Agent's 2nd Organic Grow- Pineapple Chunk, LSD, Euforia 200wCFL/600HPS

Hemlock

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You know agent i have never heard of cold weather locking out nutes. But I'm not sure. Have you flushed them during this grow?
If not maybe when it,,, warms up a bit,(LOL),,,, you should flush them. You don't have to wait till it warms up just wanted to kid ya..LOL
 

Agent Provocateur

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Hey Hemlock- i read this somewhere:

Cold
Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can lock up phosphorous. Some varieties, like equatorial sativas, don't take well to cold weather. If you can keep the roots warmer, the plant will be able to take cooler temps than it otherwise could.

i now have snow outside and apparently its down to minus 3 at night- the plants are in the garage so it will protect them from frost but not the cold generally, the purpling on the plants is getting worse since it turned cold. When the lights are on at night the temp is 50 degrees and my meter is reading about 35 (1 degree celsius!) at its lowest when the lights are off in the day.

Im going to have to put a heater in there i think, but all i have are convector heaters which basically will send my electric bill soaring! :(
 

Hemlock

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Hey Hemlock- i read this somewhere:

Cold
Cold weather (below 50F/10C) can lock up phosphorous. Some varieties, like equatorial sativas, don't take well to cold weather. If you can keep the roots warmer, the plant will be able to take cooler temps than it otherwise could.

i now have snow outside and apparently its down to minus 3 at night- the plants are in the garage so it will protect them from frost but not the cold generally, the purpling on the plants is getting worse since it turned cold. When the lights are on at night the temp is 50 degrees and my meter is reading about 35 (1 degree celsius!) at its lowest when the lights are off in the day.

Im going to have to put a heater in there i think, but all i have are convector heaters which basically will send my electric bill soaring! :(

What about a heating pad instead of a heater???
 

Agent Provocateur

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had a look at them but they appear to be expensive and i cant afford it at this time of year :(
they could do with having a holiday at yours lol:)
 

Agent Provocateur

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Yay my organic PK booster arrived together with some fresh bloom nutrients. Im hoping this will help combat the nute def i seem to be having with the plants. The LSD's are showing alot of purpling still which is progressing up the plant quite alarmingly with stunted new growth so of the 1-3 ml instruction on the bottle i decided to give em maximum dose of the PK booster in hope that it settles down a bit. The PC's are pale and showing potassium def in older leaves however new growth is coming out a nice deep green, so i dosed those slightly less. runoff is around 6.4 but my temperature issue is my main concern. This morn the temp was -6 outside!!!!!! Although in a garage the temp is about freezing lol so ive put a heater in, however this seems to have upset the hygrometer and isnt reading- which indicates the humidity is less than 30%- arghhhh! fix one problem and you get another!!! what to do now? the heater is a temp fix as its a convector type and i can only imagine its wolloping up my elecricity bill as we speak- i've seen a small oil filled radiator type heater which uses only 450w so i think ill buy that to help keep the chill off, any thoughts to if this is a good idea guys?

thanks

Agent xxx
 

Hemlock

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Yay my organic PK booster arrived together with some fresh bloom nutrients. Im hoping this will help combat the nute def i seem to be having with the plants. The LSD's are showing alot of purpling still which is progressing up the plant quite alarmingly with stunted new growth so of the 1-3 ml instruction on the bottle i decided to give em maximum dose of the PK booster in hope that it settles down a bit. The PC's are pale and showing potassium def in older leaves however new growth is coming out a nice deep green, so i dosed those slightly less. runoff is around 6.4 but my temperature issue is my main concern. This morn the temp was -6 outside!!!!!! Although in a garage the temp is about freezing lol so ive put a heater in, however this seems to have upset the hygrometer and isnt reading- which indicates the humidity is less than 30%- arghhhh! fix one problem and you get another!!! what to do now? the heater is a temp fix as its a convector type and i can only imagine its wolloping up my elecricity bill as we speak- i've seen a small oil filled radiator type heater which uses only 450w so i think ill buy that to help keep the chill off, any thoughts to if this is a good idea guys?

