24/0 is great but...

shorelineOG

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What do you grow in? Soil , hydro?
I do hydro, coco and no till organics. I prefer hydro because of the control and ability to push the plants with nutes. In hydro when I flush I can fade the plant quickly and get a super clean burn. Its hard to flush and fade a plant in rich soil and you harvest a greener plant. Are you a hydro guy?
 

qwizoking

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20160114_132240.jpg


taken jan14th

check out my no till
no nutes added and water comes straight from the sky
:lol:



i expect atleast a couple lbs...
 

Dr. Who

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Post a picture with "shorlineOG" written on a piece of paper, or something that makes it clear that it's you, like "Fuck You Mr Sunshine", lol.

Otherwise you can steal as many pictures as you want and we have no reason to believe you after all the total BS that has already come from you.
OMFG! It's the return of pic booster!
Get them shots from st0wngr0w maybe?
 

Dr. Who

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I do hydro, coco and no till organics. I prefer hydro because of the control and ability to push the plants with nutes. In hydro when I flush I can fade the plant quickly and get a super clean burn. Its hard to flush and fade a plant in rich soil and you harvest a greener plant. Are you a hydro guy?
FLUSH????? Really Chim - Chim? This is so fucking entertaining of a thread! Where can it go next!

Hydro, coco and organic? You gotta be a busy guy......And how really is coco different from hydro?
 

shorelineOG

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FLUSH????? Really Chim - Chim? This is so fucking entertaining of a thread! Where can it go next!

Hydro, coco and organic? You gotta be a busy guy......And how really is coco different from hydro?
Hydro grows faster than coco. About the only difference. All three are low maintenance.
 

shorelineOG

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FLUSH????? Really Chim - Chim? This is so fucking entertaining of a thread! Where can it go next!

Hydro, coco and organic? You gotta be a busy guy......And how really is coco different from hydro?
What is funny about the word FLUSH? I don't get it? What is so hard about some plants in dirt and some in hydro where you make useless comments?
 

rkymtnman

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Key word being "triggers" meaning a decrease in light "signals" a change to the plant.
hey Skippy and or Chim Chim,, going from 24 to 18 does NOT trigger a plant to start flowering. I'm not even sure you belong in the Newbie section.

how is it possible that you seem to be knowledgeable about breeding but not a f'ing clue about growing?
 

a mongo frog

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WAIT! Look here mongo~See what Riddle is doing with T5's and DROOL!

https://www.rollitup.org/t/light.853779/
Hes a better gardener then me. Im a 10 year in door newbie......... Questioning every move i make in the garden..... Now these ass holes got me thinking 18/6 again...... Then one fine gentlemen is saying 11/13, I'm thinking what is the difference, 12/12, 11/13??? 10 more posts someones going to say 10 hours and 45 minutes/13 hours 15 minutes is the best lighting schedule for flower!!!!! I love all this kind of chatter though!!! Keeps my stoned out brain always thinking a little bit.......
 

shorelineOG

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Hes a better gardener then me. Im a 10 year in door newbie......... Questioning every move i make in the garden..... Now these ass holes got me thinking 18/6 again...... Then one fine gentlemen is saying 11/13, I'm thinking what is the difference, 12/12, 11/13??? 10 more posts someones going to say 10 hours and 45 minutes/13 hours 15 minutes is the best lighting schedule for flower!!!!! I love all this kind of chatter though!!! Keeps my stoned out brain always thinking a little bit.......
Sorry, if I come across the wrong way, to every one. When questioning a new way of growing, it helps to understand why. The reason a person would flower under 11/13 as opposed to 12/12 is because pure sativas foxtail and take longer to finish under 12/12. 11/13 also brings out any intersex traits that wouldn't otherwise show. 12/12 is perfect for most strains.
 

shorelineOG

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hey Skippy and or Chim Chim,, going from 24 to 18 does NOT trigger a plant to start flowering. I'm not even sure you belong in the Newbie section.

how is it possible that you seem to be knowledgeable about breeding but not a f'ing clue about growing?
Some strains are a lot more sensitive to photoperiod. I don't explain things in a way that is clear to everyone, sometimes.
 

Dr. Who

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What is funny about the word FLUSH? I don't get it? What is so hard about some plants in dirt and some in hydro where you make useless comments?
Because the "final flush" is an old school hippie MYTH! It's NOT a way to better taste and burn over a quality, well managed dry and cure!

Your practically useless!

Sorry, if I come across the wrong way, to every one. When questioning a new way of growing, it helps to understand why. The reason a person would flower under 11/13 as opposed to 12/12 is because pure sativas foxtail and take longer to finish under 12/12. 11/13 also brings out any intersex traits that wouldn't otherwise show. 12/12 is perfect for most strains.
Foxtailing is genetic in most cases. HEAT can be more of an onset cause then lighting times (but longer times do contribute to some). Longer running Sat's tend to foxtail when they are done and being run too long.

I run 11/13 over 12/12 because it is less stressful and you get less stress related problems. I firmly believe this along with DJ Short and some others.

