Advice Please: Getting Nervous

Sleepy79

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the main problem(s) is/were the cool temps and my crappy soil I started with. Also, the T-5s are slow, I've learned that; especially when I was vegging during a time that nighttime temps got down into the 50's when the light went off.
I have a feeling that was your biggest problem. I have a heater set to 77 all the time, in my veg room, even with a 18/6 light cycle. Also i had a warm mist vaporizer set for 15min every 2hours (I recently stopped using it)
I started a couple femmed seeds same time as you and I am almost 4.5 weeks into flower and have rooted clones from those same plants.

I have been looking really hard for pre-flowers and can't see any either male or female at this point. We'll see in about seven days
WSF:peace:
Still amazed that there is nothing showing yet. You should be able to see somthing within 1-1.5 months veggin with fluro's. Hopefully this is not a bad sign. The first 3 sprouts i had were male, that is why i went with fems.
I will be checking your updates, see how your flowering goes.
 

Woodstockfan

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Still amazed that there is nothing showing yet. You should be able to see somthing within 1-1.5 months veggin with fluro's. Hopefully this is not a bad sign. The first 3 sprouts i had were male, that is why i went with fems.
I will be checking your updates, see how your flowering goes.
Let me qualify my remarks by reminding everyone this is my first grow; I'm a newbie.

It's been two full days flower, and (if I know what I'm looking at, and I think I do) I declare five of my six are looking definitely like girls. I am seeing fine white hairs, some in pairs, on five of the plants. Some of these hairs are curly kinda like a pubic hair; and at this stage really fine. One plant has not convinced me for sure yet what it is, and that one could be male, but I don't see ball sacks yet ........ and I could get hermies, of course. But I think I am definitely seeing pistils.

Will keep you all posted. This is all such a rush ............. almost as good as sex!!

WSF:peace:
 

Sleepy79

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I might have a month more experience than you, hopefully you didn't take my comments as negative criticism.

Anymore info on the cloner? Water temp too high, any thoughts of adding peroxide?
 

Woodstockfan

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I might have a month more experience than you, hopefully you didn't take my comments as negative criticism.

Anymore info on the cloner? Water temp too high, any thoughts of adding peroxide?
Hey Sleepy, no prob here man. Nothing you said was negative, peace. This is quite a learning experience. I don't mind the learning if/when things are at least progressing. Now they are.

No, I just meant that incredibly (good luck) it's looking like of my six plants I've got a "mother load." Just good luck, that's all.

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions. I agree with you that the soil and low temps were my main problems.

As for my cloning problem, I haven't tried to clone again yet. I think next time (when I move my other four feminized babies into the flowering room) I will take clones and try both the machine and rockwool, and see what I can learn from it. My problem was all but one of my clones getting that brown scum on the stem and then the stem getting "mushy" and rotting. Some kind on fungus. I'll add peroxide to the water next time, too, but the old style rockwell/humidity dome will by my backup at any rate. Hope I haven't wasted my money on that ezyclone device.

Have you got a grow journal for yours? Gimmie a link if you do. I'd like to subscribe.

WSF:peace:
 

ledgrowing

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ez cloner works great ph water to 5.5 and keep tempd a bove 65 but below 80 75f being ideal add a air stone and pump to the rez u will have roots in a week give or take
 

SeniorRaincloud

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its the genetic coding on the seed dude! whatever rate it says its going to be its going to happen! but remember marijuana is a weed and can grow on almost anything with little to no care!
 

glyphen

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First impression is that yes it is in fact a boy. I would wait a few days to know for sure though.

It will be VERY obvious that those are ball sacks. They wont open for a while, so dont worry about ruining your sensimilla.

By Monday there will be very clear signs whether or not those are sacks of pollen, as they will be much larger and plenty more of them should show up by then.


-G
 

tyke1973

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If a plant is not showing any growth then there normaly is a underlineing problem.Be it ph or the plant's may just want more feed.I would also get hold of a hps light there is not much to be gained from useing lights with very little luman out put.If you was to put them under a 250 or even better a 600 there would be a big improvement.I am not saying that the lighting that you are useing has not got it's part o play in growing.T5 or cfl's can be great for cloneing but i have found that after a while even clones want that bit extra light to stop them becomeing leggy.I would check the root mass it may be root bound premature if the plants have been over watered.Or they may just need flushing with water ph'ed at 6.0/6.5.If the plant's are all differant size's try putting the smaller one's to the centre of the lighting so they recive more.Or super crop them this will let the others catch up and will do the plants no harm if done right.......................tyke........................
 

