessna aircraft, in the FBI's surveillance fleet.
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/national-international/FBI-Mysterious-Low-Flying-Surveillance-Planes-Over-US-Cities-305832091.html
Beachwalker
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Perhaps 'going both ways' was a poor choice of words, let me try to clarify :
the previous, or several previous steps of evolution would also be present, as would the next step going in the forward Direction (according to evolution dogma, as it's always on-going)
- No input on the actual alien technology in the picture above??
I'm sure somebody knows better than me what it is, cuz I only took the picture?
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Roger A. Shrubber
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you're assuming that the "stages" would be apparent. that we're talking about something like a generation of people being born with tails....that's not the case, the changes are tiny, and incremental. and they do exist at the same times, sometimes, until the new, more successful mutation out competes the older, less advantageous model. how would you be aware of the fact that some people have a slightly more efficient circulatory system? but those people survive better, they're able to keep themselves cooler in hot weather, they're able to work longer and harder before they tire, their new circulatory keeps their brains cooler, so it can slowly become even more convoluted...
so, it is indeed going on all the time, and we are living in the presence of the next step, and so are they, probably....
Roger A. Shrubber
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you don't know what that is, or you wouldn't be asking.
before you claim something to be "actual proof" of anything, you might want more than one fuzzy picture to stake the claim on. it could be an alien ship....or it could be a surveillance plane of some kind, or it could be two seagulls fucking in flight.....till you have a better idea what it is, it's not "actual proof " of anything except that you own a camera...and you could have copied and pasted that...so it's not really proof of anything
Beachwalker
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No I don't know what it is (I think I said that about 6 times?) I know what somebody told me it was. I also know it's nothing that you've described. This is why I don't really hold conversations with people who think that everything came from nothing (big majic bang) because.. well just think of why, well I guess you can't because that's the kind of nonsense you also believe, that's why I don't talk much about this type thing LOL people who deny what's right in front of them (fact) in order to continue serving (false &/ unproven/undemonstratable) theories, all I can say to that is enjoy
By the way I've seen seagulls mate down the beach (it's not pretty!) but that's not it