250w HPS Club And Help Guide

Wretched420 · Apr 16, 2009

Doobieus said:
Well damn, get to printing Wretched lol jk.

haha well i would be if they would actually submit the initiative to the secretary of state already. the have been finalizing the initiative for a while now making sure the wording is correct :bigjoint:

so we will be on our journey soon enough.. :leaf:

Doobieus · Apr 16, 2009

Wretched420 said:
haha well i would be if they would actually submit the initiative to the secretary of state already. the have been finalizing the initiative for a while now making sure the wording is correct so we will be on our journey soon enough..

I figured as much but I thought I'd be a lil' smart ass about it lol. Rock on though, for sure wording is definitely important. Well best of wishes to you guys out there in Az, I'm rooting for you dude :eyesmoke:

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Doobieus · Apr 16, 2009

bubblegumwidow said:
I'm running a 250w hydrofarm system on a eye hortilux conversion MH for veg and super hps for bloom. I have 15 plants now at 5 weeks from seed. works well in my box for seedling and early vegging but they come out soon and naturally a few leave due to weakness, males etc... but in the end I will have to take them from the box and wall off a little of the garage for more room on the floor. 250w worked good on my last grow when the 5 plants stayed in the box from seed to harvest. this time there is too many and the about 10 I will have out of the box will take up a roughly 5x5 area. mind you the area will be painted flat white but I wanted to know if supplemental lighting in the form of red spectrum cfl's would be beneficial. the plants are mostly serious seeds bubblegum and with my experiences, stays pretty short. been scratchin my head on this and wanted any opinions on usefulness of clf during flowering oh and heres some pics of setup

Welcome to the club Bubblegumwidow.

5x5 area you might want to just upgrade or buy another 250 honestly. Cfl's are decent for supplemental lighting, but with a 5x5 area you might just want to invest in another 250.

Hope this helps, setup looks nice. It's been a good while since I have smoked Bubblegum, sounds good. Good luck with your grow and hope this helps :bigjoint:

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bubblegumwidow · Apr 17, 2009

yeah I was considering picking up another 250 over upgrading the watts. I figure lower heat and better coverage with two 250's versus a 400 or 600w single. that would also allow me to have a veg and flower lamp for smaller grows to speed things up (6 week harvests). thanks for the opinion!

Doobieus · Apr 17, 2009

bubblegumwidow said:
yeah I was considering picking up another 250 over upgrading the watts. I figure lower heat and better coverage with two 250's versus a 400 or 600w single. that would also allow me to have a veg and flower lamp for smaller grows to speed things up (6 week harvests). thanks for the opinion!

Save you a lil' bit of cash too :bigjoint:

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Doobieus · Apr 17, 2009

Hey Mind I talked to my partner last night and she said she will send it out to everyone she knows out there. Also she said to hit up Seminole Community College, she said it's in between Sanford and Lake Mary. She said that between the adult high school and actual college you should get a decent grip of signatures, I hope this helps you some. I can't do much being in a different state, and my state has medical so I figured to try and help you and Wretched as much as I can.

Mindmelted · Apr 17, 2009

Doobieus said:
Save you a lil' bit of cash too .

Opens car door and smokes rolls out. :joint:

Whats up Doobs,Just spent a few hours out on the water in lovely florida.Caught some fish,and a really good Buzz :joint:

Bunch of dolphins playing around the boat,did not do much good for fishing but sure was a blast to watch them.
Well ahve a great day and burn one for me :weed:

Doobieus · Apr 17, 2009

Mindmelted said:
Opens car door and smokes rolls out.

Whats up Doobs,Just spent a few hours out on the water in lovely florida.Caught some fish,and a really good Buzz

Bunch of dolphins playing around the boat,did not do much good for fishing but sure was a blast to watch them.
Well ahve a great day and burn one for me

Awww that sounds absolutely fantastic Mind, I'm green with envy and thc right now lol. I used to live in Lahaina, Maui when I was a kid, I miss the ocean so so much, the fishing, the smell of ocean air, life can't get much better than that lol. Dolphins are so cute, so very very cute, smart too.

You have a great one too Mind and don't worry I got ya.

:joint:

One for you.
:bigjoint:

And one for me lol.

Mindmelted · Apr 17, 2009

Doobieus said:
Awww that sounds absolutely fantastic Mind, I'm green with envy and thc right now lol. I used to live in Lahaina, Maui when I was a kid, I miss the ocean so so much, the fishing, the smell of ocean air, life can't get much better than that lol. Dolphins are so cute, so very very cute, smart too.