The following is not related to comments I made to Chim - Chim!

Cannabis is a C3 plant - not C4 (Hyroot's post)

Cannabis does not REQUIRE a lights out time BUT (and I've said it before) I believe it does my plant better then not! Search up "Light saturation point in C3 plants" and read up on the cellular changes that the plant goes through. UB is a staunch follower of the LSP and giving a "night" to his plants (if that matters at all). The point being that the plant will more effectively photosynthesize after a "night' period. Could it be that not doing a lights out nearly balances the difference? No available information on that thought as I can find.....I'll turn them off for the money saved and the plant process being better after so.
If you worry about nodal spacing, why run 24/0 and not work the deep blues more and see that works just as well if not better.
I do spectral manipulation with my T5 vegging before they spend their last 14 vegging days under a 1K MH.....

I know Satived,,,You like 24/0 and so do others. I'm not saying that either of us is more right then the other. Only that we both present correct opposing views.

The bottom line on 24/0 vegging is more like "Do what makes YOU comfortable, as they both work!!!"

BTW I like 24/0 for cuttings and seedlings till the Solo cup. There it's straight to 18/6....

Someone said earlier that an Indica strain can flower at 13/11. I've actually seen one do it at 14/10. It was a seed from a Pound of Napali finger hash found back in the 70's.......I sure do wish I had that strain back...

There's my 2 cents on the OP's question.....

Now can we get back to the humor?
 

shorelineOG

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Because the "final flush" is an old school hippie MYTH! It's NOT a way to better taste and burn over a quality, well managed dry and cure!

Your practically useless!



Foxtailing is genetic in most cases. HEAT can be more of an onset cause then lighting times (but longer times do contribute to some). Longer running Sat's tend to foxtail when they are done and being run too long.

I run 11/13 over 12/12 because it is less stressful and you get less stress related problems. I firmly believe this along with DJ Short and some others.

The following is not related to comments I made to Chim - Chim!

Cannabis is a C3 plant - not C4 (Hyroot's post)

Cannabis does not REQUIRE a lights out time BUT (and I've said it before) I believe it does my plant better then not! Search up "Light saturation point in C3 plants" and read up on the cellular changes that the plant goes through. UB is a staunch follower of the LSP and giving a "night" to his plants (if that matters at all). The point being that the plant will more effectively photosynthesize after a "night' period. Could it be that not doing a lights out nearly balances the difference? No available information on that thought as I can find.....I'll turn them off for the money saved and the plant process being better after so.
If you worry about nodal spacing, why run 24/0 and not work the deep blues more and see that works just as well if not better.
I do spectral manipulation with my T5 vegging before they spend their last 14 vegging days under a 1K MH.....

I know Satived,,,You like 24/0 and so do others. I'm not saying that either of us is more right then the other. Only that we both present correct opposing views.

The bottom line on 24/0 vegging is more like "Do what makes YOU comfortable, as they both work!!!"

BTW I like 24/0 for cuttings and seedlings till the Solo cup. There it's straight to 18/6....

Someone said earlier that an Indica strain can flower at 13/11. I've actually seen one do it at 14/10. It was a seed from a Pound of Napali finger hash found back in the 70's.......I sure do wish I had that strain back...

There's my 2 cents on the OP's question.....

Now can we get back to the humor?
Flushing may seem like a MYTH in organics, but in hydro your plant will FADE very quickly. My hydro burns cleaner than my soil grows. Soil has more flavor. I have seen weed that wasn't flushed and sparkles and crackes with black ash. In organics you wait until the plant fades because it stops uptake of nutrients.
 

Dr. Who

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Hes a better gardener then me. Im a 10 year in door newbie......... Questioning every move i make in the garden..... Now these ass holes got me thinking 18/6 again...... Then one fine gentlemen is saying 11/13, I'm thinking what is the difference, 12/12, 11/13??? 10 more posts someones going to say 10 hours and 45 minutes/13 hours 15 minutes is the best lighting schedule for flower!!!!! I love all this kind of chatter though!!! Keeps my stoned out brain always thinking a little bit.......
The point is how the plant reacts to the time.
Like I said above (indirectly). It's up to you to find what works best for you! You've got plenty of life time left right? Try different things and "see" for yourself.......I still play with certain aspects of my growing and expect to always ! Just cause I've done it for years doesn't mean I can't find out something I never knew worked out better FOR ME down the road......I have as much fun growing as consuming! Maybe more!

I still am, a firm believer in a lights out and 11/13 bloom times.
 

Dr. Who

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Flushing may seem like a MYTH in organics, but in hydro your plant will FADE very quickly. My hydro burns cleaner than my soil grows. Soil has more flavor. I have seen weed that wasn't flushed and sparkles and crackes with black ash. In organics you wait until the plant fades because it stops uptake of nutrients.
I am now sure your a fakir (my spelling on purpose!)

So you've seen - blah, blah, blah, blah! It wasn't CURED correctly Chim, Chim....
 
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