I take a pipette and keep it moist until first root pops out then into finish size pot, no transplanting over here. Mist hem right at start. Nutes load i add in cube is enough to get them through with minimal fading. Like cubes better than the touchy cloner. Get it dialed in and it's great. Out of spec and everything dies..
Nice nice, appreciate the info. Tomorrow I'm gonna recheck the plugs and take a little dropper of Ph'd nute water to them if they're feeling a little light, was most concerned with the overwatering but those drying up/wilting cuttings are making me nervous, just popping the lid off the tray it smells like dying plant but I really don't wanna mess with them too much and possibly overdue it
Granny cloning.
Sounds like root rot to me. Hope not.
I don't even think there's any roots TO rot lol, I honestly think it's the foliage on some of them that are really starting to get old and wilted, furthering my concerns that batch #1 didn't work out so well
What they say about rockwool is ABSOLUTELY true - for seedlings. But for clones with no roots, you WANT the water. Hell, cloning is often done by putting the cutting literally IN a container of water - It doesn't get any wetter than that.
Do not let cubes get too wet before roots appear. If you do they won't make roots. They don't drink much until they do get roots. So, you should only have to apply water on like the fifth or sixth day. But not too much! Use the weight of the cubes to determine whether or not they need water.
Yeah, there's no roots to rot...
There is no standing water in the tray, and I haven't pulled any out yet. The tray is just sitting above the bottom of the tray with the dome, and under that tray is the heat mat, plugs are all relatively moist and I haven't pulled any yet, as I'm just gonna wait and give them atleast a week's total time (they're on day 4 now) before I consider scrapping them, they're getting to the brown /crispy stage with some leaves on some of them anyway
All I can say is that it's just contrary to what I am doing that is *working 100%* so far (7 out of 7 rooted), though admittedly, I'm not using rockwool, but Jiffy (peat) cubes - but the concept is similar as peat is also very hydrophilic like the rockwool, and I always hear "squeeze the excess water from the jiffy cube" (which I don't do). Its also contrary to the fact that many people successfully root them in straight up water, no medium at all.
Yeah, the four day old ones are goners. I'm referring to the ones in blue circles.
Exactly - I think that so much that's written about cloning is just utter BS designed more to sell products than anything else.
Not sure about anything regarding cloning. But been an active gardener for decades, I'll be 60 this year, hopefully !
Thank you very much for that, I really appreciate all of the advice. Tomorrow I'm cutting another 5 clones (so the gap between clones will only be just 24 hours now) and am gonna add some standing water to the bottom of the tray, though I was worried about the heat mat really being useless at that point, if there was too much water to heat through. Most of the clones were just straight up 45° angled cuts right to stem without a node under the rockwool (which I'm now aware isn't the best move), so with the next 5 tomorrow I'm gonna cut em, cut em at the 45° angle under water, scrape em underwater, wishbone em and cover the cut/bottom most node in gel and throw em in the plugs, if this doesn't work, I'm literally out of ideas
You'll get it, man, I think having some water in the tray alone will make a huge difference. Keep the heat pad under it - warmer water will evap faster and keep that humidity up. Just keep varying your process one change at a time until you start getting successes.
Very much appreciated
Crédit where credit is due, putting a little standing water in the bottom of the tray and waking up this morning, the dome was visibly more humid than its ever been (when waking up in the morning), so thank you for that. Batch #3 of clones were just cut, all were cut and scraped under water and they all have atleast one node that was scraped and covered in gel, placed in the plugs. So master splinter, what should I do with these fan leaves? Cut em off or leave them? Poor mother plants getting f'ed up every other day, I'd really like this to be the last batch I cut lol
