sparkafire
Well-Known Member
You know GB its almost too easy!Oh but that was SPOT ON mate!!!!!
THAT is the whole reason for this thread... lol...
Bugs... you look so... frustrated.... hahahahaha...
Cheers....
sometimes i cry for him. LOL
Aerocloners unite!!!
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sometimes i cry for him. LOL
StinkBud
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You are going to have problems with algae if you don't use a dark container. The only container to use is the dark blue or black Rubbermaid Roughneck container. It is the only one that dosen't leak!I just took 8 cuts and put them in my new cloner. This will be the first time i use this cloner. I hope to have sum roots in 7-14 days.
This is what i put in my cloner
8 cutting
3 gal. of Tap water PHed to 5.8
3 drop of superthrive
10ml/L of Clonex
30ml of 35% H202
Im leaving my flouro lights, cloner, and fan on 24/7 till i see roots.....
StinkBud
Well-Known Member
I've tried every container and every type of silicon and weather stripping made. The only thing that works is a Rubbermaid Roughneck container. You need to get a dark one so no light can get through and cause algae to grow.
sparkafire
Well-Known Member
Stinkbud I am going to have to interject on this because I use the same tubs and trays as he does and i have had no problems with them. I was told too that it would build algae but its been a non issue.
I wonder if its one of those things that because it looks like it should therefor it must be.
And yes rubbermaid is the way to go. But i run my tanks topless except the cloner which is a rubbermaid
Styl!st07
Well-Known Member
Thanks spark for backing me up, IOU
NO LEAKS hear buddy
This is a SOLID white container (not CLEAR) witch lets no light thru, plus its only a flouro bulb anyways, i dought its powerful enough to cause any problems with allege, not trying to bang u down but i know spark is not as nice as me when u back him in a corner lets give him sum breathing room.lol
Thats why i love this container cuz its white and reflects all light back to the source (the plants) and plus its looks cool to. lol
Im all about looks too when its cums to stuff like this. Its a bad habit i do it with everything. everything has to be perfect and looks perfect for me to even take credit for it. I spent allot of time a effort on this one. I used allot of silicone and large weather stripping and came up with this nifty lil thing. I think it super fly................
grandpabear3
New Member
i'm trying the plumbers goop and weather stripping method when i get home tomorrow. i'm fighting stinkbud even though i kinda think he's right and it pisses me off a lil.i'll let you know how it does with leaks afterwards
ya, i remember happy.....hmmmm, sigh. then the killings started. dead clones as far as the eye could see......some things people just arent meant to see man.
dammit spark that was funny, i'm proud of you lil buddy
dammit i swear...one more time and imma do sumthin bad. keep it up......you got bout but one mo' gens to encourage that monkey and .....well ,
i hear ya but its hard with that darn sparkafart causing upheaval all over the place....its madness i tell you
DID ANYONE HEAR THAT.....IT WAS AN AUDIBLE SNAP FROM ION MY HEAD. IT'S GONE GET UGLY FOLKS.....STICK AROUND!Oh but that was SPOT ON mate!!!!!
THAT is the whole reason for this thread... lol...
THAT'S IT....I'M WARNING YA
Bugs... you look so... frustrated.... hahahahaha...
Cheers....
and you wonder why you got spanked.....man i tell ya sally you really gotta get that darn sand outta your vagina!WELL YES SIR!!!
Frigging
Oh did you have something to add or were you just policing the thread?
This is the big boys end of the pool... Be careful
moooooooooooooooooooooo
damn stink....buzzkill much???? jeez we were attempting to pretend to be unruly.....now we gotta start all over. ok gypsy we'll take it from the top....sparkafire was just finishing the tea bag manuver right before you gave him a rusty trombone...( you know, where after he rams your bum and pulls out ...you spin round to give the ol' rusty trombone a toot.)....ok , everybody ready ...and....action!
how'd i do?
Styl!st07
Well-Known Member
Hey bugs try this stuff, its works for me and i have no leaks anywhere not even a drop. This stripping is purdy expensive but its the only one that works, i have tried them all.
Make sure u get the one for Large Gaps. The silicone stuff works great too for those lil holes on the handles and cords. Keep us posted....
Back to work for me
- Styl!st
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Return of the Spork
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That's almost the same stuff I used. It didn't really need it to start with, however when i would open it there would be water dripping on the outside, this limits it a bit.
I don't expect any issues with these clones, still look good but no roots yet. It has been a bit colder than usual though so I threw my heatpad under the water to try to get it a bit warmer.
Also even though ppl said to do 24/7, I am working it down to more and more dry time. I am at like 15/30 atm, no signs of wilting during the dry time. It may be making this take longer but it made sense to me that if the plant isn't getting stressed by the dry time, it would give more incentive to grow roots, no?
Well regardless they look good. My mothers are bout ready to give another batch of clones already though...haha. Maybe the dispensiary needs a bunch.
