2022 elections. The steady march for sanity continues.

topcat said:

The Green Party cannot get a substantive candidate anymore. I used to belong, but Stein was enough to make me leave. Sad, really. Now unaffiliated, but will never vote Repuslicken.

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The democrats and Joe are as green as you are likely to get and so far, so good, considering the congress he is dealing with. If the democrats win useful majorities in 24, it will get a lot greener as America addresses the problems and moves forward.

Bipartisan governors want Americans to ‘disagree better’ over politics
A bipartisan pair of governors is pushing for Americans to “disagree better” when it comes to politics.

“We know that politics is downstream of culture. And so this is not something that’s going to change overnight, but we do believe it’s absolutely critical,” said Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.” “The good news is that there are some numbers that show that there is a growing majority of Americans that are tired of toxic disagreement, the divisiveness of tearing each other down, but they’re actually looking for something better.”

Cox, the new chair of the National Governors Association, said governors are “uniquely positioned” to take on the initiative. He and Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D), who serves as vice chair of the National Governors Association and appeared with Cox on CNN, said they are working with universities to understand “the science behind depolarization.”

When asked what the Democratic Party should do better in terms of political disagreement, Polis said the party needs to have “authentic conversations” when disagreements arise.

“What does that mean? It means, don’t question the motives. Republicans, Democrats, independents are good Americans, right?” Polis said. “But, go ahead, put the issues on the table, talk about what works, what doesn’t work.”

Bash asked Cox how he plans to change discourse with former President Trump as a “dominant force,” in the Republican Party. “According to every poll, he is someone [who] routinely spreads lies and demonizes those who disagree with him,” Bash said.

“The polling shows that 60 percent of Republicans aren’t crazy about their front-runner, and 70 percent of Democrats aren’t crazy about their front-runner,” Cox said.

“We’re kind of sleepwalking into this election that nobody is excited about, and nobody wants,” he added, noting that he hopes to provide counterprogramming to the national discourse.

Cox also said he believes most Americans think of the upcoming election as the “most divisive election of our lifetimes.”

The calls for more centrist political discussion can be heard on Capitol Hill too, with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) pushing for centrist candidates in 2024. In an interview with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis on WABC 770 AM’s “The Cats Roundtable,” Manchin argued the country was “not designed to be this divided.”

Manchin said those the “average common-sense people,” are left “poltically homeless,” as both parties lean towards the extreme sides of the political spectrum.

Speculation over a third-party presidential bid for Manchin was further fueled last week when he headlined a town hall sponsored by No Labels, an organization advocating for a third-party candidate.

Fuck, like the last thing that is needed is Manchin and others thinking he can be president.

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Bipartisan governors want Americans to ‘disagree better’ over politics
A bipartisan pair of governors is pushing for Americans to “disagree better” when it comes to politics.

“We know that politics is downstream of culture. And so this is not something that’s going to change overnight, but we do believe it’s absolutely critical,” said Utah Gov. Spencer Cox (R) in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on “State of the Union.” “The good news is that there are some numbers that show that there is a growing majority of Americans that are tired of toxic disagreement, the divisiveness of tearing each other down, but they’re actually looking for something better.”

Cox, the new chair of the National Governors Association, said governors are “uniquely positioned” to take on the initiative. He and Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D), who serves as vice chair of the National Governors Association and appeared with Cox on CNN, said they are working with universities to understand “the science behind depolarization.”

When asked what the Democratic Party should do better in terms of political disagreement, Polis said the party needs to have “authentic conversations” when disagreements arise.

“What does that mean? It means, don’t question the motives. Republicans, Democrats, independents are good Americans, right?” Polis said. “But, go ahead, put the issues on the table, talk about what works, what doesn’t work.”

Bash asked Cox how he plans to change discourse with former President Trump as a “dominant force,” in the Republican Party. “According to every poll, he is someone [who] routinely spreads lies and demonizes those who disagree with him,” Bash said.

“The polling shows that 60 percent of Republicans aren’t crazy about their front-runner, and 70 percent of Democrats aren’t crazy about their front-runner,” Cox said.

“We’re kind of sleepwalking into this election that nobody is excited about, and nobody wants,” he added, noting that he hopes to provide counterprogramming to the national discourse.

Cox also said he believes most Americans think of the upcoming election as the “most divisive election of our lifetimes.”

The calls for more centrist political discussion can be heard on Capitol Hill too, with Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) pushing for centrist candidates in 2024. In an interview with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis on WABC 770 AM’s “The Cats Roundtable,” Manchin argued the country was “not designed to be this divided.”

Manchin said those the “average common-sense people,” are left “poltically homeless,” as both parties lean towards the extreme sides of the political spectrum.

Speculation over a third-party presidential bid for Manchin was further fueled last week when he headlined a town hall sponsored by No Labels, an organization advocating for a third-party candidate.

Bipartisan governors want Americans to ‘disagree better’ over politics

A bipartisan pair of governors is pushing for Americans to “disagree better” when it comes to politics. “We know that politics is downstream of culture. And so this is not something that’s going …

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Fuck, like the last thing that is needed is Manchin and others thinking he can be president.

