A Cruise Missile Slammed Into the Pentagon on 911

Dr Kynes said:

you may have spotted one, but it hardly qualifies as a "False Flag" in the context Troofers use the term, as actions against the US and it's interests, and an attempt to frame another state or group as the perps.

setting up a coup in a foreign land in secret is orders of magnitude away from blowing up building in the US to create a "Phony War For Oil" which has thus far failed to produce any oil...

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Canna Sylvan said:

The real danger of false flag is done by other countries. Like how Russia is pretending to be Ukrainian terrorists, in order so when they attack and can claim it's just self defense. But videos have surfaced which prove it's actually Russians. So if Russia actually does attack the Ukraine, Obama can point to Youtube videos and have our blessing to let us annihilate ourselves by starting WW3.

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socalcoolmx said:

Just saying I think you are wrong about turbine blades being made of titanium. I,m sure they are made of the high temp steel alloy Inconel or a very similar steel nichel super alloy. When I have time I will read the report. I try to keep an opened mind .

I do believe the american people have been false flagged by thier government before so I don't think you can't really trust what they say

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Dr Kynes said:

~ http://www.madehow.com/Volume-1/Jet-Engine.html

http://www.rolls-royce.com/interactive_games/journey03/
accept it.

titanium throughout in the fan blades, some are alloyed with nickel, but they are still titanium, and yes, they DO operate in temps beyond their melting point, and yes, there IS centrifugal force.

once all that shit, operating at the outside edge of tolerances hits a big ass bomb resistant reinforced concrete wall and it's facing stones, the failure of the parts is dramatic and total.

Edit: the "Nickel Based Super Alloy" you are talking about is most likely Inconel 625 which DOES contain titanium

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Canna Sylvan said:

The real danger of false flag is done by other countries. Like how Russia is pretending to be Ukrainian terrorists, in order so when they attack and can claim it's just self defense. But videos have surfaced which prove it's actually Russians. So if Russia actually does attack the Ukraine, Obama can point to Youtube videos and have our blessing to let us annihilate ourselves by starting WW3.

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DonAlejandroVega said:

the O admin has given $5B to right-wing Ukrainian nationalists. they're are plenty of actual Ukrainian terrorists. what remains of Ukraine, is Ukraine. Crimea passed directly to the Czars (Czarina, in this case) from the Tatars, via their Ottoman overlords.

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socalcoolmx said:

the exhaust blades are made of nickel super alloy mostly nickel maybe they may be adding some ti now I will check but you could be right about that but to say they are ti is wrong they are a nickel based super alloy I think they have some chromium maybe

why did Johnson call back jets from saving USS Liberty why did Israel shoot the Life boats

why don't you believe the US Sailors that survived the attack are the conspiracy nuts

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Harrekin said:

There's also rumour it was a CIA led coup in the Ukraine that led to these hostilities.

But the US would never assist another country in disposing of their democratically elected leader in favour of a pro-Western person in a coup...

Oh, wait.

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Dr Kynes said:

you repeatedly insist that the turbines use some "Super Alloy" but remain non-specific.
i have offered many sources which all say "Yep, Titanium" but you persist in being vague

johnson "called back the jets" because the attack was OVER, and spitefully seeking revenge on israel while they are in the middle of a war for their existence over a MISTAKE would be fucking retarded.

i DO NOT believe the survivors of the USS Liberty SPY BOAT are conspiracy nuts.
they have their own perspective.

From Wikipedia, because i dont feel like slogging through another conspiracy morass:

"Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[6]

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.5 million in 2014) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty herself plus 13 years' interest." ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

both sides agree it was a mistake, israel paid up with their precious Jew Golds for the error, and only the conspiracy nuts are still butthurt about it

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Dr Kynes said:

theres also a rumour (which is a FACT) that russia wanted a Black Sea Port, and coveted the mineral wealth of the Crimea, so they walked in, pushed Ukraine down, and stole their lunch money.

now russia is twisting Ukraine's arm and making them strike themselves in the face, while chanting "Stop Hitting Yourself"

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Harrekin said:

Russia had/has a black sea port, you dumb fuck.

