303's Summit Grow Journal (9,500 ft altitude) Medicinal Grow

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kingofqueen said:
Looking good ! Did you decide on a PH meter yet?
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Unexpected expenses came up, I really want one though. It sucks using the vial and test kit before feeds, and I have no idea what ph my runoff is... Theres no way of telling with the ph up/down test kit..
Anyway...Clones transplanted. And flowering right along..





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Think I'm beginning to have a Calcium or Potassium def... better switch to mid bloom nutrients....
 
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Anyone have a thread on understanding NPK.
My bottom leaves are beginning to yellow. Meaning I need some N. But all bloom ferts generally lack N completely. Why? If its turning yellow I should give it some N right? Also I think the above photo showing Calcium def... ? So.. that said next feed maybe give it a little dose of N, as well as Cal Mag and a hint of bloom fert? I'm clearly confused...
Also, just thought of something...... I use Brita filtered water. Is this removing calcium and other helpful minerals????
 
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Not getting too much help here... Leafs are worsening.. Maybe hydro store guy can help...?
 
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I was just scoping your pics out . What flowering nutrient are you using? Any other additives ? I have some suggestions but need to know what your using , forgive me if you already mentioned it and I missed it.
 
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I was just scoping your pics out . What flowering nutrient are you using? Any other additives ? I have some suggestions but need to know what your using , forgive me if you already mentioned it and I missed it.
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Aurora's Buddah Bloom. Very light dose. 1/4TSP a gallon every other feed. Hasn't had any in about 9 days though. Last watering was just ph'd water with 1/4 tsp of superthrive b1 vitamin supplement. Its not bugs, I've 30x scoped it.
 
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The Budda Big Bloom does have some low NPK numbers . N defeciency starts from the lower to mid level of plant and spreads up. I have been pushing the limits with my nutrient . I started out with low dose and worked my way up no burn yet and no deficiency . I,d chunk that super thrive it can fuck your plants up . A 1/4 teaspoon of ST is alot , when I use it I only use 1 drop per gallon . Less is more .

Brita filters remove chlorine oder , and some particulate . From what I have learned of here there are two major supplements not to be ignored that will keep you out of trouble . A good cal/mag supplement and some Liquid Karma . I can't afford it right now but I will use these next grow.Another thing you could consider is foliar feeding your leaves to make up for deficencys . I tryed it because my new growth was pale in color after foliar feeding they greened right up . I'd definatly try upping your dose of nutes . My dry time is about 2 days and I have been hitting them hard with no problems I,m using Age OLds organic nutrient no burn yet .
 
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kingofqueen said:
The Budda Big Bloom does have some low NPK numbers . N defeciency starts from the lower to mid level of plant and spreads up. I have been pushing the limits with my nutrient . I started out with low dose and worked my way up no burn yet and no deficiency . I,d chunk that super thrive it can fuck your plants up . A 1/4 teaspoon of ST is alot , when I use it I only use 1 drop per gallon . Less is more .

Brita filters remove chlorine oder , and some particulate . From what I have learned of here there are two major supplements not to be ignored that will keep you out of trouble . A good cal/mag supplement and some Liquid Karma . I can't afford it right now but I will use these next grow.Another thing you could consider is foliar feeding your leaves to make up for deficencys . I tryed it because my new growth was pale in color after foliar feeding they greened right up . I'd definatly try upping your dose of nutes . My dry time is about 2 days and I have been hitting them hard with no problems I,m using Age OLds organic nutrient no burn yet .
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What do you recommend for bloom nutrients? I think your right on the superthrive. it just makes the ones in veg super happy I thought to give the ones in flower... Guess not.. I'm going to the hydro store tomorrow and pick up some kind of bloom nutrients... For the third week of flower I think I can step it up... Just don't know which product is best...? I still am unsure what def this may be....? But my guess from searching threads is a P or K def, but then I read other threads suggesting cal def..? wtf.. either way I need to step the nutes up.. I forgot to add this is the only plant showing these symptoms, and shes also ahead by far from the rest. The girth on her flowers is twice then the other two...? Maybe shes asking for more...
 
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That's what I,m thinking , just step up your does by a smidge each time you feed . Next grow I'm staying away from organics . I have been reading and seeing good results with Jacks Classic which is the same company Peter's fertilizer . There are some good threads on here with ppl using jacks , cal mag supplement and Liquid Karma some use a Silicone additive too .

Here,s a good link for plant problems >>>>http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=11688
And here's the Jacks >>>>http://www.jacksclassic.com/index.html

I 'll use the Jacks Dynamic duo next grow .
 
