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Beachwalker

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danjac82 said:
its been curing for 1-3 weeks now depending on plant. Hung dried about week to ten days. It feels like a buzz wants to come through. Ive caught myself squinting a bit just to simulate being high. It’s kind of pathetic. I’ll put it like this. I’ve had premature bud from Mexican brick swag seeds cut off the plant, out into oven for quick dry and it kicks the shit out of this jack 47, blue widow..etc. I know it must sound strange and it is. Feels like a curse. First plant..I thought..ok it will get better. Seconds plant the same...and it just kept going. Indistinguishable slight buzzes from strains that should have different highs
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Sorry about your bad luck but this is fairly common. I'm in a thread like this now trying to tell people who think this current weed is so good about the weed we had in the mid-80s & the mid-70s, no comparison. I feel exactly the way you do I've got a few plants that are pretty good that I try to keep running but the best is nowhere near even the average stuff we had 25-30 years ago

https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-is-the-strain-to-grow-right-now-from-seed.984613/page-3#post-14748220

I ran Cali Connection la og Affie and a white rhino X mazar which had some strength, I've enjoyed Barney's Farm 8-Ball Kush too, and I've had good luck with a remo chemo recently as well, but the rest are just eh.. :/
 
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danjac82

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I will say that there are some clear on most of these buds. Just got the loop out. I admit I got lazy and made wrong assumptions on these buds but they should be stronger as I’ve smoked much earlier weed before. Most of the plants are mostly cloudy. One thing I will say that I’ve never noticed before. The trich development was slow. I mean it frosted fast on all plants for the most part but they stayed clear until week 9-10..not the usual pattern and these were all supposed 8-9 weekers. Used pretty small pots for bigger plants this time. Calyxes swelled and pistils receded and buds would get the finished look but crystals still clear. Never saw this before. Always when the buds get that plump look with all calyx swoll and all red receding pistils, the trichs are further along. These fuckers just stayed clear. Some Plants held on to there wasn’t a green leaf left and the crystals barely had gone cloudy. Had just got them to cloudy and chop. Such a weird stall. The blue widow was fast and swelling at 45 days with receding pistols. Looked done with fox tailed and fully filled out at 56. All clear trich. Took almost two more weeks til they started turning. Such a stall. Maybe the small pots?
 
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danjac82

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Beachwalker said:
Sorry about your bad luck but this is fairly common. I'm in a thread like this now trying to tell people who think this current weed is so good about the weed we had in the mid-80s & the mid-70s, no comparison. I feel exactly the way you do I've got a few plants that are pretty good that I try to keep running but the best is nowhere near even the average stuff we had 25-30 years ago

https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-is-the-strain-to-grow-right-now-from-seed.984613/page-3#post-14748220

I ran Cali Connection la og Affie and a white rhino X mazar which had some strength and I've had good luck with a remo chemo recently as well, but the rest are just eh..
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Best quality I’ve had and grown was Ace Seeds Kali China which is Kali mist x indica China yunnan. True 9 week full finish and I mean complete finish. Short hash plant type growth pattern but buds are clean sativa high. Feel good all day smoke. Impressive sativa vibe for such a quick finish and short plant. A special girl. Mango and creamy minty. I want to run it again cause it was 3 for 3 winners on the 3 girls. Blew the other strains next to it out of the water. Very stable and inbred to an f6 I believe now. I want to run her but paranoid about fems cause cracking ovules. That’s problem began with the fems but could very well be some unidentifiable stress that I can’t see in them
 
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promedz

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danjac82 said:
Best quality I’ve had and grown was Ace Seeds Kali China which is Kali mist x indica China yunnan. True 9 week full finish and I mean complete finish. Short hash plant type growth pattern but buds are clean sativa high. Feel good all day smoke. Impressive sativa vibe for such a quick finish and short plant. A special girl. Mango and creamy minty. I want to run it again cause it was 3 for 3 winners on the 3 girls. Blew the other strains next to it out of the water. Very stable and inbred to an f6 I believe now. I want to run her but paranoid about fems cause cracking ovules. That’s problem began with the fems but could very well be some unidentifiable stress that I can’t see in them
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your still getting them tiny seeds? thats definitely not from fem seeds im almost done with this run and no ovules swole or no cracking nothing.. your definitely overlooking something your doing or they had to be shit strains i dont like dinafem ive grown a few diff that didnt do anything for me.. but how can all 4 of them not get you baked>? shit what are you doing>?
 
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Couch_Lock

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Beachwalker said:
Sorry about your bad luck but this is fairly common. I'm in a thread like this now trying to tell people who think this current weed is so good about the weed we had in the mid-80s & the mid-70s, no comparison. I feel exactly the way you do I've got a few plants that are pretty good that I try to keep running but the best is nowhere near even the average stuff we had 25-30 years ago

https://www.rollitup.org/t/what-is-the-strain-to-grow-right-now-from-seed.984613/page-3#post-14748220

I ran Cali Connection la og Affie and a white rhino X mazar which had some strength, I've enjoyed Barney's Farm 8-Ball Kush too, and I've had good luck with a remo chemo recently as well, but the rest are just eh.. :/
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I can honestly say todays weed generally is better then what was available on the East Coast of the USA in the 70's........once in awhile I had Thai Stick or Maui Wowie and that shit was comparable to todays best strains. But the other 85-90% of what was available back then WAS NOT as good as todays.
 