thanks

Agent xxx

Ok how bout a fan with a wet towel in front of it to create humidity??? Man these are problems i typically never have to worry bout cause its warm. Put a DEhumidifer in the room and set it on 50% and let her rip...
How bout a bucket full of water with a fan blowing over top of it...You maybe if we clap our ruby red slippers together and say DST, Don, Me West, we need your help come right away and they'll tell ya how to deal with this cold weather shit..Let me see if I can fire the boys up and see what we stoner can come up with...
 

mr west

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Im here on my way to bed. How about u dry ur washing in the same room, drying clothes indoors always up my rh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>casey and bubble:joint: im all out of ideas now lol
 

Don Gin and Ton

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mornin ms P,

id be very careful how much humidity you put in there with this cold. if it drops you could totally frost your girls. ok firstly is there any way to seal the garage up or ast least restrict the airflow in there to a minimum? tape cracks in doors vents etc. the purpling i wouldnt worry about too much as youve still got new growth shooting out the tops, the yellowing from the bottom is a classic sign of overwatering. id say drop your nutes a little and water less. how often are you watering? if possible and i know it will be a chore try and do a half feed in the mortning half later.

the oil filled heater is a good plan if possible get one with a thermostat, it might cost you more but will give better average temps. crazy as it sounds you could try putting the thing inside the tent if its dropping to -3 at night in there?

im guessing you must be uk somewhere to be suffering it this bad? its damned cold in newcastle but so far ive managed to leave my heater out of the op, my vegging girls are suffering tho.

ttfn ms p
 

DST

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Hey Agent, I use a tropical greenhouse heater when the temps start going haywire. Basically you just turn it on and wait till the temp in the room hits what you want then turn the thermostat down until it switches itself off. When the thermostat senses the temp dropping down below the previous set temparature, it fires it back up again....you can get these things relatively cheaply...prob at places like argos etc in the UK. 20 quid or so.

Re RH, with the cold weather your RH outside should be fairly high, I know this sounds daft, but if you can pull some of that cold air in there will be plenty of moisture in it. I know it seems daft to heat the room and also pull in cold air, but that will def keep your RH stable. Alternatively I use to live in a tenament block in Glasgow with storage heaters - the bain of the poor - that just pumped out dry air. I use to leave a bowl of warmish water sitting on top of each radiator and it would vaish rapidly. It's a pain to keep filling them but it will work. Plenty foliar feeding as well (but watch for Powdery Mildew!!)

Good luck with it all. Gives a shout if there is any other way we can help you spend your money on yet more products, haha.

Peace, DST
 

Agent Provocateur

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Im here on my way to bed. How about u dry ur washing in the same room, drying clothes indoors always up my rh>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>casey and bubble:joint: im all out of ideas now lol

Hiya Mr West thanks for the advice:D sorry for the delay in response - have to stay on site at place of work and do shitty on-calls:( Anyways i've instructed my other half to hang some wet towels up and buy an oil filled heater to replace the awful leccy zapping convector i had in there - apparently the humidity bounced back to 45 with temp sitting nicely at 11 C- yet to see it myself yet as the ladies are on sleep time so hopefully it stays like that :D
 

Agent Provocateur

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mornin ms P,

id be very careful how much humidity you put in there with this cold. if it drops you could totally frost your girls. ok firstly is there any way to seal the garage up or ast least restrict the airflow in there to a minimum? tape cracks in doors vents etc. the purpling i wouldnt worry about too much as youve still got new growth shooting out the tops, the yellowing from the bottom is a classic sign of overwatering. id say drop your nutes a little and water less. how often are you watering? if possible and i know it will be a chore try and do a half feed in the mortning half later. the oil filled heater is a good plan if possible get one with a thermostat, it might cost you more but will give better average temps. crazy as it sounds you could try putting the thing inside the tent if its dropping to -3 at night in there?

