600w White Label White Widow/DNA Genetics Chocolope

Evo8Emperor said:

I wouldn't get too hasty. lol. I'm lost you chopped down a chocolope you had vegging ?

I wouldn't have if so...

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The chocoshit one. The one that was stunted and fucked up the whole time. And the White Widow.

The roots were like so brown, never seen roots that brown on my plants before.

Im worried about my other Chocolope, the one that was doing good.

My cameras charging, i'll have some pictures of the roots later.

ahh i got ya.

well I know you said you plants looked stressed so you know there's something up but my roots in my systems stay brown as well. Just due to the sea weed. Is one of those other product's brown as well ?

Evo8Emperor said:

ahh i got ya.

well I know you said you plants looked stressed so you know there's something up but my roots in my systems stay brown as well. Just due to the sea weed. Is one of those other product's brown as well ?

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They're all clear besides for the foliage pro which is dark green/mint color.

I put 15ml aquashield per bucket.

I hope the Afghans are just getting air pruned and its not root rot.

All these plants this round look shit. Pissing me off, not sure what the issue is. The White Widow is turning around, but the growth isn't very green.

You should all try using a compost tea to clear out the brown in the roots. Your plants will look healthier and happier.

It's really simple. A bucket, some worm castings, and myco. Breed the bennies for a few days and add to your regular feeding. It will clean teh roots out and get rid of the "brown sludge".

Those buckets look amazing. I am planning on making a couple this next week for my seeds. Growing WW, as well. I will be following your grow closely.

Well I haven't lately but I just added some 29%h2o2 to the reservoir's @ 2ml a gal for now.

I've tried clorox as well @ 3ml per 10 gallons or a drop per gallon. I'm worried about using to much of either one but more so bleach and after effect's in the smoke so i brought that to a hault. Have no real results for it either although I didn't kill any plants. lol.

Yeah i'm going to pick up some spring water and brew some tea today. 10ml per gal aquashield, quarter scoop of great white with a handful of EWC. Where you been Lantern?

Got my cloner made last night. Could use a few pointers on using it, mostly worried about my water being too cold.

I also wanna start using Rapid Rooters for seeds, but when I used them in the garden last summer they dried out so quickly, so worried about that. RW seems to be giving me too many PH related issues, and the fucking thing just takes on so much water.

I hear from ABF that bleach(sodium hypochlorite) breaks down into NaCl and H2O

Rapid rooters are the shit. When you said they dried out in your garden last summer I assume that it was outside? I jut germinated my last 8 to 10 seeds using rapids rooters with 100% success rate and half of the were freebies.

sky rocket said:

Rapid rooters are the shit. When you said they dried out in your garden last summer I assume that it was outside? I jut germinated my last 8 to 10 seeds using rapids rooters with 100% success rate and half of the were freebies.

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Yeah that was outside, I was trying to grow herbs.

I put a couple bag seeds from some bud I grew a couple grows ago into some rapid rooters. Just to see how they survive.

I mixed up some .2EC water at 5.8 for my seedlings in RW and then I soaked the rapid rooters in them and squeezed them out a little, then put them in a tiny plastic shotglass and put an 8oz cup over it.

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Chocolope - Was started at .95EC of dynagro foliage pro, protekt, and magpro. Dropped to .9EC so I upped to a full 1.0EC with some foliage pro. Was at 5.8, 36 hours later. Spitting out lots of fuzzy roots from inside the netpot, theyll be in the buckets soon.

My concerns with this plant is the spots in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th picture. And that its growing so short and so fucking crowded, I need to LST this bitch. Its nodular growth is so thick, especially the bottom set.




White Widow - Was filled with .78EC of Ionic grow and 3ml/gal calmag. Yesterday nutrients were at .7EC so I upped her to .85EC with 2ml calmag and the rest grow.

My concerns with this plant is the spotting in 2nd and 3rd picture and that its not branching well internodually(hahaha, not a word but whatever)




Afghan Kush Special - World of Seeds, sprouted less than 48hours ago - Getting .13EC tap water with .03EC Protekt, and .05EC Foliage Pro. .21EC total @ 5.8





Afghan Kush Special - Sprouted 48 hours ago - Getting .13EC tap water with .03EC Protekt, and .05EC Foliage Pro. .21EC total @ 5.8

See how the root is all brown at the end and shriveled? The root is branching and more are coming out so, must not be root rot. Probably air pruned.




My cloner I made. Hopefully get like 9 sites out of it. I tried it out already outside and my pants were soaked in seconds standing next to it. It works GREAT.

Gotta find a bucket to use permanently and a lid. Thinking about the grey lowes ones.

Hopefully these rapid rooters work good for me so these Afghans will be the last plants I do in RW. RW isn't that bad, but its not so discreet to throw away, and thats the only shit I throw away so. Rapid Rooters will become better worm food for my garden outside.

Nice. Are you going to put the afghan in a dwc bucket after they leave the cloner? Also do you have you handmade cloner set for 24 hours or on a timer? I read somewhere that if you bury rock wool in the dirt that it takes years for it to dissolve.

