400w Club-Show Off Your 400w Pride And Joy

bonz said:

just curious because i have had hot spot issues if it`s not flat and smooth. but if it works

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Yea it actually works pretty well. No hotspots and it keeps the walls cool, not as reflective as Mylar but really good.

Dr.K

Here are some pics from my 400w bagseed grow!



I'm about three and half weeks in!


These are all from side stalks too! I can't wait until they all fill in!!!

I've used a 400w HPS for 2 grows and I'm in my third now with a DWC setup, the first 2 being soil grows. Here are some pics. Oh and the first was bagseed off some good shit. The second grow is another bagseed with a Burmese x FI aka "420" that my friend brought back from one of the seed shops. The third setup "in right now" is clones of the 420 and I just picked up some Blueberry clones "hoping they will take here soon" from a friend.

Looks nice as shit! On the dwc do you use anyhing to bring the water up to the medim or do u just use the whispers and air stones 24hours? and does that tape keep all the light out?

HydroChron said:

Looks nice as shit! On the dwc do you use anyhing to bring the water up to the medim or do u just use the whispers and air stones 24hours? and does that tape keep all the light out?

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No I haven't used anything to bring the water up to the medium other than... more water in the rubbermaids. And yes I do run my air pumps 24/7. The tape seems to do the trick since I haven't noticed much for algae growing in the them and I do regular changes where I switch out the bottoms every week and clean out the old used resevoir.

Wow, you guys have some amazing plants! I especially love the purple ones, I have got to get me some of that shit.

Here's my first grow ever, it's just some bag seed from some random bag I had sometime over the last year. I vegged it for 3 weeks and I'm now into the 8th week of flowering. I'm pretty sure this will be an 8 weeker so I hope to harvest next weekend. I'll be suprised if I don't get 2oz off this thing dried but I'll be happy with 1.5.

I'm really shocked at how big the main cola is. I know it's not Amsterdam huge but for some dude growing bag seed in his closet with a 400W HPS, it's not bad.



I cut a lot of smaller branches as it was flowering; if they weren't performing as well as the other branches. Because of that the plant was able to focus its energy into the higher performing branches and now these lower branches are so heavy they can barely hold themselves up. Now I know about super cropping so I do just the light pinch thing to strengthen limbs so I won't have that problem in the future.




I've ordered White Widow and Bubble Gum knock off seeds (not the original breeders) from marijuana-seeds.nl and hope to have those going next week. No more bag seed weed for me!

what do you meen kniock off seeds. what does he call them

here are a few from my 400 watt mh i dont have a hps but the mh seems to work fine for me.

how far along are you?

i picked this one 2 weeks ago it's hard to tell how long i leave em in flower for i do the add 2 every 2 weeks and pick 2 every 2 weeks method
here is another one it smells grapy as hell

You see, I've got the space, and the drive to go HPS, but I'm just SCARED. How do I tie into the exhaust fan already existing in my bathroom? How do I compensate for the extra power usage??? I'm thinking of going HPS only for flowering, going on what I've read. I've had great success Veging with CPL, but on my first flowering, I'm a bit upset at the small size of the buds so far. I see these guys with buds bigger than coke cans, and...man... my buds are about 2" each, but I have over 20 on a single plant.
Do I want 1-2 big ass buds, or 20 small ones???
Plus, I live near an airport...do I want some fancy radar picking up my growroom??
These are the things keeping me from joining your club. Hopefully, I will be able to overcome them, and enjoy the success you guys have!

eclipsespilce said:

You see, I've got the space, and the drive to go HPS, but I'm just SCARED. How do I tie into the exhaust fan already existing in my bathroom? How do I compensate for the extra power usage??? I'm thinking of going HPS only for flowering, going on what I've read. I've had great success Veging with CPL, but on my first flowering, I'm a bit upset at the small size of the buds so far. I see these guys with buds bigger than coke cans, and...man... my buds are about 2" each, but I have over 20 on a single plant.
Do I want 1-2 big ass buds, or 20 small ones???
Plus, I live near an airport...do I want some fancy radar picking up my growroom??
These are the things keeping me from joining your club. Hopefully, I will be able to overcome them, and enjoy the success you guys have!