You have a great one too Mind and don't worry I got ya.

One for you.
And one for me lol.

It was awesome.Watching the parents teach the baby to rush the bait fish into the shallows and feed on them :eek:

It was like national geographic next to the boat,Really cool.And it was even better cause i was stoned off my Ass :eyesmoke:

Doobieus · Apr 17, 2009

Mindmelted said:
It was awesome.Watching the parents teach the baby to rush the bait fish into the shallows and feed on them

It was like national geographic next to the boat,Really cool.And it was even better cause i was stoned off my Ass

Awesome man that's so cool, you totally got invited into that dolphin's life for a moment there, and what a moment to boot!

Sounds like complete paradise, glad you enjoyed it.

ceerock · Apr 17, 2009

I just moved up north from Central fl ... I miss it sooooooooo much......

Mindmelted · Apr 17, 2009

Doobieus said:
Awesome man that's so cool, you totally got invited into that dolphin's life for a moment there, and what a moment to boot!

Sounds like complete paradise, glad you enjoyed it.

It was like a little slice of heaven today

If everyday was like today i could leave now a happy man.

plantman969 · Apr 17, 2009

Whats going on? So i have a few question.

I have my 2x2x6 grow space with my 250
3 plants in 9gal dwc. The plants look wonderful with no problems. (hopefully)

So my question - I have been doing a lot of reading and so forth and have noticed my plants are so much diff than most. 1st they are on day 6 of veg total of 4-7 in with more growth and root mass than most. The problem lies in the amount of space. i have 1 barneys farm nightshade in the front (indica)
small comparied to the others both Super Lemon Haze- 1 showing sativa phenos and the other more of the indica pheno.
These are the two i am concerned about.
From the beginning they have been veged under the MH250 and now on the HPS250, yet the whole time my light is about 4-6 in above the plant. Because of this along with the multipule toppings they have become bushes. Yet they are short. I place my light really low because i have good air flow and have yet to burn the plants. i also dont have that large space between the stock and starting of growth like most do. Maybe 1" from tote to foliage. I did raise my light so it sits about 9" from the plants to help them strech. Once they reach 1.5 feet from the tote my screen will come into play SCROG
My buddy said because they area is so small once my buds fill out the screen it will be like a rainforest. Lush tops shitty undergrowth. I plan on trimming larger fan leafs throughout flowering to get more light penitration. and also installing 4 small cfls for suplamental lighting under the screen. Are my bushes going to make this really dificult?

This is my first real grow and have had my bumps in the road - all most killed the plants in flower when i switched them to 12/12 the first time. they got nute lock out from low ph ended cutting off most of the plant and reveged for about a week and a half to get them recovered. Well in doing so they grew back and are super healthy but just really bushy. So maybe i over topped them?

I feel i have the process down pat for what works for me from seed to begining of flowering. But have never gone futher than that and dont quite know what to expect during the flowering process.

so any ideas comments that would help facilitate this learning please voice your opinions.

Wretched420 · Apr 17, 2009

plantman969 said:
Whats going on? So i have a few question.

I have my 2x2x6 grow space with my 250
3 plants in 9gal dwc. The plants look wonderful with no problems. (hopefully)

So my question - I have been doing a lot of reading and so forth and have noticed my plants are so much diff than most. 1st they are on day 6 of veg total of 4-7 in with more growth and root mass than most. The problem lies in the amount of space. i have 1 barneys farm nightshade in the front (indica)
small comparied to the others both Super Lemon Haze- 1 showing sativa phenos and the other more of the indica pheno.
These are the two i am concerned about.
From the beginning they have been veged under the MH250 and now on the HPS250, yet the whole time my light is about 4-6 in above the plant. Because of this along with the multipule toppings they have become bushes. Yet they are short. I place my light really low because i have good air flow and have yet to burn the plants. i also dont have that large space between the stock and starting of growth like most do. Maybe 1" from tote to foliage. I did raise my light so it sits about 9" from the plants to help them strech. Once they reach 1.5 feet from the tote my screen will come into play SCROG
My buddy said because they area is so small once my buds fill out the screen it will be like a rainforest. Lush tops shitty undergrowth. I plan on trimming larger fan leafs throughout flowering to get more light penitration. and also installing 4 small cfls for suplamental lighting under the screen. Are my bushes going to make this really dificult?

