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A Lawyer Defending A 17-Year-Old Black Kid Gets Real About Racial Injustice

potroastV2

potroastV2

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Kasuti said:
To be honest, I don't have to worry about the law because I am a respectable white man in my community, and if u don't make trouble with someone, u get no trouble.
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Ah yes, the naivete of youth!

You'll only learn the hard way.

:mrgreen:
 
DutchKillsRambo

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bearkat42 said:
Show me the good ones. You know the ones that don't stand by and watch the bad ones commit crimes and then falsify records to protect them.
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My mom. She was a Lieutenant in PSD (Professional Standards Division or Internal Affairs as it's also known) for about 11 years till it drove her crazy seeing the disgusting amount of corruption and abuse and left the force.

Just as it's prejudice to blame all Blacks, so it is to blame all cops. Nobody gets a commendation for just doing their job, hence why you don't hear about the vast majority of police interactions that go by the book.

The problem is the lack of accountability, which goes far beyond the precinct walls.into American culture at large.
 
bearkat42

bearkat42

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DutchKillsRambo said:
My mom. She was a Lieutenant in PSD (Professional Standards Division or Internal Affairs as it's also known) for about 11 years till it drove her crazy seeing the disgusting amount of corruption and abuse and left the force.

Just as it's prejudice to blame all Blacks, so it is to blame all cops. Nobody gets a commendation for just doing their job, hence why you don't hear about the vast majority of police interactions that go by the book.

The problem is the lack of accountability, which goes far beyond the precinct walls.into American culture at large.
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And that makes one of them.
 
OddBall1st

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schuylaar said:
those skid marks are straight imo..
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The marks arc to the left. Steering was left, lean on suspension was right, rear drivers side gets power with that open Diff. That car can drive circles into the street, but not do doughnuts like a posi rear-end will.
 
Kasuti

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rollitup said:
Ah yes, the naivete of youth!

You'll only learn the hard way.

:mrgreen:
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You must have me mistaken for someone else. I'm in my late forties and have visited many diffrent countries since I was a teenager, and I don't mean stoner adventures. Most were on business with my father, some not.

One of the things I have came to realize from my personal experiences and talking to other family members who have spent considerable time in some of the most primitive countries in the world is how many personal freedoms we enjoy and take completely for granted never realizing what we may consider a right of freedom is considered a privilege or just not allowed under penalty of death elsewhere. Yet there are people in this country living the relative good life but must still need something to whine about. Be glad your here, things could be ALOT worse.
 
ClaytonBigsby

ClaytonBigsby

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Kasuti said:
You must have me mistaken for someone else. I'm in my late forties and have visited many diffrent countries since I was a teenager, and I don't mean stoner adventures. Most were on business with my father, some not.

One of the things I have came to realize from my personal experiences and talking to other family members who have spent considerable time in some of the most primitive countries in the world is how many personal freedoms we enjoy and take completely for granted never realizing what we may consider a right of freedom is considered a privilege or just not allowed under penalty of death elsewhere. Yet there are people in this country living the relative good life but must still need something to whine about. Be glad your here, things could be ALOT worse.
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bearkat42

bearkat42

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Kasuti said:
You must have me mistaken for someone else. I'm in my late forties and have visited many diffrent countries since I was a teenager, and I don't mean stoner adventures. Most were on business with my father, some not.

One of the things I have came to realize from my personal experiences and talking to other family members who have spent considerable time in some of the most primitive countries in the world is how many personal freedoms we enjoy and take completely for granted never realizing what we may consider a right of freedom is considered a privilege or just not allowed under penalty of death elsewhere. Yet there are people in this country living the relative good life but must still need something to whine about. Be glad your here, things could be ALOT worse.
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Ah yes, we should always be grateful for the opportunity to live in this country, and be treated like second class citizens. It's the American dream.
 
potroastV2

potroastV2

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Kasuti said:
You must have me mistaken for someone else. I'm in my late forties and have visited many diffrent countries since I was a teenager, and I don't mean stoner adventures. Most were on business with my father, some not.

One of the things I have came to realize from my personal experiences and talking to other family members who have spent considerable time in some of the most primitive countries in the world is how many personal freedoms we enjoy and take completely for granted never realizing what we may consider a right of freedom is considered a privilege or just not allowed under penalty of death elsewhere. Yet there are people in this country living the relative good life but must still need something to whine about. Be glad your here, things could be ALOT worse.
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So you're admitting that you won't learn until you are at least 50? :lol:

You think your travels to "the most primitive countries in the world" somehow means something to this subject? I've no need to even comment about it.

