2c-b-FLY warnings!! (must read)

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Dude Chromulan... are u serious that you brought some of the same 2c-b fly that caused several deaths and hospitlizations?

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Yeah man, very serious. This is the same vendor in Denmark that has the dpt, which I'm pretty sure a few people from here have at least bought from him once or twice.

I was also thinking about the possibility of it being bromo-dragonfly, but I looked up the overdose symptoms of that and the people who survived extremely high doses just ended up tripping for about 4 days or so. These people who overdosed on this "2cbfly" didn't trip from it at all, making me think its just a bad synthesis.

Chromulan, first and foremost, my apologies if my first post seemed harsh. I'm not one for bullshitting, so I do mean this sincerely.

I am glad you got the report before things went poorly on your personal behalf... and yes, it is always sad to see a loss for anyone regardless of the situation, I just do not approve of some of the people who buy these RC's thinking they are play toys (not directed to you by any means).

RC Maniac said:

Getting a little harsh lately Shepj, hmmm?

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No sir.. I am very touchy on the research chemical subject at the moment. Please allow me to fill you in..

One of my best, of my best friends passed away roughly last week (and to the best of my knowledge) it was caused do to the use of a research chem.. we have been best friends since kindergartin, and as he is such a good friend of mine, I had no issue giving him all of my RC souces (a mistake I wish I could take back).

I do not make harsh posts with ill-intentions, I am just very hard on people when I convey my message (I do not mean to offend, it's just my way of getting a point across).

I don't want to see more people passing away from RC usage..

I do not mean to justify an assholish post by any means, that is an error on my behalf.. I simply wanted to fill you in on why the RC posts are a bit harsh.

shepj said:

One of my best, of my best friends passed away roughly last week (and to the best of my knowledge) it was caused do to the use of a research chem.. we have been best friends since kindergartin, and as he is such a good friend of mine, I had no issue giving him all of my RC souces (a mistake I wish I could take back).

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do you mind me asking which RC?

This is such sad news he was my favorite vendor. I'm glad I decided not to be a cheap ass and got 5grams of aMT instead of 1g

Dude... this vendor was offering all the exotic and illegal rc's... which brings alot of speculation into the matter!

and I am sad to hear SHEPJ... that one of your best buds died an early death due to a contaminated RC! My condolences go out to you and your buddy!

Hmmmm... so let me get this right Chromulan.

These peeps that brought this contaminated product didnt' even trip? I have to do some googling! Because if it wasnt some sort of rc or psychedelic... what in the world was it! I got news of this 2 days ago when I read information on erowid. Im going to try to find more articles... something in a newspaper!

shepj said:

Chromulan, first and foremost, my apologies if my first post seemed harsh. I'm not one for bullshitting, so I do mean this sincerely.

I am glad you got the report before things went poorly on your personal behalf... and yes, it is always sad to see a loss for anyone regardless of the situation, I just do not approve of some of the people who buy these RC's thinking they are play toys (not directed to you by any means).

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I'm not the one that complained about you being harsh, but i know where you're coming from. and I know you're not directing that towards me. I'm always as safe as can be, which is why i started this thread. I'm right there with you though, people who stupidly abuse drugs shouldn't have access to these chems, pure and simple.

I'm deeply sorry about your friend Shep. Its always sad to hear stories of this happening in the RC community. Do you know which RC was the cause?

ndangerspecimen101 said:

Hmmmm... so let me get this right Chromulan.

These peeps that brought this contaminated product didnt' even trip? I have to do some googling! Because if it wasnt some sort of rc or psychedelic... what in the world was it! I got news of this 2 days ago when I read information on erowid. Im going to try to find more articles... something in a newspaper!

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Yeah, thats what I've heard. I've tried finding newspaper articles over this, but nothing so far. From what i heard, its convulsions, allergic reactions, and no trip whatsoever.

he passed away from mephedrone (purity wasn't an issue in this case).. it had a bad reaction with him.. they aren't sure yet if it was an OD or if it was just a contributing factor.

