400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

mazand1982

mazand1982

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KawiZZR said:
Think I'm going to just get the HPS and maybe a spare bulb. How is the socket that comes with it? I can't tell from the pictures on their site but it looks like it wouldn't be too hard to hang naked, might help keep temps down a bit that way. How close can you get plants if you use the hood it comes with? Also, how far do you get good penetration from it? Sorry for all the questions, just want to avoid as many potential problems as possible when move up from the 150.
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dont worry about the questions bro, when i first busted i was doin the same thing, believe me, they helped me, i help you, everyone wins...the socket it comes with is called a mogul socket, it looks just like a household socket but wayy bigger, i wouldnt recommend hanging it "naked"...the most light output on the HPS and MH bulb, (conversion or conventional) come from the sides of the bulb where there is more surface area, if u hang it naked its gonna have to be on the inside of a circle of plants then u have to worry about the other sides of the plants(s) and most importanatly, the tops of the plants, getting light....plus i cant stress to you enough how hot that fuckin bulkb gets,lol...it made my little cabinet go from 72 degrees F when i was vegging with cfls to like 103 when i first installed the HID set up...your gonna be bummed when u try to run the bulb by itself, in an open hood or any other non-cooled method when u see the temps rise drastically....heres what i did with the the hood it comes with, i bought a piece of tempered glass and secured it to the bottom of the HTG hood it comes with, thus making it a enclosed hood, then i drilled two 2" holes on the side of the reflective material and one of the holes has a piece of ducting that goes directly to a small exhaust fan and the other hole stays open for fresh cool air to be sucked into the hood (which heats up and goes out the ducted hole).now that my hood is cooled my temps are a steady 73F...my penetration is excellent considering im maxed out in my space...youll b fine with the 400, its a good light without goin over the top...mine is a legit prop 215 medical grow cause of my chronic insomnia and work related injuries but even if your grow has to be ultra stealth, the 400 barely uses any electricty...heres some pics of mine to get an idea how i cooled it with what it came with, quite ingenuitive if i do say so myslef,haha...the black hose u see coming out of the hood goes to a small light proof box i constructed with foam board from michaels hot clue, foil tape and a strong PC fan...enjoyIMG_20110328_215003.jpgIMG_20110328_214909.jpgIMG_20110328_214950.jpgIMG_20110326_103838.jpgIMG_20110328_214923.jpgIMG_20110328_214933.jpg
 
Topo

Topo

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I downsized from a 600 to a 400 due to much smaller growing space. Less heat. And I'm legal so I don't give a fuck about odor. Just grow 'em and blow 'em.

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The small ones are Barney's Tangerine Dream, one C99 (tall lanky one), and a Bubblegummer. The bigger flowering plants are Elephant and Crystal. I have one baby that could be a poster-child for magnesium deficiency, but I have fucked around with it since it popped the soil, and it was yellow from day one. I've tried everything. I think it's got some retarded genetics. So fuck it, tomorrow I am going to piss on her.

Hell, she's been pissing me off from the start.
 
Topo

Topo

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mazand1982 said:
did you try flushing the plants with plain water before u came up with the ingenious plan of peeing on them?..lol
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It's only one of them. I planted it in fresh unopened Fox Farm Ocean Soil bag. She popped out that way, 'was way before any nutes were introduced.

And yes, she later got flushed thoroughly. To be even more reactive, I put her in another fresh batch of unadulterated FF soil in a bigger pot.

I've doing this for 35 years, 'never seen anything like it. All her sisters are green. She's the yellow sheep of the family.
 