:mrgreen:
 
OddBall1st

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Kasuti said:
You must have me mistaken for someone else. I'm in my late forties and have visited many diffrent countries since I was a teenager, and I don't mean stoner adventures. Most were on business with my father, some not.

One of the things I have came to realize from my personal experiences and talking to other family members who have spent considerable time in some of the most primitive countries in the world is how many personal freedoms we enjoy and take completely for granted never realizing what we may consider a right of freedom is considered a privilege or just not allowed under penalty of death elsewhere. Yet there are people in this country living the relative good life but must still need something to whine about. Be glad your here, things could be ALOT worse.
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Some people have no idea what racist and bad cops really are. Because Blacks are more likely to end up in court, the whites are at fault type shit. The crying gives them away.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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Kasuti said:
I don't think it is fair to judge hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel as one. That would be saying in essence that anyone who puts on a uniform automatically becomes racist, prejudiced liars. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good people and bad people in all walks of life. I know every one of us have seen cops do some dirty shit before, but we have all seen cops do some very unselfish things to help people in need who couldn't help themselves. I think it's a matter of the individual, not the uniform.
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They are indoctrinated at the academy. It is drove into thier head.

Ask @Aeroknow how cops are trained. If your one of the good ones that want to change things, your partners leave without backup in a dangerous situation.

The good ones quit or they shut up and conform real quick.

The judicial system is corrupt from top to bottom. Its all money. For profit prisons. Hell even state and county facilities are run like businesses.

There is no incentive to tell the truth and let you go.

They have quotas to meet. Don't meet them, look for another job.

Cops have a lot of incentive to lie. As already stated, they think its OK and part of thier job to lie.

At what point is one lie OK for an arrest or conviction and another one not?
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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whitebb2727 said:
They are indoctrinated at the academy. It is drove into thier head.

Ask @Aeroknow how cops are trained. If your one of the good ones that want to change things, your partners leave without backup in a dangerous situation.

The good ones quit or they shut up and conform real quick.

The judicial system is corrupt from top to bottom. Its all money. For profit prisons. Hell even state and county facilities are run like businesses.

There is no incentive to tell the truth and let you go.

They have quotas to meet. Don't meet them, look for another job.

Cops have a lot of incentive to lie. As already stated, they think its OK and part of thier job to lie.

At what point is one lie OK for an arrest or conviction and another one not?
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Maybe in your neck of the cowardice world. Not Boston,...the citizens will chop the bad cop, ....he has more to worry about than Court. Your area of cowards have no such pull in the community.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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OddBall1st said:
Maybe in your neck of the cowardice world. Not Boston,...the citizens will chop the bad cop, ....he has more to worry about than Court. Your area of cowards have no such pull in the community.
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Maybe change you tone with me a little. It is not cowardice around here.

That's the system, it doesn't matter if that's what you believe or not.

It is a system that preys on weakness. By that, I mean money. If you have no money it is easy for them to stick it to you.

Have you ever just sat in a courtroom and watch? Watch all day? Do you read the paper for arrest and then read the sentencing?

If you have you would notice a trend.

I used to think differently about it until I got put through the ringer on trumped up charges. That's what go me to paying attention.

I bet it still happens in your neck of the woods. You think anything was changed?

Maybe for a short time but its still business as usual behind closed doors.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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whitebb2727 said:
Maybe change you tone with me a little. It is not cowardice around here.

That's the system, it doesn't matter if that's what you believe or not.

It is a system that preys on weakness. By that, I mean money. If you have no money it is easy for them to stick it to you.

Have you ever just sat in a courtroom and watch? Watch all day? Do you read the paper for arrest and then read the sentencing?

If you have you would notice a trend.

I used to think differently about it until I got put through the ringer on trumped up charges. That's what go me to paying attention.

I bet it still happens in your neck of the woods. You think anything was changed?

Maybe for a short time but its still business as usual behind closed doors.
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If it`s a system that preys on weakness, and you`re there,...well say no more, you in the wrong part of town. You go to the weak to prey on the weak,....No?
If cops are running your city, and not policing it, it`s because of the town folk,...not the Russians.
 
OddBall1st

OddBall1st

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Look at Furguson, How long till the Mayor stepped up, if he did at all ? How long till the Governor stepped up,...see,...you get what you vote for. Obama has a National crisis and sends Joe and Al. Ya he cares too.
 
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