Whew Shepj.... I was about to send the "vendor" a message about their purity and such. I was going to relate to him that I heard their was several deaths attributed to a rc known as 2c-b fly and I was worry of ordering now due to contaminated products. Yet, I remembered I cant ask questions relating to ingestion of product otherwise they wont send me any product. Its good I held back on that

i was concidering trying some of the RCs that are on the market these days, but ill be holding off untill im sure its better quality and noone has died from it

+reps for the heads up

what would you compare the effect to? lsd or pcp?

KaleoXxX said:

i was concidering trying some of the RCs that are on the market these days, but ill be holding off untill im sure its better quality and noone has died from it

+reps for the heads up

what would you compare the effect to? lsd or pcp?

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Its always better to be safe than sorry right?

2c-i and 2c-e which are the two main rc's that are being widely used in the RC scene are relatively safe when used in the right dosage. These chemicals wouldnt pose no threat mentally as much so as bodily. If you have an accurate mg scale and your in good health you shouldn't have nothing to worry about. The quality can always be tested in small amounts or in an EZ DRUG TEST... which in this case does not test for quality... but on purity to identify a certain compound.

any 2c is cloesly resembled to the effects of mdma/lsd/shrooms... dissociatives are far different compounds with opposite effects.

I still havent found any "direct articles" conveying deaths attributed to 2c-b fly...

Only found threads located on bluelight.ru which state that information... I wounder who posted this info... or how this information was retrieved: personally or through a local source?

I know for a fact that dancesafe.org test all pills by using GCMS? I wonder it they will test a capsule... as it might contain mdma, correct?

If so, this might be an easy and cost effective way of testing your product.

Right mates?

I may of totally overlooked this factor...

But let me get this right... the vendor who supplied to product is the one who died from the 18mg dose?

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I haven't found any direct articles either. Haven't really looked too hard though. Have heard first-hand accounts from 2 people who tripped with a 3rd, who died. Two took ~9mgs, one of which died, and the other took 4. The two who survived apparently tripped suuuper hard to the point where they didn't know anything that was going on. Each trip lasted roughly a day, give or take. There was severe vomiting reported from them as well as all the other symptoms listed so far.

ndangerspecimen101 said:

I may of totally overlooked this factor...

But let me get this right... the vendor who supplied to product is the one who died from the 18mg dose?

If this is the case... I am lost for words.......................-----------.....--------------..... ????

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Yes, the vendor died from his own product. I'm guessing that there were at least a couple people running the site though as it is still up and running.

KaleoXxX said:

i was concidering trying some of the RCs that are on the market these days, but ill be holding off untill im sure its better quality and noone has died from it

+reps for the heads up

what would you compare the effect to? lsd or pcp?

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As ndanger said, 2c-i and 2c-e are safe. 4-aco-dmt is another good one to try. I've never heard of anybody having any type of serious reaction to these. As long as you follow the dosages, nearly all the RC's are safe.

Chromulan said:

As ndanger said, 2c-i and 2c-e are safe. 4-aco-dmt is another good one to try. I've never heard of anybody having any type of serious reaction to these. As long as you follow the dosages, nearly all the RC's are safe.

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ya but think about it, chinese baby formula was considered safe until 6000 infants got sick cuz some asshole decieded to put that shit in there.


if anything this should be a lesson to the government not to make safe drugs illigal cuz people will find other more dangerous ways to get fucked up.

Chromulan said:

As ndanger said, 2c-i and 2c-e are safe. 4-aco-dmt is another good one to try. I've never heard of anybody having any type of serious reaction to these. As long as you follow the dosages, nearly all the RC's are safe.

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Chromulan... i'll be pm-ing you soon!!!

and "nearly all the rc's are safe?" Not sure what that means... but Mr Shulgin has manufactured as we know as the "magical half-dozen..." which are the most popularized and recreational substances he has concocted. I wouldn't go so far as calling them ALL safe... a few are worthy of experimenting with.. and some have nasty effects... not worth your chromosomes!

4-aco-dmt to put it bluntly is like taking shrooms in powder form... completetly identical chemical makeup.