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2ANONYMOUS

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Resinhound said:
Ya I disagree...claiming nothing grows in the fucking arctic circle doesnt mean much..of course nothing grows its fucking 50 below with 24hr darkness...w...t....f
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lol ok you keep running your plants on 24 hrs lighting nice pic by the way lol for 29 days was that clone form ??? lmao 24 hrs works real good for you buddy don't stop 29 days.jpg
 
Resinhound

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That was from seed and was vegged mostly on 20/4 until the end.And its an auto.The end result wasnt too bad for the strain.I train my plants to be short,you should try growing in restricted places.

Now if you would like to post that proof...

Didnt think so
 
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2ANONYMOUS

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here is 4 weeks under 18 watts of course from seed with dark period and a 4 week clone so what ever i didn't come in here to start anything it just appears way you came back cocky like
C3 , C4 Cam species darkness plays a roll in some way or another ,, its just common sense really and with my years of growing And trust me kiddo there is just no gains running 24 hrs
So i disagree Firmly here 4 week old seedling 18 watts Sunblaster T5 Ho 18 /6 sitting in cut out of 45 gallon drum just under 22 gallon of soil and another @ 8 Weeks just transplanted outside so yeah I just keep it simple like mother nature intended , day time and night time

PS: only time i run 24 hr lighting is when its clone time owe i like this picture of light dep plant in middle of summer lol 4 weeks.jpg gallery_11738_4818_135824 (1).jpg gallery_11738_4908_581600.jpg
 
Resinhound

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Well im hardly a kiddo,but thats cool we can agree to disagree then.Again c3 and c4 plants are totally different,c4plants process c02 during the dark period,c3 plants only process c02 during lights on.
 
shorelineOG

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mr sunshine said:
Its crazy how easily a person with minimal knowledge on growing cannibis can rip off so many people. How do you make seeds can you walk me threw your process?
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I breed landrace Colombians with elite clone only strains. Sour d x Mexican for example. My landrace strains are true and unworked, not ibl. I breed for hybrid vigor and complexity. Selfing or backcrossing causes bottlenecking of terpenes. Recombinations of the same strains doesn't create new strains. My landrace sativas are sourced from the countries of origin, not seed banks.
 
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redeyedfrog

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2ANONYMOUS said:
As Mary jane been around longer then anyone of us lol , we do out best to mimic mother nature so ?? With that said where on Earth is it 24 hrs all the time sunlight ? cause if we are wanting to duplicate mother nature then 24 hr lighting is not NORMAL .

Hrs leading up to darkness ,, plays a very crucial role for all plants
when the sun sets, the angle of the light hitting the earth's atmosphere is tilted. It changes from bright daylight (white) blue spectrum (450 nm) to amber or red at sunset (650 nm) which is basically a shorter wavelength and thus carries with it more photon energy.
Which triggers cues in the plant

That is why we need more red to flower (HPS during bud) and we need more white (Metal Halide) during veg stage. We are duplicating nature indoors. Basically humans developed in a similar way as we spend the day gathering food and expending energy. At night time, like cannabis, we metabolize this food to produce the energy to make new cells and repair the damaged ones we hurt during the day. We also use the night to produce very important enzymes and proteins and we wait for the sunrise to get to work or in a plants case, to start the day again photosynthesizing.

what the plant is really doing while it is sleeping is carrying out a cyclic process known as circadian rhythm from the Latin word meaning “approximately a day”. To take it one step further, all cells require metabolic energy in the form of what is called ATP or NADH. This energy is produced throughout the day and is the result of many biochemical processes, not just one. We all seem to concentrate on photosynthesis because we know it occurs during the daytime and we can understand that. Photosynthesis is the process of breaking down metabolic energy by using light energy (Produced during the day) to break apart water which generates O2, protons and electrons. Oxygen becomes the bus driver that transports all aerobic respiration and it is used to transport the electrons which in turn is used in the productions of those energy rich molecules known as ATP and NADH we talked about earlier.


So when all of this mixes together in photosynthesis, the Calvin cycle ( light) fixates or concentrates on CO2 to make what is called 3-Carbon sugars during this light cycle. Later during the darkness or “night cycle”, this 3-Carbon sugars are converted to 6-Carbon sugars such as glucose and fructose. Now the point should be clear and obvious. We need both the daylight for photosynthesis to occur and generate 3-Carbon sugars but we also need the darkness or night to finish the job and create 6-Carbon sugars to make glucose and fructose that is used to make cellular carbon or the bulk of ATP and NADH during aerobic respiration during the dark cycle. Does this make sense now?
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Finally someone that understands that plants need sleep too!
 
redeyedfrog

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shorelineOG said:
I have tried both ways and haven't noticed a 33% increase in growth.

