A plea to the AZ-MMJ community.

Bill Hayes

Active Member
i like the idea of the males. its a nice option for the local growers
we have males available at request but only once a month ;) we will have Vortex, Plushberry, Dr Grinspoon, Jack the Ripper, Apollo 13-BX, Agent Orange, Chernobyl, Deep Purple, Dairy Queen and a few more less known genetics. We have been known to give these away folks. "Spread the word, and then spread the seed"
 

Bill Hayes

Active Member
I'm sorry for delaying everyone on here that I have said to meet. Ever since Bill scared me with the patient to patient trading I was skeptical and needed to wait for my lawyer to come back into town to make sure everything was kosher. Now that I know I am okay to be doing what I have already done, I will be taking orders. Jjlongo yours should be ready here in a few days...beaver yours too. Swag hit me up later this week or next week...I have a big harvest coming up so I would love to trade meds.

The cuts I can take right now is as follows:

Golden Pineapple
Williams Wonder
La Confidential
Pot of Gold
Kings kush

I have to talk to my buddy to see if I can take some off of his chocolope mother. Here in a few weeks we should have different strains to choose from...Querkle, Pandora's Box, AMS etc...
i have one Kushberry about 8 inches tall in a 1 gallon pot...we are deciding if we want to keep her around, if not that will be one of my teenagers. PM me for more info...this is one of the only weeks I don't have appointments so get at me! I'm free this week!
based on this post alone, I know you. your strain list just gave ya away;)
 

Guino

Member
AZCS is a true Collective where the members have a voice in what we do so expect them to take it to heart when people talk badly about them because to an AZCS member, when your talking smack your talking about ALL of us, not just one of us;) We roll deep like that.
So as a true collective, if someone was to join then they could grow and add their crop to the supply that is available to all members, like a true collective? Or are only a few select members allowed to produce medicine for the other members? If so, what assurances do members have that the growers are not using fertilizers or other additives that are not legally allowed on consumable crops? I see alot of people growing with poisonous cloning compounds, and fertilizers that are only meant for ornamentals, I think those individuals should be hanged if they try to distribute their garbage to other people.

If I or someone else was to join, what sort of transparency would we have to see proof that the collective medicine was actually grown safely?

Not trying to hate on your business, just trying to figure out what's what in AZ. So far as I am aware there aren't any good sources of clones in Flagstaff, besides the sketchy Craigslist postings.
 

Bill Hayes

Active Member
So as a true collective, if someone was to join then they could grow and add their crop to the supply that is available to all members, like a true collective? Or are only a few select members allowed to produce medicine for the other members? If so, what assurances do members have that the growers are not using fertilizers or other additives that are not legally allowed on consumable crops? I see alot of people growing with poisonous cloning compounds, and fertilizers that are only meant for ornamentals, I think those individuals should be hanged if they try to distribute their garbage to other people.

If I or someone else was to join, what sort of transparency would we have to see proof that the collective medicine was actually grown safely?

Not trying to hate on your business, just trying to figure out what's what in AZ. So far as I am aware there aren't any good sources of clones in Flagstaff, besides the sketchy Craigslist postings.

no worries, we'll just request it on the next batch of tests.

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Bird Gymnastics said:
I'm sorry for delaying everyone on here that I have said to meet. Ever since Bill scared me with the patient to patient trading I was skeptical and needed to wait for my lawyer to come back into town to make sure everything was kosher. Now that I know I am okay to be doing what I have already done, I will be taking orders. Jjlongo yours should be ready here in a few days...beaver yours too. Swag hit me up later this week or next week...I have a big harvest coming up so I would love to trade meds.

The cuts I can take right now is as follows:

Golden Pineapple
Williams Wonder
La Confidential
Pot of Gold
Kings kush

I have to talk to my buddy to see if I can take some off of his chocolope mother. Here in a few weeks we should have different strains to choose from...Querkle, Pandora's Box, AMS etc...
i have one Kushberry about 8 inches tall in a 1 gallon pot...we are deciding if we want to keep her around, if not that will be one of my teenagers. PM me for more info...this is one of the only weeks I don't have appointments so get at me! I'm free this week!
based on this post alone, I know you. your strain list just gave ya away;)
Same here. And that Wms Wonder cut came from me as a gift with the understanding that it wouldn't be shared without my consent. I suspect that the "Orange Crush" you have is ae77 Cali-O that was shared with the same conditions.
 