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I'm not sure what this could be?? Looks bad though

I'm thinking phosphorus... anyone have a better idea or confirm??
 
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I'm not sure what this could be?? Looks bad though

I'm thinking phosphorus... anyone have a better idea or confirm??
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After hours of searching threads I'd almost bet my life its a phosphorus def... I fed this morning heafty dose of nutrients.. Hoping she comes back. The leaves that are curling and papery I can cut off right? I don't see them coming back......
 
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So I cut away the fan leaves that looked withered and fed this morning and now she looks like this 6 hours later. Standing up towards the light means happy right?? :weed: Hoping this corrected what was wrong....:dunce:


Last pic is body shot, notice lower fan leaves drooping, top leaves standing stall. Can and should and can I benefit from cutting these? Perhaps to focus on the leaves standing up that are energy for the bud sites???

 
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Mite-rid worked great. I used 1tsp per gallon, smells like vicks vapor rub. Sprayed them with the stuff too. They don't seem to even care.. And no more gnats....for now..

Problem we had with this soil is there was actual fungus fly larva in the soil, so no matter how many times you sprayed them, they'd keep coming back because they'd come from the soil. My buddy said in his night cycle he green lit the room checked his stalks and there were fucking worms crawling up his plants.. Some nasty shit!! I think I got em though... MITE RID, everyone should have some!
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Try using sterilized professional potting soil that's mixed with at least 60/40 ratio of perlite (soil/perlite)
That shit don't come with no fungus gnats or their eggs. I had the same exact problem with Flower-shop "organic enriched soil"
Chuck that shit in the garbage they're always infected
Plants lookin reel nice and I haven't even gotten to page 6 yet :]
 
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lochem said:
Try using sterilized professional potting soil that's mixed with at least 60/40 ratio of perlite (soil/perlite)
That shit don't come with no fungus gnats or their eggs. I had the same exact problem with Flower-shop "organic enriched soil"
Chuck that shit in the garbage they're always infected
Plants lookin reel nice and I haven't even gotten to page 6 yet :]
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How do you mix your own soil? Thanks for stopping by and kind words.
 
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The soil my friend got was pre-mixed with the perlite. Sterilized so no insects (or so they claim-but I'll believe it)

You can mix your own perlite soil mix by preparing a large container or empty cooler, as long as you're measuring exactly as much soil as you are perlite. You can also mix 60/40 soil/perlite. How much total depends on the size of your pots.
You can even premix a bunch and keep it in a bag or some other container and it will be ready for use whenever you transplant or plant new seeds :)

Something to keep in mind when mixing the perlite is that it creates alot of dustin the air from the little balls mixing around, so make sure to do the mixing in a well ventilated area near a window or outdoors.

Perlite
Perlite creates space within the medium to allow for the roots to stretch easier and farther around the medium. It helps the soil drain well as well so you may need to water slightly more often than u were before using the perlite
 
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Whatever was wrong isn't anymore. Everyone looking really really good. Time to start looking into carbon filters..
Clones took liking to they're soil, they look better than my first runs for sure. New growth already. I had one that didn't root, I'm still hanging on as long as she is, we'll see if it'll ever root.I cut another tray of clones for my next run.. After those I'll look into new strains. Trying to "cycle" through the flower tent so I can harvest every 4 weeks or so, all completely legal, god bless America.. Here's photos..:bigjoint:


Grape Ape Flowering.. God she looks good. I have the light right on her...
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Its very quite in here.... Shall I continue posting...........?
 
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Looking yummy ! God I can't wait mine are just getting to it !

I'm looking into going soiless next grow . Fuck them gnats I still see one here or there .
 
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I've been watching. And I still think 3 is too many 1ks for that space :P

Overall, looks really good, though. May want to give it a pure water feed or two and then lower the additives a bit - forget what ya usin - to fix the problem.
 
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LiveHigh said:
I've been watching. And I still think 3 is too many 1ks for that space :P

Overall, looks really good, though. May want to give it a pure water feed or two and then lower the additives a bit - forget what ya usin - to fix the problem.
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3 too many? What are you talking about? Are you suggesting my 600 isn't enough for 3?
 
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3 too many? What are you talking about? Are you suggesting my 600 isn't enough for 3?
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Ah, I just skimmed back through the thread. Your problem is definitely pH related, if you got no pH meter. Would bet on it. And I thought you were running 3x 1000watts. I think 2x 1000 watts is perfect for your space from the looks of the pics - just would separate them a little more and take out middle one. Only saying cause it'd save you money, and I'm pretty damn sure your buds would come out just as good. If you're using 3x 600 watts, though, that's one thing.
 
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