9/11 what do you think?

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NoDrama said:
That must explain why they went to Vegas to gamble, get lap dances and screw hookers. Religious zealots who were willing to give their lives, but not willing to follow the rules of that religion. Makes sense.
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You don't anything about Islam or about the Jihad exceptions before Martyrdom.....sad brain.
 
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Novicehomegrower said:
im winding you up i dont believe the no plain theory .. how ever i stand by that it would be difficult to accurately pull of such an attack
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Out of luck. But, you do reveal your intentions. You are not winding me up. Stupid. So go fly.

Btw, don't jump out. It is farther down than it looks.
 
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tokeprep said:
Why presume that three got lucky? Did the other pilots have to execute the supposedly difficult turn that you're complaining about?
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The second guy got lucky. He was banked at 45 degrees and pulling 2 g to get that turn done. It's not hard.

And those idiots that have not flown and have not been in flight simulators as i have don't know shit about it.

It is easy to fly. Hard to take off straight in any wind. Damn hard to land.

But, a trimmed aircraft (;look it up) using its dynamic stability (look it up) will fly itself, straight and level.
Then little pressures is all it takes.

Very easy.
 
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tokeprep said:
What if they just got lucky in their desperation to hit the assigned target? How could you possibly distinguish?

Interestingly, this very article discusses witness reports that the plane didn't initially hit the building, instead skidding off of the lawn and then into the building. Evidently they didn't initially hit their target, then?
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The Pentegon was a differnt flight regime all together. He wanted surely to touch down inside the ring.

But, that is landing and he tried to buzz it in at speed. He could have easily missed so he augered it early. Not enough skill to dirty up the ship, lower the gear and flap and make it a stabilized bombing run.

That takes maybe 20 hrs of landing practice to be consistent and not stall early.

But, it takes 100s of hr to consistently hit the 3D spot with all rates in hand.
 
echelon1k1

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Doer said:
You don't anything about Islam or about the Jihad exceptions before Martyrdom.....sad brain.
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Please explain jihad exceptions before martyrdom. This I want to hear... especially from someone that credits the Nazis with sharia law.
 
echelon1k1

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Doer said:
The second guy got lucky. He was banked at 45 degrees and pulling 2 g to get that turn done. It's not hard.

And those idiots that have not flown and have not been in flight simulators as i have don't know shit about it.

It is easy to fly. Hard to take off straight in any wind. Damn hard to land.

But, a trimmed aircraft (;look it up) using its dynamic stability (look it up) will fly itself, straight and level.
Then little pressures is all it takes.

Very easy.
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here we go, another armchair general comparing xbox and real aircraft. I remember you mentioning you're currently on the same medication as Zimmerman was when he went all "condo commando"...
 
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tokeprep

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echelon1k1 said:
I am not. I'm not even claiming I could do what we saw that day. I'm not claiming what they did would be "easy" either, you seem to think it would.

You jumped in here after I questioned another claim that $100 will train you to hit a building and that that it'd be easy to do and I would take the term "flying" to mean navigating too.

Apparently it's just like driving a car then moving onto a truck. A comment like that proves you have never driven anything over 2t GVM or you would know there's a little more to it.
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That's certainly my personal opinion, that it would be easy for people with extensive training to fly in good weather and hit a target, but regardless, I think it's possible at the very least, and certainly not implausible. I never said one day of flight school would do it. My car-to-truck question merely suggested that the principles are probably the same, even with a larger vehicle. Since the pilots all trained on Boeing simulators, I don't find the point meaningful anyway.

Whether you can hit a building after a $100 flight lesson is irrelevant since that isn't the reality we're talking about.
 
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Novicehomegrower said:
and as i said before you need years of training and simulation to be able to fly a plane, those who think you could be that accurate with a few months training are illogical
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Do you not know how much training the pilots have? Some of them trained every single day for months, logging hundreds of hours in Boeing simulators. They had already earned pilot certificates.
 
BeastGrow

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Novicehomegrower said:
last post in this thread

best video ever to be filmed showing how it was a controlled demo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cvWwIxMbmE

try to debunk this you faktriots
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A plane travelling 300-500 miles per hour would have travelled between 1 and 2 miles in the 12 seconds between the 2 video perspectives. It is possible that the distance between the tower and the furthest object we can see at the zoomed out shot at 10 seconds into the video is more than 2 miles... if so then it is very likely this film was faked.

Plus weren't there thousands of eyewitnesses that saw the 2nd aircraft hit the tower?
 
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tokeprep said:
That's certainly my personal opinion, that it would be easy for people with extensive training to fly in good weather and hit a target, but regardless, I think it's possible at the very least, and certainly not implausible. I never said one day of flight school would do it. My car-to-truck question merely suggested that the principles are probably the same, even with a larger vehicle. Since the pilots all trained on Boeing simulators, I don't find the point meaningful anyway.

Whether you can hit a building after a $100 flight lesson is irrelevant since that isn't the reality we're talking about.
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Right. We are saying if he had the $100 lesson he could see how easy it is to steer a plane around in the sky. Here are the real simulators and they are so well certified they count for training hours. I was in an F4 simulator with I was 12 years old. My dad was the Simulator Chief Msgt, for the Air Force. One of only 63, NCOIC commissioned by Congress as a new rank. I grew up with this and have been oriented in the Apache which is a hoot.

The seat vibrates from the chain gun. And the air speed actually drops, from the recoil..gotta be careful with that.

 
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