2c-b-FLY warnings!! (must read)

Chromulan said:

Thank you, i'm trying to save some lives. I couldn't believe hearing about this the day after i had gotten 3 doses for me, all of which are 15+ mgs. Very scary stuff considering it could have been me or one of my friends.
This is a definate eye opener. Apparently the vendor in Denmark ordered all his chems from China and didn't test them(obviously) before he sent them out. I've heard a lot of reports about labs in China that will do a simple substitution of a chemical just because it is cheaper and it will end up ruining the product. Hopefully other vendors/people will learn from this.

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wont this possibly kill a lot of people? does anyone know how many bad doses were sold?

did u by some of the bad doses?

does that mean u would be dead right now if you were not well informed?

Big P said:

wont this possibly kill a lot of people? does anyone know how many bad doses were sold?

did u by some of the bad doses?

does that mean u would be dead right now if you were not well informed?

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Hopefully it won't kill anymore people, although it is a possibility considering 4 mgs killed somebody and most people take more than that. The amount of bad doses distributed is probably unknown. Its just the ones that were sent out to everybody within the last 5 or 6 days. This is one of the more rare RCs so not as many people would have it and I'm glad since this batch was bad.
Yeah, I got 60 mgs and yes, had I not been informed I too could have been front page news.

lmao.. Chromulan! Your a riot!

I would suppose that is him in the avatar... stupid question, after another ridiculous question! No.. reseach chemical would be opted for a prescription anytime soon or never in that matter. Mdma is barely becoming legal as a prescription.... and their is vast reseach proving that its safer than aspirin or riding a horse. Research chemicals are basically some form of drug or in this case a poweful psychedlic... which its molecular makeup has been changed slightly to variate it from its natural state as an amphetamine, phenethylamine, or tryptamine.

and... yes this will definitely bring rc's to the forefront of the news... and geez I have to order mine soon before they ban others like 2c-i or 2c-e.

Dude Chromulan... are u serious that you brought some of the same 2c-b fly that caused several deaths and hospitlizations?

and trust me.... the description of the death doesnt sound like a nice way to go out... not as sudden as a bullet in the head or a casual lethal injection. This pain could be agonizing for hrs... then total shut down body function.

My suggestion to anyone that is interesting in buying or trying an RC IS TO INVEST SOME SMARTS AND MONEY IN PREVETION PLANS SUCH AS THESE:

A couple of tools that will help better identify and quantify dosage:

Its best to purchase a test kit such as the EZ DRUG TEST KIT... which test for mdma, speed, cocaine, piperazines, 2c's, and DOC compounds. Therefore, if this product was tested... then the results would show that indeed this is not a 2c substance.... and maybe some less unknown rc that is much stronger. However, if their is some sort of bad synthesis or other unadulterate that was deadly... then maybe this was some sort of unforeseen occurence.

Don't be a dumbass and invest some dough in a reliable mg scale... preferrably an scale that weighs out to .0001 accuracy. Its always best to test your product at the 1mg dosage... as the product you receive may be a different chemical altogether and be much stronger... their are rcs out their that are very strong at those dosages, so be aware. If the chemical didnt manifest itself at those dosages... then slightly take more to see if it has any effect... its best to start low, then to have bad results medically.

Did a little research on BROMO DRAGONFLY.. and its slightly less potent than lsd... which could make for a good candidate that the drug was possibly bromo instead of 2cb-fly. I am eagerly awaiting the GCMS analysis!

However, bromo-dragonfly is explicitly illegal in SWEDEN and DENMARK.. therefore, it might of not been BROMO

why dont the people who sell these cemicals mix and dilute them in a lab so a single dose is not so tiny

i mean it makes it so dangerous, like say if a standard does is 5 mg why not crimp the chemical in 5mg pill doses and maybe add som filler to make it the size of a pill

Because then it implies that the product is being used for human comsumption, or the like. So selling in large quantities of pure powder is the most efficient, legitimate way of doing it. Thats not to say people don't make pills with filler and a perfect dose, actually tons do, and make lots and lots of money doing it to. But getting caught with a handfull of pills with 2c-i or methylone in them and your sure to get popped.

Peace

Mr.KushMan said:

Because then it implies that the product is being used for human comsumption, or the like. So selling in large quantities of pure powder is the most efficient, legitimate way of doing it. Thats not to say people don't make pills with filler and a perfect dose, actually tons do, and make lots and lots of money doing it to. But getting caught with a handfull of pills with 2c-i or methylone in them and your sure to get popped.

Peace

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Truly, couldn't have said it better myself.
But this person doesn't know what the Federal Analogue Act is and how it applies to these drugs.

Big P said:

why dont the people who sell these cemicals mix and dilute them in a lab so a single dose is not so tiny

i mean it makes it so dangerous, like say if a standard does is 5 mg why not crimp the chemical in 5mg pill doses and maybe add som filler to make it the size of a pill

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This is not in reference to you Big P:

Because if you're an idiot you die and we need more population control than we currently have.

Get a fucking milligram scale that is accurate if you dick with RC's end of fucking story.

Stop jumping on dosages of shit you've never tried (like people who read erowid and think they are a god), end of another story.

Stupid people do stupid shit, and have stupid shit happen to them.

Getting a little harsh lately Shepj, hmmm?

The only confirmed death was the vendor in Denmark.

The incidents in the U.S. are not yet confirmed.
As far as I can gather.

shepj said:

This is not in reference to you Big P:

Because if you're an idiot you die and we need more population control than we currently have.

Get a fucking milligram scale that is accurate if you dick with RC's end of fucking story.

Stop jumping on dosages of shit you've never tried (like people who read erowid and think they are a god), end of another story.

Stupid people do stupid shit, and have stupid shit happen to them.

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I dont do these chemicals just curious why the vendors dont make it safer, its one thing to get hi but its sad to see people die over gettin high, and not nessecarily cuz an idiot killed himself but they have family whos lives are effected too usually

but u guys are 100% right, if this keeps happening or it catches in the news people gonna fuck with your pipeline

A vendor should ALWAYS test their product. Like, a super scientific test to indentify the specific chemical. If I found out a vendor didn't do that, I'd never buy from them again.

Not to rain on your parade but most vendors don't test their products, unless they have the ability in lab, which many don't, they find it to much of a hassle to spend the upwards $800 and 3 days of testing before they find out their product is contaminated or a different substance entirely. They generally just believe the lab they receive from. So generally unless they are the producers, they're generally not going to have a definite product, I wouldn't be surprised if there are many pounds of mixed products being shipped from labs at any one time. Because lets face it 95% of the consumers that use these sites don't have the know how, nor the connections to get GC/MS(Gas cromotography and mass spectometry) and NMR(Nuclear Magnetic Resonance) tests done, besides the universities lab in my city, I wouldn't know where else to go.

Peace

It's sad but all too true. But I'd probably stop buying if it was revealed, likely through a death caused by contaminated product, that they didn't test.

Thanks for the heads up. Just saw the update on erowid. Hopefully this doesn't bring a bunch of heat to the scene.

It will. It always does.

Theres reports of hospitalizations at 1mg, this is some pretty toxic shit whatever it is.

It seems as if all the reports are from forum posts.
Nothing verifiable as of yet.
If someone does find something solid I'd love a link.