3 days on jack's 5-12-26 and the plants are loving it! Bye bye General Hydroponics forever
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TintEastwood
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Dang defs. I'm just starting to play with "Octopots".
I have never used hempys.
Curious how often do you feed them? Refill res? Top feed?
May be of some help.
"If you are watering once a day or once in three days the plants may be running low on a particular element in the nutrient solution, potentially for up to two days or more. You may never see a deficiency but the plant would be inhibited in its growth potential. If watering several times a day, all of the elements are renewed within a few hours so you can see these changes much quicker."
From here...
I have never used hempys.
Curious how often do you feed them? Refill res? Top feed?
May be of some help.
"If you are watering once a day or once in three days the plants may be running low on a particular element in the nutrient solution, potentially for up to two days or more. You may never see a deficiency but the plant would be inhibited in its growth potential. If watering several times a day, all of the elements are renewed within a few hours so you can see these changes much quicker."
From here...
.Smoke
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I top feed whenever the buckets feel light. They get filled 3/4 full with 1gal of water over 5 minutes before I let them drain. They need watering every 24hrs right now, but heavy drinkers later in flower may need fed every 12-16hr.
My 30gal rez will last at least 5 days under heavy feeding for a 4 plant setup.
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.Smoke
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@jonnynobody
So, fuck the weak sauce.
Seems like the people @ Jack's know their stuff.
Mg/Cal issues are clearing up, along with the foliage getting darker instead of the lime green color I've always seen when I switched to Jack's.
Not only are these "not fried", they finally seem to be flourishing.
Yet again @Renfro's advice is proving to be true...
So, fuck the weak sauce.
Seems like the people @ Jack's know their stuff.
Mg/Cal issues are clearing up, along with the foliage getting darker instead of the lime green color I've always seen when I switched to Jack's.
Not only are these "not fried", they finally seem to be flourishing.
Yet again @Renfro's advice is proving to be true...
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icetech
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Those look awesome 
I am a Jacks guy also... i keep PH between 6.0-6.4 and everything stays happy.. although i'm lazy and never check EC.. i have mixed the same nutes so many times into the same amount of water it's just habit
P.S. i use nothing but jacks from seed to chop (cept cal/mag of course) keep it simple
I am a Jacks guy also... i keep PH between 6.0-6.4 and everything stays happy.. although i'm lazy and never check EC.. i have mixed the same nutes so many times into the same amount of water it's just habit P.S. i use nothing but jacks from seed to chop
(cept cal/mag of course) keep it simple jonnynobody
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That's an impressive turn around. I'll have to try out the higher ec when I make a fresh res tomorrow. Your results are spectacular after upping the ec. Are you still adding cal mag or just running the ec recommended by jack's? I'll come back in a few days with pics to see how it worked out on my end. Beautiful work sir.
rkymtnman
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what does you EC drop daily from 2.5ish?
.Smoke
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It's .2ec Calimagic, 2.2ec Jacks. I'm pretty sure I could get away without the Calimagic but things are looking up so I don't want to change anything atm.
I run DTW hempy, so it's 2.4ec every feeding.
rkymtnman
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duh. my bad. i forgot the smoke buckets.
man, my leaves would probably melt if i ran that high. i can get tip burn on smaller plants at like 0.3.
weird. it's gotta be my elevation up here.
.Smoke
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Yes
jonnynobody
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I just ran through some jack's threads from a ways back and a common theme with people having issues has been low ec caused by failure to mix 321 at the ratios recommended by peters. I found quite a few that were making up their own recipes then adding 2 or 3 other products too. Then I found this thread below that was interesting. Grower switched to 321 from the flora series and mixed at the ratios as directed on the bag. His ec was 2.2 and he couldn't understand why his plants weren't burning and actually looked happier than before the switch.
Why are my plants not burning ......
I recently switched from GH Flora series to Jack's 321 after watching a GreenGeene's Garden video. If I ran GH over 1.8 EC on a 3ft plant in flower, it would start to show a little burning. With Jack's I'm starting at 2.2 EC from rooted clone and have no burn. Why is that?
www.rollitup.org
I was so stoked about your results I mixed up a gallon of 321 following the directions on the peters web site at 3.7/2.5/1.1
jrpeters12345
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My ppm hit 1000 almost on the head and the ph came out to 5.8 on the money. 1st time I haven't had to add ph up since using jack's. I watered 1 plant just so I can see how she looks in the morning. If it looks like your girls I'll mix my res tomorrow the same way and post some pics. Who'da thunk following directions would yield positive results?
.Smoke
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Let us know how it turns out.I just ran through some jack's threads from a ways back and a common theme with people having issues has been low ec caused by failure to mix 321 at the ratios recommended by peters. I found quite a few that were making up their own recipes then adding 2 or 3 other products too. Then I found this thread below that was interesting. Grower switched to 321 from the flora series and mixed at the ratios as directed on the bag. His ec was 2.2 and he couldn't understand why his plants weren't burning and actually looked happier than before the switch.
Why are my plants not burning ......
I recently switched from GH Flora series to Jack's 321 after watching a GreenGeene's Garden video. If I ran GH over 1.8 EC on a 3ft plant in flower, it would start to show a little burning. With Jack's I'm starting at 2.2 EC from rooted clone and have no burn. Why is that?www.rollitup.org
I was so stoked about your results I mixed up a gallon of 321 following the directions on the peters web site at 3.7/2.5/1.1
jrpeters12345
My ppm hit 1000 almost on the head and the ph came out to 5.8 on the money. 1st time I haven't had to add ph up since using jack's. I watered 1 plant just so I can see how she looks in the morning. If it looks like your girls I'll mix my res tomorrow the same way and post some pics. Who'da thunk following directions would yield positive results?
Snowback
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Can't be blamed too badly. So many of the companies recommend using way too much of their products. When one like Jack's is being honest, it can come as a surprise. (Green Planet is also one of the rare honest labels. I found that out in much a similar way as .Smoke did with Jack's).I just ran through some jack's threads from a ways back and a common theme with people having issues has been low ec caused by failure to mix 321 at the ratios recommended by peters. I found quite a few that were making up their own recipes then adding 2 or 3 other products too. Then I found this thread below that was interesting. Grower switched to 321 from the flora series and mixed at the ratios as directed on the bag. His ec was 2.2 and he couldn't understand why his plants weren't burning and actually looked happier than before the switch.
Why are my plants not burning ......
I recently switched from GH Flora series to Jack's 321 after watching a GreenGeene's Garden video. If I ran GH over 1.8 EC on a 3ft plant in flower, it would start to show a little burning. With Jack's I'm starting at 2.2 EC from rooted clone and have no burn. Why is that?www.rollitup.org
I was so stoked about your results I mixed up a gallon of 321 following the directions on the peters web site at 3.7/2.5/1.1
jrpeters12345
My ppm hit 1000 almost on the head and the ph came out to 5.8 on the money. 1st time I haven't had to add ph up since using jack's. I watered 1 plant just so I can see how she looks in the morning. If it looks like your girls I'll mix my res tomorrow the same way and post some pics. Who'da thunk following directions would yield positive results?
.Smoke
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Thanks.Nice, i run around 1.8EC myself without much issue, glad you got it worked out
I'm running just a bit hotter than that on the Jack's. Around 1.9-2.0. The rest is from Calimagic, but I think that deficiency has got more to do with my recent switch from HPS to Led.
Rurumo
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A big reason why you see such drastically different results for different people is because a lot comes down to lighting intensity and VPD. Those PPMs might be perfect for one person, but they'll fry another person's plants. I had to increase my ppms when I switched to LED, and again when I started running higher temps/rh.