This is my first real grow and have had my bumps in the road - all most killed the plants in flower when i switched them to 12/12 the first time. they got nute lock out from low ph ended cutting off most of the plant and reveged for about a week and a half to get them recovered. Well in doing so they grew back and are super healthy but just really bushy. So maybe i over topped them?

I feel i have the process down pat for what works for me from seed to begining of flowering. But have never gone futher than that and dont quite know what to expect during the flowering process.

so any ideas comments that would help facilitate this learning please voice your opinions.

oright let me start by saying your plants look wonderful man and no you will be just fine with them bushes if i were you i would get the screen in there now . some actually like to put the screen in there in vegg and LST before they add a screen but this is not needed all the time..
let some growth come through it over time or you can set the screen lower and weave the bigger tops around into the screen. and let the shorter ones grow..
depending in the future you might wanna lollipop you plants take off the lower bud sites to focus on the "lush tops" sites..

these are alll opinions from my expierence with SCROG

i put my screen in a little to late but it worked out fine i could have a had a much evenier canopy if i would have put the screen in there earlier..

but heres some pix of my last scrog
there first pic are like 2 week flowering
and advance from there

i weaved the tall tops into the screen to allow the shorter ones to grow throught but they didnt have enough time too :shock:

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as you see some tops are taller than others this is what you want to try an avoid.
but this was 4 plants under 1 screen and what a bitch it was..
this is why people start early with scrog for an even canopy..

check out Doob's grow this is what i mean starting it early and with LST https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/175767-doobs-complete-grow-journal-got-4.html

this is all IMO.. talk to others too im a wierdo for sure :spew:

bubblegumwidow · Apr 17, 2009

yeah screen or trellis a good idea. those look like some scrog plants for sure. dont know if its helpful but heres some pics of setup I use for trellis for mine. its just some dumb tiny screws with eyes at the end that go around entire frame ($1.25) and some nylon string (mold resistant, moisture resistant) and run lengths of string from one side to the other, tying them off at the eyes. it lets me adjust, move, or remove support where I need it without have to try to train tops through small holes in screen. cant beat it for the price and ease of installation

tom__420 · Apr 17, 2009

I just got some new pics up 250 watt club! You should follow the link in my sig to my journal to check them out :hump:

Doobieus · Apr 18, 2009

ceerock said:
I just moved up north from Central fl ... I miss it sooooooooo much......

My partner is from Orlando, she misses it too.

Mindmelted said:
It was like a little slice of heaven today

If everyday was like today i could leave now a happy man.

Yeah I hear you dude, sounds refreshing, glad you had fun relaxin' under the sun :bigjoint:

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plantman969 said:
Whats going on? So i have a few question.

I have my 2x2x6 grow space with my 250
3 plants in 9gal dwc. The plants look wonderful with no problems. (hopefully)

So my question - I have been doing a lot of reading and so forth and have noticed my plants are so much diff than most. 1st they are on day 6 of veg total of 4-7 in with more growth and root mass than most. The problem lies in the amount of space. i have 1 barneys farm nightshade in the front (indica)
small comparied to the others both Super Lemon Haze- 1 showing sativa phenos and the other more of the indica pheno.
These are the two i am concerned about.
From the beginning they have been veged under the MH250 and now on the HPS250, yet the whole time my light is about 4-6 in above the plant. Because of this along with the multipule toppings they have become bushes. Yet they are short. I place my light really low because i have good air flow and have yet to burn the plants. i also dont have that large space between the stock and starting of growth like most do. Maybe 1" from tote to foliage. I did raise my light so it sits about 9" from the plants to help them strech. Once they reach 1.5 feet from the tote my screen will come into play SCROG
My buddy said because they area is so small once my buds fill out the screen it will be like a rainforest. Lush tops shitty undergrowth. I plan on trimming larger fan leafs throughout flowering to get more light penitration. and also installing 4 small cfls for suplamental lighting under the screen. Are my bushes going to make this really dificult?

This is my first real grow and have had my bumps in the road - all most killed the plants in flower when i switched them to 12/12 the first time. they got nute lock out from low ph ended cutting off most of the plant and reveged for about a week and a half to get them recovered. Well in doing so they grew back and are super healthy but just really bushy. So maybe i over topped them?