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Chocolope was at 5.0 PH/.92EC last night. Whack. So I just changed out the nutrient water to 1.1EC, let it bubble for 3-4 hours and then PHed it to 5.8. Today shes at 6.1PH and 1.1EC. Dropped her to 5.8

I LSTed her last night. Never done it before, but I checked her this morning and shes already pointing towards the light.



White Widow was at 6.1PH/.83EC last night. I'll monitor the EC closely. (Edit: White Widow was at .74EC, upped it to 1.0EC with Dynagro, same .5ml/gal magpro, 4ml/gal protekt, and rest foliage pro, ended up being 10ml total for 3 gal.



Finished the cloner, cost me $36.

sky rocket said:

Nice. Are you going to put the afghan in a dwc bucket after they leave the cloner? Also do you have you handmade cloner set for 24 hours or on a timer? I read somewhere that if you bury rock wool in the dirt that it takes years for it to dissolve.

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It's set for 24hours, I haven't started using it yet.

And the Afghans are in RW and yes they will be going DWC. And the best one will be a donor to select a future mother.

So Chocolope was at 5.4PH/1.05EC today at 9pm, 36 hours after PHing to 5.8

Beginning to think I have a bacterial problem. New roots are coming out, but there is still that brownish area, but i've had brown roots like this before. They aren't slimey I feel everyday and nothing.

I hear if you have too much Nitrogen in your solution your PH will drop even if your plants are still eating the other nutrients?

The white widow was at 6.1PH/.95EC. Another dropping EC, but the PH is rising this time.

This morning both plants wete at 5.7 12 hrs later. Ec looked to be the same.

Surely a bacterial problem would lower it a lot more than .1 overnight.

Chocolope is at 5.6PH/1.02 EC

W T F. Roots look healthy enough. Plant looks very healthy. Maybe a bit dark in the leaves.

I think its the beginnings of root rot. I'm noticing a lot of root bits floating around and saw a legit dark brown dead root today.

Changed out the water and put 2ml/gal roughly or 29% h2o2 and submerged the roots entirely.

Got tea brewing.

This grow is so far the most stressful and filled with issues.

I hear ya man. I wish someone else would chime in for ya to for just another opinion.

I'm having issues with the plants in all the water set-ups as well.

I was curious if i asked you if you use RO water or tap ?

This grow I bought a 100gpd RO unit and have been using RO water for everything but I'm about to use tap. I never had root rot issues or slime like i do now and I havent even been growing again for a while. Seems like it hit right away.Plants have been green and healthy but growing at a snails pace or not at all really.

Im blaming it on the RO water. lol. I brewed some tea like you the other day as well and got a diy chiller into my UC res today so hopefully things change for us both.

Evo8Emperor said:

I hear ya man. I wish someone else would chime in for ya to for just another opinion.

I'm having issues with the plants in all the water set-ups as well.

I was curious if i asked you if you use RO water or tap ?

This grow I bought a 100gpd RO unit and have been using RO water for everything but I'm about to use tap. I never had root rot issues or slime like i do now and I havent even been growing again for a while. Seems like it hit right away.Plants have been green and healthy but growing at a snails pace or not at all really.

Im blaming it on the RO water. lol. I brewed some tea like you the other day as well and got a diy chiller into my UC res today so hopefully things change for us both.

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I use regular tap, but am considering an RO unit. Sorry to hear about your plants, i'm enjoying colder weather due to the winter so my res is usually 62-66F. During the summer I never had an issue with 76-80F temps with just straight tap and nutrients and bi-weekly res changes. And now it seems like everything is taking so long and turning to shit.

I think it was the problem plant spreading it to the others by using the same probe for testing(be tight if I were rich and could afford a guardian for each bucket ). The Chocolope looks more lush green than ever, with so much vegetation(i'll take pictures tomorrow). But I know some bad bacteria is there. So I put 15ml aquashield, 1/8 scoop great white, handful of EWC in a ladies stocking with 2 air hoses inside bubbling up the EWC.

I found that the tea browns my roots even having the EWC in a stocking there is still small particles left which cling to the roots i've noticed. But as long as they're healthy.

I'm going to pour it from the top of the medium and let it saturate downwards and maybe that will act like a filter.

My res temps were high 70's and plants pretty much just stalled. Still green but no growth. I run the under current and the water pump running 24/7 and the lights in the tent do nothing but heat up the water so I have no choice nor does anyone else running a under current its mandatory for it. So I bought a used dehumidifier and bent the evaporated right into the reservoir for now. People are worried about copper leaching but we used copper for water pipes for ever so I just said screw it and less mess and what not. Dropped my res from like 79-80 right to 66 degrees in about an hr i guess. It was fast either way and I put it on a 24 hr light timer with 15mins on and 30mins off. Ill see what the temp is in the morning to get an idea anyway.

I poured my tea from the top down to for the most part but with the under current I run about 30-40 gals of water so its a lot i put in. lol.

I ran into root rot once in my dwc. I some of roots were brown and slimy. I cut the bad roots off. I thoroughly cleaned my bucket and refilled my bucket with fresh r/o water and eventually added my nutes back to it (if I remember correctly). I also used frozen water bottles to keep the temps around 68.