KawiZZR

KawiZZR

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mazand1982 said:
dont worry about the questions bro, when i first busted i was doin the same thing, believe me, they helped me, i help you, everyone wins...the socket it comes with is called a mogul socket, it looks just like a household socket but wayy bigger, i wouldnt recommend hanging it "naked"...the most light output on the HPS and MH bulb, (conversion or conventional) come from the sides of the bulb where there is more surface area, if u hang it naked its gonna have to be on the inside of a circle of plants then u have to worry about the other sides of the plants(s) and most importanatly, the tops of the plants, getting light....plus i cant stress to you enough how hot that fuckin bulkb gets,lol...it made my little cabinet go from 72 degrees F when i was vegging with cfls to like 103 when i first installed the HID set up...your gonna be bummed when u try to run the bulb by itself, in an open hood or any other non-cooled method when u see the temps rise drastically....heres what i did with the the hood it comes with, i bought a piece of tempered glass and secured it to the bottom of the HTG hood it comes with, thus making it a enclosed hood, then i drilled two 2" holes on the side of the reflective material and one of the holes has a piece of ducting that goes directly to a small exhaust fan and the other hole stays open for fresh cool air to be sucked into the hood (which heats up and goes out the ducted hole).now that my hood is cooled my temps are a steady 73F...my penetration is excellent considering im maxed out in my space...youll b fine with the 400, its a good light without goin over the top...mine is a legit prop 215 medical grow cause of my chronic insomnia and work related injuries but even if your grow has to be ultra stealth, the 400 barely uses any electricty...heres some pics of mine to get an idea how i cooled it with what it came with, quite ingenuitive if i do say so myslef,haha...the black hose u see coming out of the hood goes to a small light proof box i constructed with foam board from michaels hot clue, foil tape and a strong PC fan...enjoy
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Haha sorry man I didn't mean to come off as a complete noob, I've done Mi5 under CFLs and mango under a 150 HPS, just never used a 400 so not sure what to expect on heat. The socket question was because I've seen a couple of mogul ones that come with mounts for both vertical and horizontal use while most have only one or the other from what I can tell. What size cab are you using? The reason I was considering a naked hanging bulb is that if the hood holds in too much heat I was gonna ditch it. I like your DIY air cooled method though, think I might try something like that if my temps spike up the way yours did. I currently have a +200 CFM exhaust fan that I don't even run because my temps stay around 80 without it and I'm just now getting around to putting in a carbon filter, with that fan on the whole house smells dank. I think once I put a filter in place and turn the fan on my temps should be okay, but if not I'll try to imitate or improve on your method of cooling it. Thanks for all the help man.
 
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incognegro999

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22 days int0 12/12. 1st grow bagseed. started under cfl's went to dual 150 mh hps lights and finally to the 400 lol. Lot of rookie mistakes but they hung in there like champs. Should actually have a clue what Im doing when the Tangerine dreams gets here in a couple days.
 
Topo

Topo

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Right on man! I am a step ahead of you with the TD, and I must say stay on top of them. I've grown forever (35 years) and this strain is a little fickle. 'Not much margin for error.

Ninety percent of mine have the sativa genotype, which is great, because sativas are my favorite. To me, they always have a better bud-to-leaf ratio at the end. Less trimming and better net yield.

Let's stay in touch; I'll send you a friend request and 'scribe to this thread. Best of luck to you
 
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incognegro999

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Topo said:
Right on man! I am a step ahead of you with the TD, and I must say stay on top of them. I've grown forever (35 years) and this strain is a little fickle. 'Not much margin for error.

Ninety percent of mine have the sativa genotype, which is great, because sativas are my favorite. To me, they always have a better bud-to-leaf ratio at the end. Less trimming and better net yield.

Let's stay in touch; I'll send you a friend request and 'scribe to this thread. Best of luck to you
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Cool. I'll be sure to let you know when I journal the next one. Would love to have a veteran grower chime in on my grow. Sativa's are def my favorite as well, prefer the energetic feeling to the fuck I cant get off the couch feeling.
 
gottit14

gottit14

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Really cuz i have 14 plants under a 400 w hps and i have been reading all over that isnt enough light. The og seem to be growing tall and the other kind is growing bushy and short. The og have new big leaves and everything is growing fast. The other question is i have the two bigger plants on the outside and wonder if yhey should be closer to the light since they will yield more and are they to far away from the light now? Do you need a better pic to determine
 
odlaw

odlaw

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just cause they ar taller doesnt mean they will yeid more maybe they are sativa dom and the others are indica
try tyin the taller ones down to keep tham at the same hieght
but yeah 400w seems a lil small for 14 plants
 
mazand1982

mazand1982

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gottit14 said:
how do these plants look i need some opinions please
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the plants look good but IMO they look a little bit wispy, i run just 4 plants under a 400 and it yields big time, then again, to each his own, 14 will produce but maybe not as big as u might think/want
 
mazand1982

mazand1982

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heres a little update on mine...400 watt hps for flower, MH for veg, FF ocean forest soil, flora nova nutes, what do u guys think?...medical grow, i need it for my chronic insomnia and appetite problems...the most recent pic is the blue venom next to the beer canIMG_20110401_073128.jpgIMG_20110401_073151.jpgIMG_20110328_214942.jpgIMG_20110323_193352.jpgIMG_20110327_200252.jpgIMG_20110328_214933.jpgIMG_20110326_124357.jpgIMG_20110323_195947.jpg
 
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Cubieman

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View attachment 1527504View attachment 1527500View attachment 1527503View attachment 1527502View attachment 1527501View attachment 1527499View attachment 1527498First grow/build. 2 plants (wanted 3). Both were free seeds from Attitude so I thought I would try those before the NL#5's I ordered. One strain is "Smile" and the other "White Domina". These pics are week 7 into flower.
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i know very little about autoflowering. how long did they take from seed to chop? or clone 2 chop. what was the average yield for plants that size?

super awesome pics bro, very helpfull for those challenged like i am.
 
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