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A Lawyer Defending A 17-Year-Old Black Kid Gets Real About Racial Injustice

bearkat42

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In a 43-part tweetstorm on Tuesday, Doucette recounted a recent experience defending a 17-year-old black teen from claims by a police officer that the teen was doing 360s in the middle of the street. Over the course of the story, Doucette demonstrates many of the problems black people face in the U.S. court system and why changes never seem to stick.

http://fusion.net/story/272058/43-tweetsttorm-race-criminal-justice/






 

potroastV2

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It doesn't matter what skin color the citizen has, pigs will lie on their reports about everything. They also lie to judges to get warrants, and they lie to the media.

They are corrupt liars, and what's most reprehensible is that they think that lying is part of their job. IOW they must lie to get convictions, and they are OK with that, because they get away with it. There is no accountability for them.

It's the basis of their corruption.

:mrgreen:
 

ThickStemz

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It doesn't matter what skin color the citizen has, pigs will lie on their reports about everything. They also lie to judges to get warrants, and they lie to the media.

They are corrupt liars, and what's most reprehensible is that they think that lying is part of their job. IOW they must lie to get convictions, and they are OK with that, because they get away with it. There is no accountability for them.

It's the basis of their corruption.

:mrgreen:
I couldn't have said it better myself.

In my one experience on the wrong side of the law, the state trooper who arrested me had a completely fictional account that had little truth in it.

But his testamoney was shaped to fit the evidence as it bore out by the blood analysis.

He asked me if I smoked weed. I answered "not today" and that was my fuck up. He assumed I would have weed in my system based off that response and wrote everything up like one would expect a stoned driver to present.

At trial with no thc in my system his story vastly changed to indicate the only thing in my blood, the anti depressant I was on at the time. Yes the state, the da, and a cop all manipulated evidence to try to convict me based off that.
A middle class white college educated man.

They will fuck anyone. It isn't just blacks.

I'm just lucky I had the 5 grand for a good lawyer that could expose all that bullshit to the jury and got a not guilty verdic .
 

bearkat42

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I couldn't have said it better myself.

In my one experience on the wrong side of the law, the state trooper who arrested me had a completely fictional account that had little truth in it.

But his testamoney was shaped to fit the evidence as it bore out by the blood analysis.

He asked me if I smoked weed. I answered "not today" and that was my fuck up. He assumed I would have weed in my system based off that response and wrote everything up like one would expect a stoned driver to present.

At trial with no thc in my system his story vastly changed to indicate the only thing in my blood, the anti depressant I was on at the time. Yes the state, the da, and a cop all manipulated evidence to try to convict me based off that.
A middle class white college educated man.

They will fuck anyone. It isn't just blacks.

I'm just lucky I had the 5 grand for a good lawyer that could expose all that bullshit to the jury and got a not guilty verdic .
Yes, we're all equal under the law. :roll:
 

ThickStemz

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I think they know who they can and can't pick on generally.

I was in an out of state rental car and kept the appointed free attorney for a long time becuase of the lack of evidence. I didn't hire an attorney until the judge found me guilty in the bench trial and I appealed to a jury trial. I almost got contempt of court for asking the judge when North Carolina did away with the 'beyond a reasonable doubt' standard and adopted the 'it's possible standard' becuase that's why he said he was deciding guilty, becuase "it's possible to be impaired on antidepressants."

If I had hired a real attorney from day one I suspect I would have saved myself time and money.

They know they can treat poor people however they like.
 

Kasuti

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It doesn't matter what skin color the citizen has, pigs will lie on their reports about everything. They also lie to judges to get warrants, and they lie to the media.

They are corrupt liars, and what's most reprehensible is that they think that lying is part of their job. IOW they must lie to get convictions, and they are OK with that, because they get away with it. There is no accountability for them.

It's the basis of their corruption.

:mrgreen:
I don't think it is fair to judge hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel as one. That would be saying in essence that anyone who puts on a uniform automatically becomes racist, prejudiced liars. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good people and bad people in all walks of life. I know every one of us have seen cops do some dirty shit before, but we have all seen cops do some very unselfish things to help people in need who couldn't help themselves. I think it's a matter of the individual, not the uniform.
 

bearkat42

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I don't think it is fair to judge hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel as one. That would be saying in essence that anyone who puts on a uniform automatically becomes racist, prejudiced liars. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good people and bad people in all walks of life. I know every one of us have seen cops do some dirty shit before, but we have all seen cops do some very unselfish things to help people in need who couldn't help themselves. I think it's a matter of the individual, not the uniform.
Show me the good ones. You know the ones that don't stand by and watch the bad ones commit crimes and then falsify records to protect them.
 

Kasuti

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They're names aren't written down anywhere. U can't group a single profession together and call them all good, bad, or indifferent. U cannot honestly say u have never witnessed police helping to save an innocent person's life by helping them get out of a burning car or by doing CPR on a gunshot victim before ems can arrive on scene. Who would u call at 3 in the morning if someone was trying to kick in your front door?
 

bearkat42

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They're names aren't written down anywhere. U can't group a single profession together and call them all good, bad, or indifferent. U cannot honestly say u have never witnessed police helping to save an innocent person's life by helping them get out of a burning car or by doing CPR on a gunshot victim before ems can arrive on scene. Who would u call at 3 in the morning if someone was trying to kick in your front door?
That's their job. I don't give credit for doing your job.
 

Kasuti

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Exactly. It is their job to protect people that otherwise would not be able to protect themselves and every single member of law enforcement took their job as an act of choice. It says a lot about someone if willing to risk their lives to help a stranger for low pay and shitty working conditions
 

bearkat42

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Exactly. It is their job to protect people that otherwise would not be able to protect themselves and every single member of law enforcement took their job as an act of choice. It says a lot about someone if willing to risk their lives to help a stranger for low pay and shitty working conditions
Which part of this excuses their behavior toward minorities?
 

Rob Roy

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It doesn't matter what skin color the citizen has, pigs will lie on their reports about everything. They also lie to judges to get warrants, and they lie to the media.

They are corrupt liars, and what's most reprehensible is that they think that lying is part of their job. IOW they must lie to get convictions, and they are OK with that, because they get away with it. There is no accountability for them.

It's the basis of their corruption.

:mrgreen:

Cops? I thought you described some of their bad acts rather well. Thank you. They are the domestic enforcement component part of a larger organization which has inaccountability (sic) baked in as a systemic foundation.

I don't expect cops to become accountable in the present paradigm, it is impossible. Water is wet. Changing the vessels that hold the water will not cease to make it wet, anymore than attempting to replace bad human actors with better human actors within a system with a core foundational flaw will make it any better.

Striking the root cause is the only way to make a lasting change.
 

potroastV2

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I don't think it is fair to judge hundreds of thousands of law enforcement personnel as one. That would be saying in essence that anyone who puts on a uniform automatically becomes racist, prejudiced liars. There are good cops and bad cops, just like there are good people and bad people in all walks of life. I know every one of us have seen cops do some dirty shit before, but we have all seen cops do some very unselfish things to help people in need who couldn't help themselves. I think it's a matter of the individual, not the uniform.

Oh yeah, the old "not every cop is a bad cop" argument.

That being said then you're admitting that some cops are corrupt cops. So when the "good cops" see what the bad cops are doing, what do they do? They don't say anything about it, and actually defend the bad cops' actions.

That's corruption by pigs, and that means that there are no "good cops."

All cops are corrupt liars.

:mrgreen:
 
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