9/11 Bullsh!t

fdd2blk said:

see they are "debunking" it. all the theorist say the damage is "inconsistent". they are showing that it is not. meaning......yes, a plane hit the building.

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ok so all 12 tons of steel vanished except a handful but they found finger prints and dna???? thats so believable! since skin is stronger then steel! i finally understand

originalstrain said:

ok so all 12 tons of steel vanished except a handful but they found finger prints and dna???? thats so believable! since skin is stronger then steel! i finally understand

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you are not with us my friend. some good sh*t you're smoking.

i was simply explaining to him what the title meant. it wasn't even an opinion.

steel is a crystalline matrix so when you spread the matrix out with heat it gets weak fast.

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anyone ever seen a steel cable snap? i have, it's quick - one second the truck is coming out of the mud and the next moment the cable is just gone. good thing you weren't standing there! does anyone really expect huge towers to gracefully sag their way to the ground like they're taking a nap???

due to impact we have fewer core supports. due to fire we are constantly weakening those remaining members that were never intended to have this increased load.

all it takes is one or two of the secondary supports to give and that's going to create enough momentum to let the whole level drop down AND pull the ones above it. once that level hits the next you've doubled your total "falling" mass. remember E=mc^2?? by doubling the mass you have more than squared the energy, not just doubled it!! there is no building in the world that could put the brakes on 15 or 20% of its own mass coming down on it. for each level that initially slipped 12 feet you're giving the levels below many many many times more energy/weight than it was made to take. keep in mind that this happened in the blink of an eye. one or two supports gave instantly, the mass was so large and there were so many secondary supports that it took a little while for the rest of the building to catch up but once the velocity was introduced to core supports it was all over.

also, those buildings were cheaply made. there could have been inferior steel involved, they might have been testing some kind of high strength concrete (known to be weaker than normal concrete when heated) during construction, who knows/cares???

the real problem is this: OUR GOVERNMENT HAD INFO THAT THIS WAS GOING TO HAPPEN!

it happened and the government response was to increase bureaucracy, increase the layers or agencies, increase the spending!

we would demand a refund if we bought this shit-pile government at a store!

they don't get it!

if there was any steel that looked like it had been cut someone would have grabbed a piece or snapped a pic and it would be on full public display. think of all the people sifting through that pile, all the engineers looking at the rubble. there was no blast, there was no demolition. seriously, just get mad at the obvious and real tragedy about our government's failure.. that should be enough to get you through to a very old age.






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also, if the buildings were demo'd, they wouldn't have fallen outward, away from the central columns like a fountain. the four main beams were right in the middle, inside. if they got cut with explosives the building would have fallen in on itself instead of spewing out all four sides. if even ONE beam was cut that corner would have fallen IN, not out. DEBUNKED.




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Micheal Kelso said:

http://www.european911citizensjury.com/WTC-Evidence of thermite on column-indicated-b.jpg

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ok, now show the world the blueprints to prove there wasn't a weld there during construction....






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Well of course I can't do that, but if that is welding done by a professional - it's a pretty shitty weld job.

It looks just like a beam that has been cut with thermite to me.

I obviously can't change your mind, you're going to think what you want to. I just think it seems fishy and more and more proof keeps popping up.

There really isn't anything anyone can do, they made sure to dispose of any evidence very quickly.

Those beams could have been cut in a rescue attempt after the building fell for all I know.

I just know I don't trust this government and am not willing to just turn my head the other way and pretend I don't see all these red flags.

9/11 Debunkers Hide From Slam Dunk Evidence Of Controlled Demolition

that's some dude talking about traces of thermate found in lab tests of the steel beams..

If anyone has noticed while watching intentionally demolished buildings, they collapse from the bottom up, not the top (or middle) down.

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2 planes hit 2 buildings but yet three buildings fell. How is that? Bldg 7 was "demo-ed" The evidence is clear and the facts are straight.... That is why the media fails to interview the victims, the firemen, police-men, countless of FBI and others who where there on the scene who will testify to bombs exploding. Even the owner of the trade center took out $1 billion worth of insurance prior to the incident..... 911 was an inside job!

kittysecrets4u said:

2 planes hit 2 buildings but yet three buildings fell. How is that? Bldg 7 was "demo-ed" The evidence is clear and the facts are straight.... That is why the media fails to interview the victims, the firemen, police-men, countless of FBI and others who where there on the scene who will testify to bombs exploding. Even the owner of the trade center took out $1 billion worth of insurance prior to the incident..... 911 was an inside job!

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That policy never paid out. The government declared this obvious act of terrorism an act of war on 9/15/2001 so that the insurance companies would not have to pay out.

Chrisuperfly said:

Well I think the fact that they have been around for 105 years might be a clue.....