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growingforfun

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What does crackling bud mean? The pictures wont load for me but I'm assuming you made some mistakes along the way... did you say how many total watts your using and what your airflow is like? Do you have enough fans moving air? Temps?

I kinda think that since cfl growing is so differant to hps growing you just need to adjust your style a little bit...
Hps absolutely grows fantastic bud, that isnt the issue, so it's probably a environmental issue. Even subpar genetics should have some better results than what you described... for your next run I'd make sure your using 1000 watt eye hortilux super hps bulbs. Hopefully you wernt using something horribly underpowered like a 250 watt or worst... some <100 watt hardware store hps. That's kind of my first fear since you say your a cfl grower..
 
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danjac82

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charface said:
You didn't mention your temps.
Im sure you didn't burn off thc but you could have gotten too terps n other goodies.

I know it sounds crazy but I can't think
Of anything else right now
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Temps stayed a pretty constant mid 70s day and night. I think the last few weeks may have been a bit warmer at lights out than lights a few nights here and there. Usually it’s the opposite.
 
danjac82

danjac82

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promedz said:
your still getting them tiny seeds? thats definitely not from fem seeds im almost done with this run and no ovules swole or no cracking nothing.. your definitely overlooking something your doing or they had to be shit strains i dont like dinafem ive grown a few diff that didnt do anything for me.. but how can all 4 of them not get you baked>? shit what are you doing>?
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Man I wish I knew. The ovules just won’t stop but atleast the weed was fire before. Now it’s all junk when I finally decide to get an hps. Here’s a few girls 25 days in flower. Large ovules in the brachts already. I can’t already tell what it’s gonna be. Temps are good. Air flow is good. No deficiencies. Fuck man..what the hell is going on. Here’s the three girls I just snapped pic before lights off. The other plants are under the hps. They look good. I don’t get it.900978E6-A1EF-4778-8B73-71C6A4379423.jpegC2F0BC4D-90E4-4EA2-A333-2C9684C8610D.jpeg4E237FBF-D1AC-4895-BC4B-D88AA7B8CBA6.jpeg
 
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danjac82

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As I get better and better at maintaining healthy plants..the finished product crackles more and now losing quality with many strains I’m trying. Got it to where the leaves always pray pretty much. From start to finish of the day. Happy green praying leaves but somehow I’m stressing them and it’s not showing..somehow I’m ending up with these god damn big ovules that mess it all up grow after grow. I’m tired of this shit. You’d just have to see how it plays out with these plants first hand. I swear they’re not seeds and happen whether a plant isn’t pollinated or not. They shit all over the party. This was some extra money for me for a while. That’s been downhill and now nonexistent this harvest. I won’t even try. I’ll suffer through it and smoke it all
 
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danjac82

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growingforfun said:
What does crackling bud mean? The pictures wont load for me but I'm assuming you made some mistakes along the way... did you say how many total watts your using and what your airflow is like? Do you have enough fans moving air? Temps?

I kinda think that since cfl growing is so differant to hps growing you just need to adjust your style a little bit...
Hps absolutely grows fantastic bud, that isnt the issue, so it's probably a environmental issue. Even subpar genetics should have some better results than what you described... for your next run I'd make sure your using 1000 watt eye hortilux super hps bulbs. Hopefully you wernt using something horribly underpowered like a 250 watt or worst... some <100 watt hardware store hps. That's kind of my first fear since you say your a cfl grower..
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Cracking like tiny seeds but they’re not seeds. They are the ovules but just too big. They don’t shrink down like normal when not pollinated. They’re present in each and every calyx. Small penhead sized speck. Green when young and brownish by week 5 or so in many calyxes. I know from checking. They never grow in size, in fact..they shrink as they darken but just don’t shrink enough. If you break up a bud and look close, they’re everywhere. Some of them crackle and taste not like a seed but similar kinda smell maybe a bit. It just throws the bud off. The hps is 600 watt hydrofarm. Can’t remember the bulb brand. I’ve been eying Hortilux super hps. You use this alone in flower with good result? Btw..temps were mid 70s steady for the most part and nice breeze going through the plants and across the light. I honestly can’t say I could have done much better visually. Green happy praying leaves and they just looked great. Did have an issue with trichomes taking forever to change cloudy. Buds would be exploded and done looking with all pistils red and receded with all swoll calyx. Looked done as done can be until you get close. Clear trichs like I’ve never saw when buds looked totally finished by structure. Weeks went on with clear like this on many plants...up to the point I had to chop some because all fan leaves had died and bud leaves were getting a little yellow. Slowest trich change I’ve ever saw. Did grow 3-4 foot plants with 4-5 main colas in only 2 gallon pots. Don’t know how that would affect finish but idk..maybe. I never did get much amber really. They just wouldn’t change
 