im guessing you must be uk somewhere to be suffering it this bad? its damned cold in newcastle but so far ive managed to leave my heater out of the op, my vegging girls are suffering tho.

ttfn ms p

Hiya Don thanks for popping in :D i've taped up the garage as much as poss- think i've sorted out the heating now with the oil heater- yep other half has popped it inside tent too- seems temp and RH has improved:D The yellowing hmm perhaps i should have clarified a bit better lol, its not yellowing pe se as it tends to happen on overwatering- i know what you mean as did it last grow lol- more the plant is Paling apart from the growing shoots- its always been a pale plant (PC) in relation to the others and it has like brown pin prick spots and brown to the very edge of the blade on the leaf- this is happening on the older leaves so i thought it might be potassium def? weird as the other plants arent doing it - only that variety- although the other varieties ( LSD and Euforia) are purpling instead!! argh! lol but leaves are dark green other than that. Im feeding em all the same nutes and watering only every 3 days or so when soil has dried out- so hopefully not over watering but i dunno lol. I bought a PK booster in hoping it was just a deficiency with those plants. Yep your correct im from UK just a little south form Newcastle :)- unfortunately dont reckon i can feed in the morning lol find it hard enough getting out for 6am as it is lol, plus plants are in the dark from that time onwards too :(

Thanks very much for advice

Agent xxx
 

Agent Provocateur

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Hey Agent, I use a tropical greenhouse heater when the temps start going haywire. Basically you just turn it on and wait till the temp in the room hits what you want then turn the thermostat down until it switches itself off. When the thermostat senses the temp dropping down below the previous set temparature, it fires it back up again....you can get these things relatively cheaply...prob at places like argos etc in the UK. 20 quid or so.

Re RH, with the cold weather your RH outside should be fairly high, I know this sounds daft, but if you can pull some of that cold air in there will be plenty of moisture in it. I know it seems daft to heat the room and also pull in cold air, but that will def keep your RH stable. Alternatively I use to live in a tenament block in Glasgow with storage heaters - the bain of the poor - that just pumped out dry air. I use to leave a bowl of warmish water sitting on top of each radiator and it would vaish rapidly. It's a pain to keep filling them but it will work. Plenty foliar feeding as well (but watch for Powdery Mildew!!)

Good luck with it all. Gives a shout if there is any other way we can help you spend your money on yet more products, haha.

Peace, DST
Hiya DST hun, sadly i didnt see this until i instructed the other half to get the oil heater- however seems to be doing trick atm :D fingers crossed now to try and get on top of these suspected deficiencies lol :D Storage heaters- i remember those from my parents cottage LMAO! still bloody frozen unless i elected to sit on one to get warm lol and yeah growing these babies seems to cost a bloody arm and a leg lol- almost the cost of a real one it seems atm :P

Agent xxx
 

Agent Provocateur

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PIC_1539.JPGPIC_1540.JPGPIC_1544.JPGPIC_1541.JPGPIC_1552.JPGPIC_1553.JPGPIC_1546.JPGPIC_1547.JPGPIC_1555.JPGPIC_1542.JPGPIC_1548.JPGPIC_1545.JPGPIC_1549.JPGPIC_1551.JPGPIC_1543.JPGPIC_1554.JPGHeres updated pics on my problems- im hoping they will get better with the new heater and nutes, Don i've taken pics to show what i mean by the yellowing- you will see a comparrison by what i call normal as being the WW widow at back in a nice green- one in front of it is one of the PC's ( the other pc is out of shot at far left back ) and the euforia to the right- you can see that all plants seem to show different problems despite feeding em the same lol- i can see now why peeps tend to keep to growing one or a minimal types of strain- such an arse to keep em all happy! lol :D
 

Agent Provocateur

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about 3-4 weeks on the more mature one if the flower time is correct, however one is about a week and a half behind its older sister so hmm. thanks for your kind comment:D Hoping the added heat and PK booster solves my probs:)
 
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