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the bible has been around for thousands does that make it real??no its all theories and thats all ne one has on the trade centers not one person knows the exact but i go with the most sensible! im gonna go with just 1 of there debunks and debunk that! the jet fuel couldnt have melted steel they say...

Claim: "We have been lied to," announces the Web site AttackOnAmerica.net. "The first lie was that the load of fuel from the aircraft was the cause of structural failure. No kerosene fire can burn hot enough to melt steel." The posting is entitled "Proof Of Controlled Demolition At The WTC."

FACT: Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn't need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength


i believe that jet fuel cant melt steel and that it could have made it fall by weakening it. but why are there several eyewitnesses including fireman and police that say they saw melted steel running everywhere???? answer me that pop. mech. fuck outta here there talking a little bit of what the "crazy consp. theorist" are sayin and proving that wrong wtf someone explain to me why people would lie about that when they wernt even being interviewed by the "crazy theorist" they were just telling their story! the steel was melted by explosives they found the explosive chemicals all over the area! can someone explain that????

so now everyone has it..... 4 threads rehashing the same arguments over and over again.

Explosives wont melt steel, they would twist it and shatter it, but they would not melt it. Aluminum melts at a much lower temperature than steel, and wouldn't you know it 90% of a commercial jetliner is aluminum. I dou't doubt they say rivulets of molten metel coming off the building, but I doubt any of the firemen are metalurgists.

None of the steel from the world trade center was tested for thermite.

Please show me one report from a lab that says there was explosives residue anywhere in the area.

dankie said:

None of the steel from the world trade center was tested for thermite.

Please show me one report from a lab that says there was explosives residue anywhere in the area.

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Here ya go ...

But you won't accept the facts ... most that believe this regime had nothing to do with 911 won't ...

mondaypurple said:

-who do you believe?(Me? FDD? George Bush? The ones suggesting these "Conspiracy Theories"? Don't you ever consider that it's set up to get you confused so that you don't know WHO to believe? They're way ahead of us...whoever it may be.)
-what relevance does it have?(This bullshit happened almost a decade ago...and then another decade before that...and one more before that? Yeah, you're really getting something accomplished theorizing..)
-what are you gonna do about it?(probably just sit on rollitup.com arguing with FDD about how messed up some shit is..and then?..go to sleep and wake up the next day and do the same thing..and again....nice job accomplishing ANYTHING.)

Zeitgeist is only my sig. because of the religion and future part. Get ready for your ID with your life on it.

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wow good thing everyone doesn't think like you! or the world would be in trouble and you would never have realized jesus is a fraud! the more ppl who know about it the more we as a country have something we can do! if only a handful of us hear about it nothing will happen unless 1 of us has trillions of dollars! but the more ppl who hear it the better chance we have against it. just like your trying to show pretty much the whole fucking world jesus isnt real ( which im with ya on ) but what are you gonna do about it , NOTHING you just want people to hear you and the things you know! well were doing the same dumb ass except there are a lot less people to convince on our cause! you fuckin hypocrite your doing the same against religion dumb ass but they have somthing against criticism that 9/11 doesn't.... FAITH and its a lot harder to get people to stop having faith then to stop having trust in strangers!!!

GrowRebel said:

Here ya go ...

But you won't accept the facts ... most that believe this regime had nothing to do with 911 won't ...

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You may want to reread your source, none of the steel that was in WTC 1 2 or 7 was tested for thermite.

Here are 4 known facts not theories that you can research yourself....

1. Bush took FBI Agents off Bin-Laden family trail.
2. [FONT=arial,helvetica][FONT=Courier, Times New Roman] FBI Special Agent Robert G. Wright Jr. held a news conference Washington to reveal FBI negligence and obstruction of counter terrorism investigations targeting Hamas and al-Qaeda.

3. [/FONT][/FONT]Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC complex, admitted on a September 2002 PBS documentary, 'America Rebuilds' that he and the NYFD decided to 'pull' WTC 7 on the day of the attack. The word 'pull' is industry jargon for taking a building down with explosives.

4. In February of 2002 Silverstein Properties won $861 million from Industrial Risk Insurers to rebuild on the site of WTC 7. Silverstein Properties' estimated investment in WTC 7 was $386 million. So: This building's collapse resulted in a profit of about $500 million!

Another hard thing to believe is that the US Dollars will be replace with the Amero thus consolidating the United States, Mexico, and Canada into one currency market similar to the European Union. They will also remove the boarders. The same nuts who orchestrated 911 is also leading us into a one World Government. They are using false terrorist attacks so that the American People buy into it. You also need to look up ugentics and it's plan to decrease the population by 80%.

dankie said:

You may want to reread your source, none of the steel that was in WTC 1 2 or 7 was tested for thermite.

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A thermite reaction generates extraordinarily high temperatures (>25000 C) and provides a credible explanation for the fires, hot spots and molten steel (a by-product of the thermite reaction) found in the collapsed buildings.

You're the one that needs to reread ....