Ace Genetics Thread

[OGEvilgenius]

I don't know about their Malawai line, but I've heard of 20wk + plants that grow to be monsters (Malawai, but IDK if from the same stock and I know that Ace does do some work trying to stabilize for certain things). I think you'll have fun with that one

 

[TonightYou]

I'm thinking I'll throw them into flower rather quickly then. I'd hate to have a 12 inch plant become some monster that's growing into the lights and all over the place. If the stretch is pretty manageable, then I can veg em out. Love to hear any experience with it. I don't mind a long flower as I rock the perpetual, granted anything over 16 weeks would drive me nuts. The waiting is the hardest part

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I think I'd expect minimum 400% stretch... just my opinion.

 

[kindnug]

Ace is supposed to have an indoor friendly Malawi(compared to other breeder's versions)
12-14 weeks would be a fast finish, 16-20+ weeks is possible for Malawi.

LST/Scrog to control/manipulate the stretch

 

[TonightYou]

Ace is supposed to have an indoor friendly Malawi(compared to other breeder's versions)
12-14 weeks would be a fast finish, 16-20+ weeks is possible for Malawi.

LST/Scrog to control/manipulate the stretch

Found an old journal on Malawi, but it was before apparently they did some rework on the strain. Seems like it shouldn't be too bad based on the older version finishing up in 13 weeks mostly. I think I'll expect 100 day flower time to be honest, putting them in flower at first true set of leaves plus a lower pair so 4 inches or so. I'll do LST and tie the girls up.

 

[TonightYou]

Just an update: Ace came through in my replacements. Honestly some great customer service and damn quick as well as discrete on sending me 11 Malawi.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Found an old journal on Malawi, but it was before apparently they did some rework on the strain. Seems like it shouldn't be too bad based on the older version finishing up in 13 weeks mostly. I think I'll expect 100 day flower time to be honest, putting them in flower at first true set of leaves plus a lower pair so 4 inches or so. I'll do LST and tie the girls up.

The Purple Haze x Thai I just picked up from Ace is supposed to be 16-20 weeks.

I've dealt with a couple 100'ish day strains before, but nothing near 20 weeks. I'm going to flower a couple indoors in 7 gallon containers just for shits

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I actually bought some 15 gallon containers.... tryin to get that no till going properly. Not hoping for lb+ monsters from them, just wanna keep my soil happy/healthy and not have to water as much.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I actually bought some 15 gallon containers.... tryin to get that no till going properly. Not hoping for lb+ monsters from them, just wanna keep my soil happy/healthy and not have to water as much.

I'd love to move up a couple bucket sizes but my veg room just isn't set up for it.

 

[OGEvilgenius]

I'm fortunate in that my new location allows to throw girls outdoors if necessary.

 

[TonightYou]

Heads up, Beansman has a new promo for Ace, ThaiXPurple Haze.

Goddamn this bean addiction! I'm resisting for now...

 

[TonightYou]

So time foe an update. Just snapped some quick pictures of vegging plants. Man, I'm not use to slow starters! Kinda been spoiled! Bangi Haze is the quickest moving out the gate, PCK was super slow. Looks like I have two Bangi Haze, two PCK, and a single China Yunnan.

Will be transplanting soon as it seems like the root balls are getting to the point I like, nice and strong. The lone China Yunnan I really hope to be a female. Was the only one from 7 to pop and become a plant. She was kind of a runt, I didn't think she'd make it.

So from left to right, PCK, BH, and lone China in the front.

 

[TonightYou]

Two strong looking Malawi beans have been started. Will wait for true leaves and put them straight into flower.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Heads up, Beansman has a new promo for Ace, ThaiXPurple Haze.

Goddamn this bean addiction! I'm resisting for now...

That's the one I got.

16-20 weeks flower.

 

[TonightYou]

That's the one I got.

16-20 weeks flower.

Dude! You can have Christmas buds if you start them now!

I'm kinda interested in sativas. I think that the availability in the market place is pretty lacking. Plus it seems like everything I come across is a mutt, not that I'm complaing, amazing stuff. I'd simply like to see the base of these building block plants. I don't really know many people that grow either straight sativas, or indica plants.

I was smoking up some of my Goji a while back with another grower. When I mentioned she is about 11 weeks or so, the response was a long the lines of "I can't imagine waiting that long, 9 weeks is as long as I'll go". To be honest, I'm shocked by this sentiment. A grower spends about a month minimum from beans, maybe more to veg a plant to a desired size (2 months perhaps?). Next a grower spends several weeks flowering the plants out. Add in a proper dry and a cure, and over all a single plant takes 4 months at a minimum, more like 5 from beans. What is a couple more weeks?

ETA I know that some people's setups it may be difficult to grow long flowering plants. So I do understand.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Dude! You can have Christmas buds if you start them now!

I'm kinda interested in sativas. I think that the availability in the market place is pretty lacking. Plus it seems like everything I come across is a mutt, not that I'm complaing, amazing stuff. I'd simply like to see the base of these building block plants. I don't really know many people that grow either straight sativas, or indica plants.

