250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Id love to be able to SCROG like that... I just don't get it

What don't you get? I can help you.

Grazz - the green on your plants always seems "just right"...never too dark, never too light....jealous

Verde... basically you hang your trellis or screen or what-have-you. Then when the plant is tall enough you just weave the branches in and out???

after that I'm clueless

PersonalJesus said:

Verde... basically you hang your trellis or screen or what-have-you. Then when the plant is tall enough you just weave the branches in and out???

after that I'm clueless

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It's really simple. Here ya go bro. Me and verde can help you out with what you can't figure out. Once you get it figured out it's simple. You want to basically grow vertical until it hits the screen and then start training it under the screen so all the lower bud sites make an even canopy for your light spread. Shove it through a hole and then let it grow up 2-3" and then pull it back down and move one farther hole away. You want to make it as symmetric as you can.

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/515987-enter-scrog-scroggers-united-post.html

Hettyman said:

Grazz - the green on your plants always seems "just right"...never too dark, never too light....jealous

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Good camera maybe

I start bending a plant over early a day after every watering, to train it to the side. I let it grow horizontally, and let the lower branches get better light. This helps with stress, and lets the lower branches grow out enough to get light. Then once the stem is long enough to reach the edge of the pot I tie it down with zip ties.

Then I grow a large bush out basically until the branches get long. And once they are long enough I add a screen in. Which is plastic netting stretched over the canopy. I hook it up to my tent poles with zip ties.

Then the real tall branches get pushed to the outside, and the short ones go to the inside. And then I keep the height even like that. And I also tie individual branches down to my pot using zip ties, when they grow really big.

So the idea is that when one cola takes over and starts getting taller than the others, you push it further out so that it's even height with the rest of your flowers .

note this isn't 250w.

okay, okay... knowledge is power... I gots a baby G13 Haze that is looking prime to try this out. She is about 2 weeks old and ready to be topped for the first time.
heres a question: Roughly, how long are you guys vegging? Its gotta take some extra time to weave everything through and try and make sure its all an even canopy.
also, how many times do you guys top when you SCROG?

hypothetically speaking, of course

Hi verde, i did FIM her believe it or not lol, and she still stretched like fook, i do need to keep them lower for best light, can i FIM the FIM IN future grows?

Verde, Great scrog there, what height do they get with that method?

PersonalJesus said:

okay, okay... knowledge is power... I gots a baby G13 Haze that is looking prime to try this out. She is about 2 weeks old and ready to be topped for the first time.
heres a question: Roughly, how long are you guys vegging? Its gotta take some extra time to weave everything through and try and make sure its all an even canopy.
also, how many times do you guys top when you SCROG?

hypothetically speaking, of course

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Here you go bro, this is a good tuturial, better then the other one I sent you. You veg as long as it takes to fill the screen and you keep training it all the way until 2 weeks into flower. You do this cuz that's when the stretch hits.

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/438789-lbhs-scrog-tutorial.html

Sr. Verde said:

I start bending a plant over early a day after every watering, to train it to the side. I let it grow horizontally, and let the lower branches get better light. This helps with stress, and lets the lower branches grow out enough to get light. Then once the stem is long enough to reach the edge of the pot I tie it down with zip ties.

Then I grow a large bush out basically until the branches get long. And once they are long enough I add a screen in. Which is plastic netting stretched over the canopy. I hook it up to my tent poles with zip ties.

Then the real tall branches get pushed to the outside, and the short ones go to the inside. And then I keep the height even like that. And I also tie individual branches down to my pot using zip ties, when they grow really big.

So the idea is that when one cola takes over and starts getting taller than the others, you push it further out so that it's even height with the rest of your flowers .

note this isn't 250w.

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Nice Verde .. so my current grow I was calling SOG/LST seems very similar to SCROG, I'm just using no netting, more plants and less LST . After seeing this I might look into a net for the next grow .
BTW: props for the sterile grow area

Grazz

havent been so active for a while, been moving to new spot.jjust got my 2nd 250w put in yesterday.so now got 500w going.and these 4 plants to flower under them both.thinking of using 1 hps and 1 mh to get good spec going.

cbtbudz said:

havent been so active for a while, been moving to new spot.jjust got my 2nd 250w put in yesterday.so now got 500w going.and these 4 plants to flower under them both.thinking of using 1 hps and 1 mh to get good spec going.