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dont be scared to go w/ a hps set-up the 400 watters are'nt bad at all i have a 400 watt MH, 3 fans, a few cfl's in my clone room and a 175 watt mh for veg room and my electric bill only went up like $25.
as far as the buds go they may just need to flower longer maybe they're not ready yet? when they start to swell they blow up pretty quick

sleeper05 said:

No I haven't used anything to bring the water up to the medium other than... more water in the rubbermaids. And yes I do run my air pumps 24/7. The tape seems to do the trick since I haven't noticed much for algae growing in the them and I do regular changes where I switch out the bottoms every week and clean out the old used resevoir.

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That is such a good idea to switch out the rubbermaids. And thank you for letting me know about the dwc cause i am about to do something similar using two buckets and i dont want to top feed, i would rather just use the air pump and not have to get a submersible one. do you fill the water all the way to the bottom of the netpot in early veg?

If you are cloning you want the water to be into the rockwool so that the aerated water can get in there. Here's a pic of some clones that I'm going to keep as mothers. I just use an old bucket that's about 1.5 gal. Cut holes for the pots in the lid and wrapped it in black duct tape. I only run a single mini aquarium pump into the top as well. This is in a closet that's beside my bed it never seems to keep me awake. I use to keep it in my kitchen cause it's really the only place with decent sun light. I now keep it under 4 - 4' veg. florecents.

so the tube going down into the medium is going down to the air stones in the res right?

ya that's completely right. bubbleponics just seemed like the way to go for right now.

I have thought about getting a fogger for my setups in the basement where I could lower the water level and run the fogger in a seperate tub but pipe it into the bottoms of the rubbermaids to "fog" the lower roots and still keep the fog contained.

My next step is going to be purchasing an inline fan and making a cool tube for my 1000w HPS light that just sits around right now because i know it'll make too much heat for my plants.

I've also been trying to think of a way to run a vertical grow but still have it be like bubbleponics.

yea that will def be a challenge. the bubbleponics the they sell at stealthhydro use a water delivery system that has a submersible but that to me wouldnt be true bubbleponics. ya know? also if you ever run into light leak problems with your rubbermiads i have found that it works reall well to spray the outside with a flat black spray paint while it have the lid on it. spray it really well before you cut your holes and make sure that u r careful not to get any inside. That once it is coated let it dry all the way and then cover it will you choice color tape. White would be best to reflect heat. And since you coverd the paint with the tape it wont come off but still works as a COMPLETE light blocker. Works great with light leaking on bucket setups. Or just could just find black tubs but that is easier said then done, ive looked

I looked at that bubbleponics rubbermaid by stealthydro and that's what gave me the idea to raise the water. Cause really as long as you're putting the air into the water the roots will take it all. I thought there had to be a gap where there could be roots at the top of the bucket to receive air while the bottom ones would take in the nutes. They were growing fine that way but i'm always open to try new things so i raised the water... we'll see what happens. Really by doing this I'm able to add more nutes to the rez but still keeping the ppm the same = more for the plants. The last change I was at only about 10gal and now I brought it to about 13gal.

That's a really good idea about the paint and then being able to put white tape on there. I will look into doing that because I always have one extra rez for my next weeks change out. I could paint it this week and then tape it up white. I've looked for the black colored ones as well I know what ya mean.

yea ive found that instead of going to every store that "might" have black buckets or tubs, its better to do it this way. They white tape is key though becuase the paint will chip if put under stress. but once the tape is there is there to seal it. i havent had an issue yet. I tried just painting it, before i thought about taping and learned my lesson. I am about to do that same thing your doing only with buckets. im gonna do one top water feed and one "bubbleponics" the real way. no water delivery system, just bubbles. And see which does better and/or the defferences in the two.

so im thinking of running my exhaust from my hood into the attic...any feedback on whether or not i should cut a hole in my cieling...? 2'x4'x8' closet, 160 cfm fan...oh yea and would a dimmer switch be a good speed control? noise wouldnt be too much of an issue cuz i wanna thro the fan in the attic at the end of the run. lemme know ur thots...