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growingforfun

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danjac82 said:
Cracking like tiny seeds but they’re not seeds. They are the ovules but just too big. They don’t shrink down like normal when not pollinated. They’re present in each and every calyx. Small penhead sized speck. Green when young and brownish by week 5 or so in many calyxes. I know from checking. They never grow in size, in fact..they shrink as they darken but just don’t shrink enough. If you break up a bud and look close, they’re everywhere. Some of them crackle and taste not like a seed but similar kinda smell maybe a bit. It just throws the bud off. The hps is 600 watt hydrofarm. Can’t remember the bulb brand. I’ve been eying Hortilux super hps. You use this alone in flower with good result? Btw..temps were mid 70s steady for the most part and nice breeze going through the plants and across the light. I honestly can’t say I could have done much better visually. Green happy praying leaves and they just looked great. Did have an issue with trichomes taking forever to change cloudy. Buds would be exploded and done looking with all pistils red and receded with all swoll calyx. Looked done as done can be until you get close. Clear trichs like I’ve never saw when buds looked totally finished by structure. Weeks went on with clear like this on many plants...up to the point I had to chop some because all fan leaves had died and bud leaves were getting a little yellow. Slowest trich change I’ve ever saw. Did grow 3-4 foot plants with 4-5 main colas in only 2 gallon pots. Don’t know how that would affect finish but idk..maybe. I never did get much amber really. They just wouldn’t change
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I've been using hps for about 10 years. More cycles than I can count.

I think your picking apart the bud too much, in a very literal way. Sounds like you need to relax and turn up the lights to me. I've never had that issue, but I've heard of that from other people who start ripping into buds and looking for seeds.

A big key to growing to to relax and let them grow.

I dont think your using enough light, from your last pics the plants look small and spindly.

Look into using the scrog method to train the plants and use the light from HPS better.
 
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promedz

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danjac82 said:
Man I wish I knew. The ovules just won’t stop but atleast the weed was fire before. Now it’s all junk when I finally decide to get an hps. Here’s a few girls 25 days in flower. Large ovules in the brachts already. I can’t already tell what it’s gonna be. Temps are good. Air flow is good. No deficiencies. Fuck man..what the hell is going on. Here’s the three girls I just snapped pic before lights off. The other plants are under the hps. They look good. I don’t get it.View attachment 4283367View attachment 4283368View attachment 4283369
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They do look good so let’s brake it down.. where do you order from?
What do you feed from start to finish?
How do you harvest and dry?
Next run don’t look at any ovules!
100 percent no light leaks!
 
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StareCase

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Charface just touched on THC vs CBD so I won't touch that again.

Assuming high THC, if your plants ended up about 4' tall, a 2 gallon bucket is a too small for that size. Go to a 5 gallon bucket - at a minimum - if you are gonna grow them that big. They may have "died on the vine"

Bigger roots = better fruits.
 
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danjac82

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growingforfun said:
I've been using hps for about 10 years. More cycles than I can count.

I think your picking apart the bud too much, in a very literal way. Sounds like you need to relax and turn up the lights to me. I've never had that issue, but I've heard of that from other people who start ripping into buds and looking for seeds.

A big key to growing to to relax and let them grow.

I dont think your using enough light, from your last pics the plants look small and spindly.

Look into using the scrog method to train the plants and use the light from HPS better.
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Lol..I hear you. I wish I could stop picking the bud apart. I started doing it after noticing the crackle. The crackle isn’t normal and I’d pay a thousand dollars right now if the weed gods would make it go away. No bullshit. Lol. About the light intensity. This last grow was the most intensity I’ve gotten before and it just didn’t pan out for whatever reason. I’ve grown cfl for years so you already know I was lacking intensity but the bud quality was killer compared to this..in fact, some of it was right up there with the higher end stuff we get around here. Plants were even more spindly before this crop. The ones in the pic were vegged under t5 and cfl. Have others flowering under hps. So here’s the thing, if it’s about intensity then why were my more airy cfl buds much more potent? I mean it’s not a 1000 water I’m dealing with now but there was a plant that stayed right under it at about away for the entirety of flower. It was lit up like the Fourth of July and biggest densest buds I’ve grown to date. No quality. I get what you’re saying but if it’s about intensity I’d expect the evidence to show that. Hate to say the cfl kicked the hps ass. Has to be a reason
 
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danjac82

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The spindly looking plants area the jack 47..sativa dominant and known to grow tall and stretch so looks worse than it is. I think I controlled the height quite well. Last run was a bit stretchier that I just harvested but the plants held their own without support. For me a good harvest weight. Flipped at 38 days from seed and got over 3 ounces a piece from the jacks and nearly three from the dinachem. For me that’s real good. Blue widow and cheese around 2 per
growingforfun said:
I've been using hps for about 10 years. More cycles than I can count.

I think your picking apart the bud too much, in a very literal way. Sounds like you need to relax and turn up the lights to me. I've never had that issue, but I've heard of that from other people who start ripping into buds and looking for seeds.

A big key to growing to to relax and let them grow.

I dont think your using enough light, from your last pics the plants look small and spindly.

Look into using the scrog method to train the plants and use the light from HPS better.
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