lakesidegrower
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Ohhhh damn! Welcome to full control haha
AC Infinity Controller 67 users?
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LeastExpectedGrower
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Already up and running. I'll post some results tomorrow. So far, I like it...far better than the standard T6.
Nizza
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Beware using this type of controller without co2 monitoring. It is a fantastic controller but If for some reason things are too perfect and the fan is running too low you may not be getting optimal co2 readings. I found this out after using my pulse pro meter and then opted to just keep the fans from my tents at higher constant speeds and then use my house to control humidity and temperature like a "lung room"
lakesidegrower
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This is 100% true and I can attest to it. Absolutely needs to be put out there, it easily gets you away from a constantly running dan where the air is always refreshed. I only made that connection when I set up my CO2 controller and started tracking the CO2 levels in the room without enriching - I was shocked… I thought the sensor was broken, more often than not I would come into the grow room and see a reading of 4 ppm, I couldn’t believe it. The fan just didn’t need to be running very often in my space to refresh the air in the room, it really felt like it was being refreshed when I was in there with the fan running but the data told a different story.
this is what led me to CO2, but that’s also because I draw from exterior air that is frozen half of the year. If you aren’t dealing with that, simply set the controller to tell the fan to always run at a min speed - then if you set an automation on top of that, it will ramp up to your set speed when one of the limits you set is triggered
lakesidegrower
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Started running a ‘cool down’ cycle today - will probably take a couple days to get perfectly dialed in. I had tried incorporating it before but didn’t like the outcome, but I realized today that I could just set the ‘cool down’ automation without a high temp limit and simply set a high humidity trigger so it doesn’t get to damp during that time.
im trying a 1-1/2hr cool down before my night cycle kicks in, hopefully it lets the temps drop slowly on their own to around where I had my night cycle temp set
These are my current automations:
im trying a 1-1/2hr cool down before my night cycle kicks in, hopefully it lets the temps drop slowly on their own to around where I had my night cycle temp set
These are my current automations:
LeastExpectedGrower
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Do you get a temp drop by doing that? If 1.5 hours before lights out I did that in my tent it would raise the temps by at least a few degrees.
The big difference for me on my first 'night run' was that with the fan ratcheting down to my base setting (2), I didn't set my humidity trigger low enough (in the past even with a steady fan it was only hitting ~60% and last night we ended up at 68%. So I've lowered that trigger today. And set a transition for high humidity at 2% intervals.
During the day, you have your high set at 87f are you not using the transitions on temperature? That was much of what I fussed with last night. My base fan setting is 2, my top setting right now is 6 and really ideally it would max out around 83. So I have my trigger set at 2f degrees and down at 77f. That seems to be keeping my room with lights on riding in the 81-83f range. At 81f the fan is hitting 5 and at 80f it's at 4. I may let the top speed eventually be a bit higher like 7 or 8 but that wouldn't change that it likes to sit in the same zone and would just help deal with incidental increases due to our boiler kicking on and off in the room.
lakesidegrower
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I think I follow you there - post a pic of ur automations? sometimes this shit is hard to follow/explain lol
My temps dropped from 85 (temp when lights turned off) to 76 over about 80 mins, I think I’m good with that. I only had a high humidity trigger set on my ‘cool down’ for fan to come on at 65%, so no doubt at that setting it was triggering the fan during the cool down a fair bit. I don’t think you can really get away with not venting after lights out - the humidity just spikes, as most of us know, so you gotta clear it.
LeastExpectedGrower
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Right now I don't have any automations running, Since I'm looking to keep a general consistency I need to just see how it reacts across a couple days.
What I can tell you:
-The fans are set not to go off. Their lowest run-level is set to 2. So in a rest state, I've got airflow. Both for the plants sake and for mine, since if the fans stop, Mrs. LEG complains that there's a skunk bomb in the house.
-I have the 'on' setting for the fan at 6 (though I might bump this up, right now it's not being a problem).
-My 'goal' temperature range is 81-83. My humidity target isn't so tight. I don't really want it to hit the 60's and I don't want it below about 40%.
-I have set up triggers for high temp, and high humidity and I have a 'safety' trigger for low temp set at 60 (though this would only ever hit if the backdraft damper on the exhaust fan fails during the winter and there was no fan pressure out).
-My triggers are set at 77f for the high temp and 56% for the high humidity.
-I have transitions set for both the high temp trigger and the high humidity trigger. Temp= 2f & RH=2%
Sooo...with my base fan(s) speed of 2 when I hit:
77-79 the fan goes to 3
80-81 it hits 4
82-83 it's at 5
84-85 it hits 6
So with lights on and the ambient temps, the tent is riding at 81-82 with the fan cycling between 4-5. I didn't have my humidity trigger set well last night because I didn't expect the rise to be quite as extreme (up to 6
, so I just reset the RH upper trigger to 56% with 2% increments, similar to the above. Thinking about it, I really to try to do a cool down before lights out, I'd set an timed automation and change the temp transitions above...I'd have a higher top fan speed and I'd do something like:
75-76 the fan goes to 5
77-78 it hits 6
79-80 it's at 7
81-82 it hits 8
That would move more air and it would have less time to heat the tent.