I don't expect any issues with these clones, still look good but no roots yet. It has been a bit colder than usual though so I threw my heatpad under the water to try to get it a bit warmer.
Also even though ppl said to do 24/7, I am working it down to more and more dry time. I am at like 15/30 atm, no signs of wilting during the dry time. It may be making this take longer but it made sense to me that if the plant isn't getting stressed by the dry time, it would give more incentive to grow roots, no?
Well regardless they look good. My mothers are bout ready to give another batch of clones already though...haha. Maybe the dispensiary needs a bunch.
14pimp
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Hey guys i have a question for ya. i bought one of those botanicare daisy cloners and the mister that it comes with doesnt really spray a mist. It just sprays droplets of water all over.
Is that how all of the aeroclones work? Just wondering it seems like if it was truly a mist coming out that it would work better? Any input?
Is that how all of the aeroclones work? Just wondering it seems like if it was truly a mist coming out that it would work better? Any input?
grandpabear3
New Member
hey man i run mine 15 on and 30 off and thatsgiving me my best sesults so far but i currently still suck a bit at keeping rooting times down. i have a heat pad under it also and an aqarium heater for a 15 gallon tank thats set to 78 degrees for when it gets cold. i am going to get the recycle timer so i can go 1 min on 5 min off then it'll be perfect i think. i'll keep ya posted.
The Martian
Active Member
Hi All.
I built myself a new cloner/prop a while ago, with an ultrasonic mister/fogger, had some probs with seeds in it, but I reckon I got it licked now.
OK I have two, a small one, about 15 litres, with a lid holding 24 2 inch baskets, and a larger one, about 35 40 litres, with a lid holding 40 two inch baskets, that I havent got round to trying yet, I will either throw the fogger into that, get another fogger, or depending on success, or rather lack of it, I will stick some pipes onto a pump I have and spray them instead, I already have a doz of the fine yellow misters on hand, just a bit short on pipe.
I've found that the mist comes up through the baskets of perlite/vermiculite slightly, and over a 10 14 day period nute salts collects in the media, overfeeding/poisoning the new plants, (I also found feeding almost from the off is best, but very weak, at around 0.4 -0.5).
I've found the best way round this is to severely mist the fuck out of em with a pressure mister, well mainly the media, for around 20 young plants I use at least 1 1/2 litres of just water PHed to 5.8, to wash the media out thoroughly, check the solution after obviously, to make sure the CF/EC hasn't risen too much, I usually find its still OK.
Anyway, I've also now bunged some cuttings in too, so well see how they go with true mist as opposed to droplets, they have only been in since 3 bells, Wed morn, so its only been 59 hours.
Must say was dissapionted, got serious wilting, had to put a prop cover on.
I've heard reports from most guys with droplet aero box's that they get NO wilting at all, with no cover.
Anyway they seem OK nowwith cover still on, gonna try it off later on and see if they still wilt. All temps are good, (thats one advantage of an ultrasonic fogger, they warm it up slightly), running at 22 24 deg C, a few airstones in there for extra oxy.
Under a 200 watt veg Enviro flouro, 15 18 inches away, 19 hours on.
OH yeh, I used clonex too, on the cuttings, and they are not in any media, they are supported in home made neoprene rings in empty 2 inch baskets.
SO going off everything I've done, and read, conditions are pretty much optimal for striking cuts, Well see how they go.
Any thoughts, comments, rebuffs, or even jokes are welcomed!!!!!!!
Toodle Ooo
I built myself a new cloner/prop a while ago, with an ultrasonic mister/fogger, had some probs with seeds in it, but I reckon I got it licked now.
OK I have two, a small one, about 15 litres, with a lid holding 24 2 inch baskets, and a larger one, about 35 40 litres, with a lid holding 40 two inch baskets, that I havent got round to trying yet, I will either throw the fogger into that, get another fogger, or depending on success, or rather lack of it, I will stick some pipes onto a pump I have and spray them instead, I already have a doz of the fine yellow misters on hand, just a bit short on pipe.
I've found that the mist comes up through the baskets of perlite/vermiculite slightly, and over a 10 14 day period nute salts collects in the media, overfeeding/poisoning the new plants, (I also found feeding almost from the off is best, but very weak, at around 0.4 -0.5).
I've found the best way round this is to severely mist the fuck out of em with a pressure mister, well mainly the media, for around 20 young plants I use at least 1 1/2 litres of just water PHed to 5.8, to wash the media out thoroughly, check the solution after obviously, to make sure the CF/EC hasn't risen too much, I usually find its still OK.
Anyway, I've also now bunged some cuttings in too, so well see how they go with true mist as opposed to droplets, they have only been in since 3 bells, Wed morn, so its only been 59 hours.
Must say was dissapionted, got serious wilting, had to put a prop cover on.
I've heard reports from most guys with droplet aero box's that they get NO wilting at all, with no cover.
