A note to noob's

mo841 said:

Oh and invest in some good lights! The first run before you start cloning is a lot of time to waste using a couple cfl's. HID lighting can be pretty cheap and is well worth the cost.

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mo841 said:

Im just saying, 2oz for 6 months of patiently waiting kinda blows. I suppose if u didn't smoke and put all the profit into your grow it would be better. then you can progressively grow bigger and better

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Nugachino said:

In saying that. I chose to top my first indoor grow. Instead of just letting it grow normally.

Decided I wanted to boost my first harvest. Don't know if I succeeded. Or just made the plant lower and wider than if it grew normally.

One thing I'd like to add. Is the whole not over doing things. If there's one thing I've learned from this run. Don't water too often or too much. The other is make sure you know the pH going in. Otherwise you'll see funny business from your crop.

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Strocat said:

6 months to grow a plant to harvest?!?!? 90-100 days max .. I recently did a plant that took 97 days seed to harvest and got 88.3 grams dry.

but yeah I feel ya. I really dont smoke much. once a day at night time. a quarter pound a month would be awesome and that would be my end goal. I need more lights and a veg room and flower room though to make that happen.

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Strocat said:

I topped my current grow 4 times for the first time ever and vegged way too long in a 3 gallon container (2 months) the buds are hanging every which way lopsided etc and its gonna be hard to keep branches from breaking till harvest.. each day is a struggle.


I would love to scrog but I water in my bathtub and have to move plants.. one thing ive always wondered.. If you scrog a plant and in flowering she is growing through the screen.. how do you water without getting your floors wet/ruined?

I flush because i use fox farm solubles and use their cha ching up until flush... i can use water or florakleen and when i use florakleen after cha ching i get smoother smoke than with water alone.

with florakleen i can use nutes longer and flush them out faster.. I think atleast.. I done taste tests and the florakleen bud is always better

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Dr. Who said:

Makes NO difference what you feed! Florakleen does not "flush" nutrients from plants. That's not how plant physiology works!

Here, read my package answer to 'flushing" and begin to find truth.....

I got asked about this in a PM by a member after seeing the disaster another thread became. He asked where to find books and papers on "flushing" and said he might try the "fade".

Here's my answer to him......I felt it needs to be seen,,,,,,again!

Your looking for post grad work. You would do better to search papers......The thing is, NOTHING in agriculture gets 'flushed" and that leads to little to no research in the area. You see, the thing is, the whole "idea" of "flushing is nonsense! Plants don't work that way! They do not take up nutrients or salts as most of you think of them! They do not "store" them in the sense you think of them! Not only that, but the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers! NO amount of "flushing" will "exchange" plant "stored" nutrition back "out" of the plant! Scientifically impossible by the way most of you guys understand......Ok, that's my word on "flushing". (No one listens to this in threads if they don't want to hear it or accept it.)

Now then, you propose the "FADE TO FINISH" method. Great idea in theory but, and this IS a BIG BUT! Remember when I said above that "the nutritional "stores" in a plant are not in buds or budding or flowers!" ? This shoots that theory in the ass right away. You see the main amount of stored nutrition is in either the roots and the rest in leaves and some in small amounts in transit in the phloam (the sap that actually moves the "converted" nutrients around the plant)......

Now when you "starve a plant" it will draw from it's self by actually breaking down the needed parts of it's self to do an "emergency" attempt to reproduce! (This can happen in certain plants even in veg! A kind of last ditch effort to continue the species.)

With that in mind you take the fact that the plant is not "moving" nutrients "out" of buds,but into them to speed growth and as fast as it can - "reproduce". This single minded process the plant now puts it's self on causes the plant to stress it's self. This self induced stress can, in many cases if done long enough, lead the plant to go bisexual, and produce "banana's" in a last ditch effort to reproduce and "carry on the line" and produce seeds...

Basically put, In reality you are moving nutrients that you're "attempting" to get rid of,,right to where your trying to remove them from! You are also stressing the plant in the way for "Herming" to actually happen easier!

I and many others that have tried to convey this actual plant science, are called everything you can think of and those 'impossible of understanding these facts", fight so hard against us that many of us have simply chosen to avoid the issue or don't fight to hard.

Anyway, there you are in as short and sweet and as simple/understandable as I can...

The thing is you have to understand Botany and Horticulture (and there are LOTS of subsections to those that are involved here) to truly put together the pieces of the puzzle to get your head wrapped around the idea that flushing and the "fade" don't work for what they are intended or alleged to actually do!

There you go Mods, nice, polite and to the point. (Sorry about the other thread Sunni)

There you go, Now have at it!
I'm stepping back to watch the circus.

Read this too!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/the-truth-about-flushing.409622/

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Lucky Luke said:

Outside I plant Oct/Nov and harvest March/April. Thats 6 months esp if u add in drying and a small cure.


My very first grow was around 50 plants. Learnt allot very fast.

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Strocat said:

Didnt know u were talkung bout outdoor. Go inside and u get 4 crops a year

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Lucky Luke said:

I didnt know this was in the indoor section..

I have grown indoor to. Indoor is fun but outdoor suites me better.

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Nugachino said:

I'm soon to try my first batch of smoke. I won't be flushing. As that is something you do with shite and evidence. Also. I don't use synthetic stuff.

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KryptoBud said:

You know what's funny about flushing is? People are concerned with black ash, taste, and chemicals. " i don't wanna smoke chemicals" so to avoid doing this they flush with what? More chemicals. Flora kleen has 0 ingredients listed on the label, it looks like water, smells like vitamin b. What the label does say is use a milder solution for younger plants. If it's only supposed to "flush" salts and nothing is absorbed into the plant why does the age of the plant matter?

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Strocat said:

never said it was indoor section. did u have a shitty christmas?

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Nugachino said:

I don't see the point in using synthetics. Nature provides all you need.

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Lucky Luke said:

Not at all, but its not hard to work out why he was saying a 6 month turnaround. I just explained a reason why it could be as my outdoor grows are around a bout that.

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