LeastExpectedGrower
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I have a small tent (33x60x80) running a 6" exhaust and a 6" intake, both are 402CFM)...even at my low fan setting (set at 2 out of 10) there's air exchange happening. Intake is inside, exhaust is outside. Except at night when the lights go out and temps drop my fans are riding in the middle of their range and pushing too hard lessens the effectiveness of the carbon filter.
lakesidegrower
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I’m missing the boat on these transitions here… how are you programming that?Right now I don't have any automations running, Since I'm looking to keep a general consistency I need to just see how it reacts across a couple days.
What I can tell you:
-The fans are set not to go off. Their lowest run-level is set to 2. So in a rest state, I've got airflow. Both for the plants sake and for mine, since if the fans stop, Mrs. LEG complains that there's a skunk bomb in the house.
-I have the 'on' setting for the fan at 6 (though I might bump this up, right now it's not being a problem).
-My 'goal' temperature range is 81-83. My humidity target isn't so tight. I don't really want it to hit the 60's and I don't want it below about 40%.
-I have set up triggers for high temp, and high humidity and I have a 'safety' trigger for low temp set at 60 (though this would only ever hit if the backdraft damper on the exhaust fan fails during the winter and there was no fan pressure out).
-My triggers are set at 77f for the high temp and 56% for the high humidity.
-I have transitions set for both the high temp trigger and the high humidity trigger. Temp= 2f & RH=2%
Sooo...with my base fan(s) speed of 2 when I hit:
77-79 the fan goes to 3
80-81 it hits 4
82-83 it's at 5
84-85 it hits 6
So with lights on and the ambient temps, the tent is riding at 81-82 with the fan cycling between 4-5. I didn't have my humidity trigger set well last night because I didn't expect the rise to be quite as extreme (up to 6
Thinking about it, I really to try to do a cool down before lights out, I'd set an timed automation and change the temp transitions above...I'd have a higher top fan speed and I'd do something like:
75-76 the fan goes to 5
77-78 it hits 6
79-80 it's at 7
81-82 it hits 8
That would move more air and it would have less time to heat the tent.
LeastExpectedGrower
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When you're looking at the panel with the dial that looks suspiciously infringy on a nest thermometer, click the gear icon in the upper right corner.
From there you'll see sliders for Transition Temperature and Transition Humidity.
Adjust the sliders up according to how you'd like to transition. For instance one you hit your trigger temp or humidity (upper triggers), for every additional two degrees the fan will raise one more notch faster.
So in my case, I don't really want to exceed about 84 or so, I have my trigger set lower so the fan starts ratcheting up in the high 70's and hits a balance point at 80 or 81 or so. If things get hot, it'll keep bumping up the fans with the rise in temperatures until it hits your max fan speed.
Same on the bottom end in reverse...so if you have a low trigger for temperature, for example, it will go from your base fan speed and ratchet up a notch for each however many degrees it goes below your trigger.
Tittymctatty
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I run it sealed during the day now just
Tittymctatty
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I'm sealed during the day then exhaust all night when co2 is off as long as humidity is under control ur good
lakesidegrower
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Goal is to run fully sealed during the day, working on getting there
LeastExpectedGrower
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Really liking this stability. I did bump up the base fan level to 3, then have the top set at 7, and adjusted the transitions so the unit sits in the same zone as when I was doing 2-6 for fan limits. Those 'square waves' are in hour increments. That's because I have two fans, one on each side of the tent and they go on and off on the hour (one on, one off), and one fan may be hitting right where the sensor is hanging and the other may be slightly off from that. Tonight I have the humidity set up to trigger too, so I hope in the morning that big hump that's sitting at 69 and change for RH should be down in the upper 50's.
It should be pretty effective, given last night I'd left the upper limit at 70% by accident and the fans kept it pinned there.
lakesidegrower
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Ri
I wish I had more ‘gentle curves’ lol but I get a spikey chart every time due to oil heater at night a cool air during the day.. I dream about a lung room haha but the controllers keep it within 1.5 degrees on average so I’m super happy with that
Right on - those graphs look great man
I wish I had more ‘gentle curves’ lol but I get a spikey chart every time due to oil heater at night a cool air during the day.. I dream about a lung room haha but the controllers keep it within 1.5 degrees on average so I’m super happy with that
lakesidegrower
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Really nice - seems like people get pretty good results combining inkbirds and ac infinity controllers. The graphs are nice, I dig any/all data I can get my hands on.
m4s73r
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There is about a 2% difference between the AC sensor and Inkbird's
Three Berries
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If you can calibrate the readings it's pretty easy to get a 100% humidity level to test your sensor. Put some salt in a bag and moisten it just short of a slurry. Then seal it up.