Anyway they seem OK nowwith cover still on, gonna try it off later on and see if they still wilt. All temps are good, (thats one advantage of an ultrasonic fogger, they warm it up slightly), running at 22 24 deg C, a few airstones in there for extra oxy.
Under a 200 watt veg Enviro flouro, 15 18 inches away, 19 hours on.
OH yeh, I used clonex too, on the cuttings, and they are not in any media, they are supported in home made neoprene rings in empty 2 inch baskets.
SO going off everything I've done, and read, conditions are pretty much optimal for striking cuts, Well see how they go.
Any thoughts, comments, rebuffs, or even jokes are welcomed!!!!!!!
Toodle Ooo
grandpabear3
New Member
jokes, we got!
Return of the Spork
Well-Known Member
Same here Styl,
They all look fine except for a smaller one that still looks good but a little affected. No roots below though. I may or may not change the water but if I don't I will at least ass some h2o2. I will be gone for the weekend so I expect roots when I return, however I was hoping to get a couple of early starters into some RW cubes or something, might miss my window now.
And yes, no real sign of wilting without a cover. I am not sitting in any media though, just stems there for the sprayin. Temps have been a bit lower though so I am being patient.
They all look fine except for a smaller one that still looks good but a little affected. No roots below though. I may or may not change the water but if I don't I will at least ass some h2o2. I will be gone for the weekend so I expect roots when I return, however I was hoping to get a couple of early starters into some RW cubes or something, might miss my window now.
And yes, no real sign of wilting without a cover. I am not sitting in any media though, just stems there for the sprayin. Temps have been a bit lower though so I am being patient.
sparkafire
Well-Known Member
6 days and still no roots
I still have the same water since saturdat, should i change it?
Every clone still very perky and even a lil new growth
- Styl!st out
RELAX Your name is not BUGS so you will be fine you should start to see little white bumps before roots.
You will be fine.
The Martian
Active Member
Hi Folks,
It'll be fine, just give it a splash of Hydrogen Peroxide as you say, that'll kill any badness, do you have an airstone in it???
What are your solution temps???? they reckon temps are VERY important to speed of rooting, I've read 68 70 deg is optimal for DO content, and slightly higher, 75 78 for fast rooting.
So I'm going for 77 78 initially, then as soon as I have more than a couple roots, I'll drop it back to 70ish. Just so happens that the fogger/mister warms the solution slightly, so as I drop the duty cycle of misting, the temp comes down too, I also have it sat in a bigger tub on bricks with extra water in, this buffers my temps, and keeps them just right.
Air temp is around 72 - 79 deg F.
I'll keep ya posted, ass soon as I see knobbles, or roots, I'll post some piccies.
they've only been in 65 hours, tommorrow affy it'll be 3 1/2 days, and I've read reports of knobbles after 3 days, (dja think they're exhagerating, or what???), I'll have a squint anyway EH?
Toodle Pip.
anhedonia
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Will he white slime that seems to grow in my aero cloner cause cuttings not to root? Im changing and disinfecting my cloner every other day so I can have a clean res until I get my bottle of hygrozyme. Im using bleach, dish detergent, to clean the res and the pump. I dont see any slime on the stems or the net pots but that doesnt mean its not there. Should I clean them somehow? Acctually Im pretty sure the white shit will kill your clones.
LoudBlunts
Well-Known Member
clones like a bit of a dry period.... the dry period exploits the clones and encourages root growth.
you will want to run the pump for 15 on and 30 off.... mileage may vary so you need to experiment to see what runs best.
optimal (required) temps in hydro & aero res are to be @ 65-68F. 70F is doable but anything higher and you run the risk of root rot.
they say you can run @ 70-73F which is optimal for rooting, but you MUST change your res every other 3-5 days.
slow rooting clones in hydro come from heated nute soups or conditions too wet (regardless of aeration)
you also dont wanna give it any nutes.... but you can give them some superthrive and a tad bit of rooting element nutes....but go light...very lite!
hope this helps.
you will want to run the pump for 15 on and 30 off.... mileage may vary so you need to experiment to see what runs best.
optimal (required) temps in hydro & aero res are to be @ 65-68F. 70F is doable but anything higher and you run the risk of root rot.
they say you can run @ 70-73F which is optimal for rooting, but you MUST change your res every other 3-5 days.
slow rooting clones in hydro come from heated nute soups or conditions too wet (regardless of aeration)
you also dont wanna give it any nutes.... but you can give them some superthrive and a tad bit of rooting element nutes....but go light...very lite!
hope this helps.
sparkafire
Well-Known Member
NOOOOOOOOOO !!!! No bleach the residue will kill your clones. I know this how you ask???
I have a secret that i use and i have done 2 sets of clones with no water changes so that's 5 weeks and not a nasty slick spot anywhere.
Its called genesis microbe tonic.
Link
Call them up