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Glad to see you're back up cbt..

thanks for the info guys... any tips?

mongcheese said:

Verde, Great scrog there, what height do they get with that method?

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Depends on the strain... a couple feet. they will grow as much as you want them to.

mongcheese said:

Hi verde, i did FIM her believe it or not lol, and she still stretched like fook, i do need to keep them lower for best light, can i FIM the FIM IN future grows?

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You can top but that won't just make them automatically small. You have to tie the branches down and away from each other. You don't even really have to top or FIM either. The pictures i just posted are reserva privada headband.. not topped or fimmed

PersonalJesus said:

okay, okay... knowledge is power... I gots a baby G13 Haze that is looking prime to try this out. She is about 2 weeks old and ready to be topped for the first time.
heres a question: Roughly, how long are you guys vegging? Its gotta take some extra time to weave everything through and try and make sure its all an even canopy.
also, how many times do you guys top when you SCROG?

hypothetically speaking, of course

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I top at the first or second true node.. look at uncle bens guide to topping. I don't think there is a point to topping a top though. More branches won't necessarily give you more weed, just smaller colas on more branches.



Also with SCROG, note that your not really weaving, just pushing them down and out, where they push up against the screen as they try to grow out towards the light.

awesome... I gotta try to SCROG... I really need to increase my "grams per watt"

Well, I got inspired by the chat the last day or so, so went about training my Big Buddha Cheese ladies. I had already topped them late in veg to slow them down a bit while the flower chamber became free (and to aid growth and yield of course). I was gonna leave them like this as they had grown really dense and bushy ender CFL's anyway, and the lower branches had really reached up. Today I got out my screws and cable ties, and spent a little time training them. I din't do much, as you can see from the one pic I took as a "before and after" style thing, but it does mean that all the budd sites will be within 6" of the lamp at the edges and 3" directly under the bulb....Nice!!!

When the lights come on tomorrow, I will add some more pics of them in the tent, once they have all upturned properly.

NB - I Increased the bend on one stem by tightening the cable tie, and couldn't feel the tension,...snapped the stem!! Not worried too much, as I dropped a 15" desk fan on 2 ladies, on 2 separate occasions and they seemed almost totally unaffected...god I love nature. It was in the first week of flower, and I expected that stem to be seriously stunted in budd, as it had to spend time repairing rather then creating budd...it didn't seem any less productive then the others

PERSONAL JESUS - the reason Verde and myself train plants, the day after watering, is that they are weaker and more easily bent. If you find your plants wilting a little when they need watering, you can physically see the water being moved up the plant, as the branches return to position, workng from the bottom up. I would say it is worth letting one lady get a little too dry, just once, in veg, so you can soak it back up, roll a smoke, and watch the wonder of nature. Don't be a dick like me and try and bend too much on the first day. You can always increase the bend a little after a day or 2

I know they are a little pale, mag def stopped them using up Nitrogen properly, but both are now back on track, and hopefully they will look greener tomorrow

Oh yeah, and excuse the state of my kitchen. Tending and watering my ladies is always done first thing, so they have a full day of light to appreciate my efforts... house work takes second place

cbtbudz said:

View attachment 2498385n so active for a while, been moving to new spot.jjust got my 2nd 250w put in yesterday.so now got 500w going.and these 4 plants to flower under them both.thinking of using 1 hps and 1 mh to get good spec going.

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Good to see you back, and lovely looking ladies....can I ask one thing, can you rotate your pics please so I don't get neck ache admiring your handy work.

I never used to, till I bothered playing around with the laptop, and it's easy. Double click the file so the pic opens in Window Photo Gallery, then click on the clockwise, or anti-clockwise arrow, and when you close the pic, or scroll to the next one, iit saves the changes automatically