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Harrekin said:

And how much does the US give Israel per year?

Over a billion dollars.

That over 100 times more PER YEAR than Israel paid in compensation one time.

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Dr Kynes said:

you repeatedly insist that the turbines use some "Super Alloy" but remain non-specific.
i have offered many sources which all say "Yep, Titanium" but you persist in being vague

johnson "called back the jets" because the attack was OVER, and spitefully seeking revenge on israel while they are in the middle of a war for their existence over a MISTAKE would be fucking retarded.

i DO NOT believe the survivors of the USS Liberty SPY BOAT are conspiracy nuts.
they have their own perspective.

From Wikipedia, because i dont feel like slogging through another conspiracy morass:

"Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship. Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[6]

In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.5 million in 2014) as full payment to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 in compensation to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to the Liberty herself plus 13 years' interest." ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident

both sides agree it was a mistake, israel paid up with their precious Jew Golds for the error, and only the conspiracy nuts are still butthurt about it

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socalcoolmx said:

do you know the make up of inconel how much ti is used ? How much al is used
would you call that a ti alloy or a nickel alloy or an al alloy ?
Ti alloy blades are used further away from combustion and exhaust.
they are used in the compressor rotors maybe the stators also, I have to checkit out
Oh and inconel has approx. .4% ti and .4% al and 58% nickel thats .4 % ti

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Doer said:

If it was false flag, then one plane into a Piggly Wiggly Supermarket would have been plenty enough, if it they showed it was Osama. But, because it was Osama, it had to be a big show.

If it was false flag, what did we gain? Looks like a big nothing, in either case.

We would have been completely riled up at any attack on the Homeland. This is why it is not false flag, All the alternate explanations are physically impossible.

There is only one explanation and the only one that covers all the details is the Official Version.

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1. Why did the South Tower collapse first, 56 minutes after it was hit, rather than the North Tower (which was hit first and collapsed 1 hour and 44 minutes after being hit), even though the fire in the North Tower (the alleged cause of the collapse) was more intense?

tobinates559 said:

"The USA PATRIOT Act is an Act of Congress that was signed into law by President George W. Bush on October 26, 2001. The title of the act is a ten-letter backronym(USA PATRIOT) that stands for Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act of 2001.[1]

On May 26, 2011, President Barack Obama signed the PATRIOT Sunsets Extension Act of 2011, a four-year extension of three key provisions in the USA PATRIOT Act:[2]roving wiretaps, searches of business records (the "library records provision"), and conducting surveillance of "lone wolves"—individuals suspected of terrorist-related activities not linked to terrorist groups.[3]"


"The Homeland Security Act (HSA) of 2002, (Pub.L. 107–296, 116 Stat. 2135, enacted November 25, 2002) was introduced in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks and subsequent mailings of anthrax spores.[1] The HSA was cosponsored by 118 members of Congress.[2] It was signed into law by President George W. Bush in November 2002.[3][4]

HSA created the United States Department of Homeland Security and the new cabinet-level position of Secretary of Homeland Security. It is the largest federal government reorganization since the Department of Defense was created via the National Security Act of 1947 (as amended in 1949). It also includes many of the organizations under which the powers of the USA PATRIOT Act are exercised."

1. Why did the South Tower collapse first, 56 minutes after it was hit, rather than the North Tower (which was hit first and collapsed 1 hour and 44 minutes after being hit), even though the fire in the North Tower (the alleged cause of the collapse) was more intense?

http://www.rense.com/general82/whod.htm


actually all of YOUR explanations are physically impossible...OPEN YOUR MIND

According to the Washington Post, the Carlyle Group met at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in NYC one day before 9/11. In attendance at this meeting were former president George H. W. Bush and Shafiq bin Laden, the brother of Osama

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