I feel i have the process down pat for what works for me from seed to begining of flowering. But have never gone futher than that and dont quite know what to expect during the flowering process.

so any ideas comments that would help facilitate this learning please voice your opinions.

Wretched is right on with everything for sure :mrgreen:

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I personally like to start a pre-training LST on my plants, palm them (Remove most lower nodes that aren't going to make it to the canopy), I give it time to heal and adjust, then I transition to SCRoG.

Now mind you the reason I do this is because of my limitations for space, that and I have small hands that can reach under the 2-4 inch space under the screen to water my plants. My space is only 4 ft high, so I have to train early.

I also have a sativa/indica hybrid and indicas in my grow, the hybrid is being SCRoG'd more than the indicas. The indicas will be moved around to accomodate the hybrid. Basically what I'm getting at is, I reserve most of the screen for the faster growing plants so my canopy stays even. Sometimes you gotta let your nodes grow out a bit before you can even them out and that's ok.

Also nice plants, especially for recovered plants, good job dude.

Wretched420 said:
oright let me start by saying your plants look wonderful man and no you will be just fine with them bushes if i were you i would get the screen in there now . some actually like to put the screen in there in vegg and LST before they add a screen but this is not needed all the time..
let some growth come through it over time or you can set the screen lower and weave the bigger tops around into the screen. and let the shorter ones grow..
depending in the future you might wanna lollipop you plants take off the lower bud sites to focus on the "lush tops" sites..

these are alll opinions from my expierence with SCROG

i put my screen in a little to late but it worked out fine i could have a had a much evenier canopy if i would have put the screen in there earlier..

but heres some pix of my last scrog
there first pic are like 2 week flowering
and advance from there

i weaved the tall tops into the screen to allow the shorter ones to grow throught but they didnt have enough time too.
as you see some tops are taller than others this is what you want to try an avoid.
but this was 4 plants under 1 screen and what a bitch it was..
this is why people start early with scrog for an even canopy..

check out Doob's grow this is what i mean starting it early and with LST https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/175767-doobs-complete-grow-journal-got-4.html

this is all IMO.. talk to others too im a wierdo for sure

Wretched used my journal as an example, whooo! Wait.... was this a good example or bad? Lol just jokin Wretched :hug:

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bubblegumwidow said:
yeah screen or trellis a good idea. those look like some scrog plants for sure. dont know if its helpful but heres some pics of setup I use for trellis for mine. its just some dumb tiny screws with eyes at the end that go around entire frame ($1.25) and some nylon string (mold resistant, moisture resistant) and run lengths of string from one side to the other, tying them off at the eyes. it lets me adjust, move, or remove support where I need it without have to try to train tops through small holes in screen. cant beat it for the price and ease of installation

I use the screen out of the old baby/dog gates. It's metal and has a plastic covering on the wire, also if you buy one of those gates or have one, you get 2 screens already framed with wood. The holes are 2x2 inches, and if the screen with the frame is too big you can cut it down because the screen is already formed into a perfect square.

SCRoG is just awesome isn't it?

tom__420 said:
I just got some new pics up 250 watt club! You should follow the link in my sig to my journal to check them out

Will do Tom!

Now that I have caught up with replies, it's time to go enjoy a nice smoke down :bigjoint:

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Love, Peace and Chicken grease everyone!

bkgmitts19 · Apr 19, 2009

Hey 250 club some of you might of seen me round been doin my thang for awhile.. just gotta 250w and started a new grow journal, so I guess I'll fit in here... I'm full organics, usually water only, LST, slapstick fuck it I do it all, got height limitation and all the fun.. so HI gang

Doobieus · Apr 19, 2009

bkgmitts19 said:
Hey 250 club some of you might of seen me round been doin my thang for awhile.. just gotta 250w and started a new grow journal, so I guess I'll fit in here... I'm full organics, usually water only, LST, slapstick fuck it I do it all, got height limitation and all the fun.. so HI gang

Hey Mitts welcome to the club, always good to see another 250w user :bigjoint:

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Wretched420 · Apr 19, 2009

bkgmitts19 said:
Hey 250 club some of you might of seen me round been doin my thang for awhile.. just gotta 250w and started a new grow journal, so I guess I'll fit in here... I'm full organics, usually water only, LST, slapstick fuck it I do it all, got height limitation and all the fun.. so HI gang

cool man nice to have ya.. :weed:

cant wait to see some pix

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