I was smoking up some of my Goji a while back with another grower. When I mentioned she is about 11 weeks or so, the response was a long the lines of "I can't imagine waiting that long, 9 weeks is as long as I'll go". To be honest, I'm shocked by this sentiment. A grower spends about a month minimum from beans, maybe more to veg a plant to a desired size (2 months perhaps?). Next a grower spends several weeks flowering the plants out. Add in a proper dry and a cure, and over all a single plant takes 4 months at a minimum, more like 5 from beans. What is a couple more weeks?

ETA I know that some people's setups it may be difficult to grow long flowering plants. So I do understand.

Word. The 8-9 week hybrids are pretty cookie-cutter.

I've grown a few straight sativas. The longer flowering time isn't a big deal, but they are a little trickier to grow IMO. The stretch can be difficult to handle depending on the set up, and the nutrient requirements differ quite a bit from hybrids and Indicas. Also bag appeal is important to some folks, so for that reason alone they avoid them. I've had a couple limp to the finish line looking pretty rough, but the buzz is almost always worth it.

 

[TonightYou]

Word. The 8-9 week hybrids are pretty cookie-cutter.

I've grown a few straight sativas. The longer flowering time isn't a big deal, but they are a little trickier to grow IMO. The stretch can be difficult to handle depending on the set up, and the nutrient requirements differ quite a bit from hybrids and Indicas. Also bag appeal is important to some folks, so for that reason alone they avoid them. I've had a couple limp to the finish line looking pretty rough, but the buzz is almost always worth it.

Which ones have you grown?
The tips I've read for growing near pure sativa are:

1. Lower nutrient needs, don't have hot soil and don't fertilize at rates one may use on the typical hybrids.
2. Check the plant regularly for intersex traits. I'm not a fan of things that hermi but I'm willing to pick a few manners off in this instance.
3. Make sure you have proper root space. Sativa plants like their root space.
4. Be careful with nitrogen usage in late flower.
5. Don't over water
6. Be prepared for vine like plants and having to keep them under control.

Have any tips to add?

 

[st0wandgrow]

Which ones have you grown?
The tips I've read for growing near pure sativa are:

1. Lower nutrient needs, don't have hot soil and don't fertilize at rates one may use on the typical hybrids.
2. Check the plant regularly for intersex traits. I'm not a fan of things that hermi but I'm willing to pick a few manners off in this instance.
3. Make sure you have proper root space. Sativa plants like their root space.
4. Be careful with nitrogen usage in late flower.
5. Don't over water
6. Be prepared for vine like plants and having to keep them under control.

Have any tips to add?

Mr Nice Mango Haze that finishedup in about 90 days, and Serious Seeds Kali Mist that finished around 100 days.

Those tips you posted I'd say are pretty solid advice. Obviously you want to veg them a bit less anticipating more stretch once the lights go 12/12. I find tomato cages useful to tuck/train/tie down with. I've heard others talk about a different light schedule for them (11/13), but I've never messed with it..... plus I have too many others strains in the same room that would probably get stressed if I started messing with that.

 

[Amos Otis]

Word. The 8-9 week hybrids are pretty cookie-cutter.
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I haven't found that true at all, but then I've never ran or knowingly smoked any 16+weekers. In the cupboard alone are several 8-9 weekers that range from cheese to pineapple to kushy to grape to pine to lime to champaigne etc, and all have different effects and strengths etc.

I've just finished a period running strains that go 10+ weeks, and TY mentions one reason I'm not partial to them. But the biggest reason, is I expected significantly better smoke if they got significantly more time - 2-4 weeks longer. That simply hasn't been the case. One - the berry Goji - is exceptional, certainly up their with the best from this quadrant. But the rest varied from awful [1], to very good, but no moreso than many strains that finished weeks sooner.

I'll run Gojis again, but anything else that requires more than 9 weeks I can't see in the future. I expect I can grab a bud of these Christmas sativas for a few Fat Cindys at some point.

 

[st0wandgrow]

I haven't found that true at all, but then I've never ran or knowingly smoked any 16+weekers. In the cupboard alone are several 8-9 weekers that range from cheese to pineapple to kushy to grape to pine to lime to champaigne etc, and all have different effects and strengths etc.

I've just finished a period running strains that go 10+ weeks, and TY mentions one reason I'm not partial to them. But the biggest reason, is I expected significantly better smoke if they got significantly more time - 2-4 weeks longer. That simply hasn't been the case. One - the berry Goji - is exceptional, certainly up their with the best from this quadrant. But the rest varied from awful [1], to very good, but no moreso than many strains that finished weeks sooner.

I'll run Gojis again, but anything else that requires more than 9 weeks I can't see in the future. I expect I can grab a bud of these Christmas sativas for a few Fat Cindys at some point.

What I meant by cookie cutter is effect. I agree with you that the tastes and smells vary a great deal, but the effect is substantially similar with most. Some variation, some being better than others, but not a huge divide imo. A long flowering sativa is just an all otgether different buzz.

The exception to that could be this C-99 from FS. Really looking forward to seeing what that's all about.......