30 amp dryer outlet, electrian help needed

sleeperls93

sleeperls93

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How am i wrong?? All is suggested was that he eliminate the dryer ouitlet, and use the fucking 10-03 as a split circuit; he could do that by replacing that 30 amp 220 breaker, with two single 20 amp breakers; how is this fucking wrong? If your going to add something go ahead, but don't try to make me look like a jacka ss!!
 
sleeperls93

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kingme said:
a light for residential can not be placed on a 30 amp breaker unless its rated for it. These 1000 watt lts we use do not cut it. It will cause a fire if somthing were to fail. Trust me when i say this that the circuit breaker is our only line of defense. I did not mean to insult anyone here or make enemies but, Electricity is so dangerous and i dont want to see somone read this shit a year from now and think they can do it. And you all know that people will take some of these words as gold. I dont want to see somone loose a child or loose a father because somone gave bad advice on electricity.
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Sorry if I get a little heated, your right, no residential light can be put on a 30 amp breaker, but were talking about a 1000watt ballast with a dedicated line.... so 20 should be the limit for this homerun?? I did say to use 20 amp breakers, right?? If i suggested to use a 30, shame on me, all you could of said was, dont use the 30 amp breaker use the 20.... but your right, because this is nserious...
 
kingme

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sleeperls93 said:
Wtf are you talking about? there is a neutral, it's a 10-3, I'm not wrong!!
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i stand corrected. You are right 2 hots a ground and a neutral. But he doesnt have that im sure of it. He has a 3 prong. so its 2 hots and a ground. He doesnt have a 4 wire. Thats what i thought u were refering to bro. I stand corrected. if in fact he did have a 10-3 he would be set. But i doubt it. in my house i have 8-2 ran. Bare alum ground.
 
kingme

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sleeperls93 said:
How am i wrong?? All is suggested was that he eliminate the dryer ouitlet, and use the fucking 10-03 as a split circuit; he could do that by replacing that 30 amp 220 breaker, with two single 20 amp breakers; how is this fucking wrong? If your going to add something go ahead, but don't try to make me look like a jacka ss!!
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he doesnt have a 4 wire system. its just a 3 wire.
 
sleeperls93

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I respect others with more experience, I know I can only learn from people like you... but I do actually take pride in the work I do, and If I'm not sure about somethimg, I'll stop that job and make sure I get it right... I apologize if I insulted you in any way...
 
kingme

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hey dude, were one team here, lets just do it right. No hard feelings on this side, and feel free to ask me anything you ever may run into, im here to help. You just made a friend.
 
bird mcbride

bird mcbride

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I can see the advantages to the split circuit, then more 120vac outlets can be provided. I still cannot see any reason to alter the house wiring. Use a plug in.
 
sleeperls93

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how about a subpanel, you suggested that befor right??? I've always felt that a sub-panel would be the best way to go if your running more then 2k hids, it makes much safer and professional if you have dedicated circuits for things like ac's, dehumidifiers, and your lighting...
 
kingme

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sleeperls93 said:
That sux if its a 3 wire, lol... so it can only be a single circuit....
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yes this is true. but you can also do the subpanel and put a bunch of lights on it. thats why i said get a 30 amp sub panel. look at it this way.
if you got a sub panel with 8 breakers on it. you could put 3 1000 watt lights on it. you can do this because each light will be on its own 2-pole breaker. you could use 3 15 amp 2-pole breakers. and you be set. Now when using this sub panel with a main. You are going to be golden. because each breaker will be rated for each light. You dont know how good you got it. lol. 30 amps is alot of power bro. alot.
 
kingme

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Also dont foreget you can buy different grow room essentials that run 220. ac units,lights,pumps, alot of shit lol its going to cost a few bucks to get this up and going but you are lucky
 
sleeperls93

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kingme said:
hey dude, were one team here, lets just do it right. No hard feelings on this side, and feel free to ask me anything you ever may run into, im here to help. You just made a friend.
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Hey thanks bro!! Its cool that the forums have people like you ready help these guys out with there electrical; that's what I'm trying to do, make sure these guys don't blow up the neighborhood, lol..
 
kingme

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all he has is 2 hots and a ground. the new code now states in new construcion he needs the neutral. but when his house was constructed all they supplied was 2 hots and a ground.
 
sleeperls93

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kingme said:
all he has is 2 hots and a ground. the new code now states in new construcion he needs the neutral. but when his house was constructed all they supplied was 2 hots and a ground.
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Yup, that's true; an electrical inspector would make you update that "dryer line" to updated code.. but seriously, I wish I had 30 amps to play around with lol...
 
DrFever

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kingme said:
yes this is true. but you can also do the subpanel and put a bunch of lights on it. thats why i said get a 30 amp sub panel. look at it this way.
if you got a sub panel with 8 breakers on it. you could put 3 1000 watt lights on it. you can do this because each light will be on its own 2-pole breaker. you could use 3 15 amp 2-pole breakers. and you be set. Now when using this sub panel with a main. You are going to be golden. because each breaker will be rated for each light. You dont know how good you got it. lol. 30 amps is alot of power bro. alot.
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i ran two 1000 watts on 15 amp but new i was close to over load and trust me just clickin on a 40 watt light bulb on same breaker tripped me so i said fck it this is not good so i brought in a light plant and now run 480 i can run the hole block lol this also lights up an heats 4 green houses
 

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sleeperls93

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DrFever said:
i ran two 1000 watts on 15 amp but new i was close to over load and trust me just clickin on a 40 watt light bulb on same breaker tripped me so i said fck it this is not good so i brought in a light plant and now run 480 i can run the hole block lol
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Wow, how long did you 2k on that circuit for? That's way tro much, did you put in a new breaker atleast? have you seen this king, where breakers go bad and will stop tripping? They won't trip for overload or ashort circuit... that could be very dangerous, always make sure that your breakers are updated..
 
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