Environment effects pheno expression. Sativas are more potent when you replicate equatorial conditions. Tobacco grown in Cuba will be different than if you grew it a different location. Most sativa producing countries have 12/12 year round with no winter.
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Where do you get your statistics from?
Again that's total crap.
 
qwizoking

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hey im known for growing landraces..

at least you said one thing i can approve of...ok you didnt
but landraces are awesome

and i approve fhis message




for what its worth anybody, my grow houses are on 24/0 for ease.. ive ran 20/4 etc.. if o thought it was terribly detrimental or noticed huge differences.. id just buy timers

but i dont
 
Michael Huntherz

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shorelineOG said:
"bottlenecking of terpenes"
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- this is meaningless pseudo-scientific babble.
shorelineOG said:
I breed landrace Colombians with elite clone only strains... My landrace strains are true and unworked... My landrace sativas are sourced from the countries of origin, not seed banks.
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And let me be the first to say we're all so very proud of you, Skippy. Can I call you Skippy? Skippy it is.
 
shorelineOG

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redeyedfrog said:
I am a outdoor grower and that's bullshit,
Show me one rookie grower who can get pounds. It ain't that easy dude. I was lucky to get 2-3 oz per plant my first year.
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I have the rookie dig a deep enough hole and fill with potting soil. We plant the clones in the ground and apply time released organic nutrient like tomatone. I instruct them to leave the plants alone and water in between rain. I come back to prune and top the plants. I see many rookies with good outdoor harvests with a super soil or something similar. Sometimes you have to leave the plants alone, a mistake most rookies make. A little common sense and a background in traditional agriculture is your best friend. I see rookies hit the ground running when they stay basic.
 
redeyedfrog

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Diabolical666 said:
not this plant..if it "needed" sleep then my plants on 24 would be dead, stunted etc is what you are saying then?
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I'm saying your plants would probably do a little better with a some down time, pretty simple really.
You are probably fine but I'm a purist and I truly believe in circadian rhythms and that the plant has evolved over millions of years and we shouldn't mess with it. As long as your getting good results keep doing what yer doing. I just feel like it's not the proper way to treat them but that's just me.
 
Michael Huntherz

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shorelineOG said:
I have the rookie dig a deep enough hole and fill with potting soil. We plant the clones in the ground and apply time released organic nutrient like tomatone. I instruct them to leave the plants alone and water in between rain. I come back to prune and top the plants. I see many rookies with good outdoor harvests with a super soil or something similar. Sometimes you have to leave the plants alone, a mistake most rookies make. A little common sense and a background in traditional agriculture is your best friend. I see rookies hit the ground running when they stay basic.
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Man, you might be a great grower, but you believe some cray shit. I don't care if everyone in Mendocino gives you rimjobs for your epic motherfucking flowers, or if you're in a trailer in Tennessee, some of the things you claim to be causal relationships are wild conjecture. That's all I'm saying.
 
heckler73

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redeyedfrog said:
I'm saying your plants would probably do a little better with a some down time, pretty simple really.
You are probably fine but I'm a purist and I truly believe in circadian rhythms and that the plant has evolved over millions of years and we shouldn't mess with it. As long as your getting good results keep doing what yer doing. I just feel like it's not the proper way to treat them but that's just me.
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What about growing plants in zero-g environments?
 
shorelineOG

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Michael Huntherz said:
- this is meaningless pseudo-scientific babble.

And let me be the first to say we're all so very proud of you, Skippy. Can I call you Skippy? Skippy it is.
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Bottlenecking is babble???Cross a blueberry to a blueberry and you don't introduce new terpenes. Cross a blueberry to a Colombian and you get a more complex high with greater disease resistance.
 
Michael Huntherz

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shorelineOG said:
Bottlenecking is babble???Cross a blueberry to a blueberry and you don't introduce new terpenes. Cross a blueberry to a Colombian and you get a more complex high with greater disease resistance.
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I'm not a botanist, but I'm pretty sure that this claim of "new terpenes" is bollocks. What if you wanted Blueberry, not something new? I'm not a geneticist, but I'm pretty sure that's just selective breeding, bro. I submit that you may not have the requisite scientific literacy to really understand what you're saying. I don't either, but I'm not making claims, I just know how to spot logical fallacies.
redeyedfrog said:
Yeh I've seen lots of plants growing when I look through my telescope.
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International Space Station, yo?
 
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