Bird Gymnastics

New Member
Same here. And that Wms Wonder cut came from me as a gift with the understanding that it wouldn't be shared without my consent. I suspect that the "Orange Crush" you have is ae77 Cali-O that was shared with the same conditions.
Well then thank you. The orange crush is not of that cut; IMO, it is better. The original Cali-o is where I believe this came from just a little more grown out to perfection. The person i received the Williams from never advised me not to share, otherwise it would still be an "exclusive" strain. I had to trade some of my elite genetics as well to recieve this cut. So how is your cordelia? ;)
 

MurshDawg

Active Member
Well then thank you. The orange crush is not of that cut; IMO, it is better then the ae77 Cali orange. The person we received the Williams from never advised us not to share, otherwise it would still be an "exclusive" strain. So how is your cordelia? ;)
Not to sound like an ass; however, why is there such a level of exclusivity when it comes to the sharing of genetics? +rep for a decent answer and I do not care how convoluted it is.
 

IVIars

Active Member
Same here. And that Wms Wonder cut came from me as a gift with the understanding that it wouldn't be shared without my consent. I suspect that the "Orange Crush" you have is ae77 Cali-O that was shared with the same conditions.

Get over yourself bud, where's the compassion at?
 
So how is your cordelia? ;)
I'm assuming that you're the one who donated it to AZCS?

And the Wms Wonder isn't an exclusive cut. I've shared it with growers all over N. America. Making a buck is fine, but at the end of the day it's about spreading love more than it is about lining pockets. Now that you have the cut, I hope you'll do the right thing with it and with the rest of your garden.

Get over yourself bud, where's the compassion at?
It's very curious how often some Arizona growers pull the "I'm more compassionate than you" card. If you knew my work, you wouldn't accuse me of lacking compassion. This isn't about strain hoarding. It's about me preferring to not share my gifts with douchebags, if I can help it. I don't get the impression that you are a d-bag, Bird Gymnastics, but I prefer to know a little something about the people who end up with my gifts. It's not a personal law... it's simply a preference and the person I gifted the Wms to knew that, so it's disappointing.
 

PixiDustr

Active Member
Oh god of limited genetics (and i don't mean your strains...) Get over yourself! You want it exclusive? Don't spread it around...it's like a secret...it WILL get out!
 

Stinkbait

Well-Known Member
I'm assuming that you're the one who donated it to AZCS?

And the Wms Wonder isn't an exclusive cut. I've shared it with growers all over N. America. Making a buck is fine, but at the end of the day it's about spreading love more than it is about lining pockets. Now that you have the cut, I hope you'll do the right thing with it and with the rest of your garden.



It's very curious how often some Arizona growers pull the "I'm more compassionate than you" card. If you knew my work, you wouldn't accuse me of lacking compassion. This isn't about strain hoarding. It's about me preferring to not share my gifts with douchebags, if I can help it. I don't get the impression that you are a d-bag, Bird Gymnastics, but I prefer to know a little something about the people who end up with my gifts. It's not a personal law... it's simply a preference and the person I gifted the Wms to knew that, so it's disappointing.
I'm assuming by the way you talk you are Scott from Stone Mountain??? If so kudos to you sir on a fine strain!!!

If not why do you care and feel as though you have any rights over this strain?
 
The person we received the Williams from never advised us not to share, otherwise it would still be an "exclusive" strain.
And my apologies if this is true. What he told me was that he HAD asked you not to share but that you didn't care. You know the truth and I don't.

Oh god of limited genetics (and i don't mean your strains...) Get over yourself!
Why so quick to make an enemy out of someone else? I really don't think I need to repeat myself or clarify what I've already said. The people who get, get it. And good people, when they disagree, are able to do so without being sarcastic or insulting.

You want it exclusive? Don't spread it around...it's like a secret...it WILL get out
Excluding people across the board isn't my intention. I'm more than happy to include good people.
 
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