Woodstockfan

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Today is day 8 of flowering and things are going real good. I have killed the one male, and that leaves five females! They are growing pistils and getting real hairy.

This is really good beginner's luck to have five-out-of-six be girls from non-feminized seeds. I should end up with a good harvest if bugs or disease don't derail me.

The plants grew on average 7 inches in the first week of flowering. They are about 26 inches tall as of today. They are growing fast. Lots of tops.

I will take pictures in a few days and show all of you guys.

WSF:peace:
 

Woodstockfan

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glyphen

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Getting error msg's when trying to PM you again, so here it is. I hope you dont mind it on here as i felt it was more urgent to get you the msg.


No offense taken whats so ever, none at all. I respect debate and conclusion as a better form of communication then pessimism replacing the lack of progress.

I am also most concerned with the curling along the length of the leaf. That is a sign of too much N, but is also related to a few other things that could be going on. However you have no other signs of N issues on the rest of your ladies so Im not really thinking thats whats going on, if anything the look like they need some.

Especially knowing what you've fead, and the frequency. Youve been meticulous about it, thats a good thing and helps with troubleshooting. Im going to read up on this I just dont have my resources with me as Im not home right now. Is the couple yellow leaves on the same plant as the curling? The brown raises an eyebrow, as that could imply an issue with the micro-nutes. There just so damn many that ways this stuff goes I dont want to imply one thing and it turn out to be another. Thats the only reason I would saying stick with the H2O. It could be as simple as they might have gotten too close to the light.

The Claw is usually caused by lack of dehydrated Oxygen in the soil, and an abundance of N in the soil. I dont really think thats exactly whats going on. It doesnt seem to be wide spread on the ladies, just a random leaf or two. If it is the claw though feeding them will only make it worse, again why I suggested sticking to H2O until I can read up on it. I will make this priority to get back to you this evening. If she has a sativa attitude, it would be much more acceptable to look the way it is, but as I remember it we thought these where indica strains correct? It could be something as simple as they need a little Cal/Mag.

Im gonna check it out and Ill get back to you.

The buds do indeed look nice though my friend. No obvious signs of any issues there at all! On the plus side they should be just about done stretching, and now they will start bushing out again. I do see in your future the need for some stakes, I really do. They are probably going to want to lean to the side in a month or so, and staking/training them is in your best interests to keep everything kosher as well as opening up the canopy a little for the lower buds to get light too. You dont want to find out they could'nt support themselves by finding a stem snapped in half, leaning to the side-thats the worst feeling ever.

With the Nutes in mind, I really dont think its too much N either, maybe just a lack of a vital micro nute or two. The stems look good, so theres no necrosis setting in-another indication its not the claw : )

It seems like you have been very meticulous in your watering, so lets not think thats the issue. I believe you have an auto setup, dialed in to your specifications you shouldnt have an issue at all. Im actually jealous! I water by hand.

I would imagine that the yellow was caused by the triathalon they just endured, and should subside soon. The leaf curling, well Ill get back to you on that. Maybe someone will chime in on your post and make a comment, but anything they say I would double check before you act on it.

Did they get particularly close to the lights ever? If so that could be it. With all the streching going on lets not rule out the obvious. Curling can come from the light, and those 600w's can cause curling without yellowing. Do you have any curling at all on the bottom half? How many leaves would you say are showing this?

My gut says you are not in a crisis as well, and I really hope I didnt come across that way in my previous msg. I think you are doing great, and you are going to have an impressive harvest for a first timer- I genuinely believe that. I bet some others will chime in and confirm that you are doing amazing the first time through.

Im sure you've got a few journals to compare to that you've read. Pat yoursef on the back at this point, take a breather and be proud. You are doing way better then I did my first time through.

Good day to you friend,

I will be in touch

-G
 

glyphen

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Pic 7 is the only one I really see the signs of curling in, just so its out there.

I do see signs of needing N in the lower leaves, but generally speaking I think all of your "canopy" is looking pretty sharp my friend.

Again, I will be in touch this evening.

Good day friend

-G


On a side note, its pretty amazing that we made this outa what was on Page 2 isnt it?
 
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