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Emphatically concur with your last sentence. He’s a Reaganite in a bloody blue pelt.

also, No Labels is a dark-money Judas goat.



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Between Trump, abortion, fascism and general stupidity, it might be a landslide for the democrats in 24, fingers crossed... If pissed off women, students and youth in general show up at the polls it could be very bad for the GOP, especially if Trump is dividing them while thrashing around trying to avoid prison. If he thrashes too hard, he could end up in a DC jail until trial, if he comes under the control of the right judge, they are plentiful in DC, they play by different rules, and he is about to be indicted there. No doubt his lawyer will tell him to STFU when he is indicted in DC, or it could mean being locked up faster than he expects.

Ohio abortion ballot measure meets signature requirement for November
Ohio announced Tuesday that abortion rights advocates have met the signature requirement to place a measure on the Nov. 7 ballot that would codify abortion rights in the state constitution.

Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose (R) certified petitioners received a total of 495,938 valid signatures, exceeding the required minimum of 413,446 signatures — equal to 10 percent of the total votes cast for the governor’s office in the last election. These signatures were collected from 55 counties in Ohio, also surpassing the minimum requirement of at least 44 counties.

The coalition said earlier this month they submitted over 700,000 signatures to place the measure on the ballot.
If passed, the amendment would establish a “fundamental right to reproductive freedom,” with “reasonable limits.” Similar to the standard once set under Roe v. Wade, the amendment would permit abortion up to the point when a fetus can survive outside of the womb, usually around 24 weeks into a pregnancy.

The proposed amendment states “every individual has a right to make and carry out one’s own reproductive decisions, including but not limited to decisions on contraception, fertility treatment, continuing one’s own pregnancy, miscarriage care and abortion.”
The state’s ballot board and attorney general previously approved the language of the amendment.
Ohio passed a six-week abortion ban shortly after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year, before a state court put the ban on hold last fall.

“Today was an important victory for Ohio women, and Ohio Democrats were proud to play our part,” said Ohio Democratic Party Chairwoman Elizabeth Walters. “Out-of-touch politicians are relentlessly attacking women’s fundamental rights, inserting themselves into women’s personal, medical decisions and laying the groundwork for a total abortion ban in Ohio.”

The Ohio Supreme Court ruled last month that a controversial special election can go forward as planned in August, where residents will be asked to vote on a resolution to raise the threshold for future measures to a 60 percent supermajority. Since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the Roe v. Wade ruling last year, amendments related to abortions in multiple states show voter support is between 50 percent and 60 percent, according to the Associated Press.

Abortion advocates have pushed back on the August special election, claiming the move will make it harder for the amendment to pass in November.

The news follows a recent USA TODAY Network/Suffolk University poll that showed almost 60 percent of Ohio voters back the abortion rights amendment. Support for the amendment fell along party lines, with 81 percent in favor of the amendment and 32 percent of Republicans in favor. The poll found 70 percent of independents supported the measure.

“Every person deserves respect, dignity, and the right to make reproductive health care decisions, including those related to their own pregnancy, miscarriage care, and abortion free from government interference,” Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights Executive Committee members Lauren Blauvelt and Dr. Lauren Beene said in a statement Tuesday.

LaRose said he will now direct the board of election to place the amendment on the General Election ballot in November.
LaRose launched his bid for the U.S. Senate last week, joining two major Republican candidates vying for Sen. Sherrod Brown’s (D-Ohio) seat.

More say violence could be necessary to restore Trump to White House: survey
A recent survey shows increasing support for the use of violence to restore former President Trump to the White House.
The report, titled “Dangers to Democracy” and released by the Chicago Project on Security Threats (CPST) earlier this month, found that 7 percent of Americans from April 6 to June 26 agree that “the use of force is justified to restore Donald Trump to the presidency.”
That number is an increase from 4.5 percent, or “the equivalent of an estimated shift from 12 million to 18 million American adults,” according to the survey, which was conducted by CPST and NORC.

It’s the first bump in the number of Americans who agree with that statement since April of last year.
The rise “likely reflects the response of more intense commitment to Trump following the announcement of the federal indictment against him for mishandling classified documents on June 9, 2023 — about two and a half weeks before our June 26, 2023 survey,” the poll said.

Trump was charged by the Justice Department with 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information, one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice, one count of making false statements and four additional offenses pertaining to different forms of concealment. The obstruction charge alone carries a maximum sentence of 20 years. The former president pleaded not guilty on June 13.

It was Trump’s second indictment, and his first federal one, following his decision to run for president in 2024. He had previously been hit with charges in April by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg over alleged hush money payments to adult film star Stormy Daniels; he has also pleaded not guilty in that case.

The former president predicted earlier this month that he would be hit with his second federal indictment, this one over his involvement in the events of Jan. 6, 2021, in which a violent mob stormed the Capitol in an effort to overturns the results of the election.
Trump has frequently been accused of being responsible for the attack, having rallied his supporters that day and urged them to march to the Capitol following his loss to President Biden. The events of Jan. 6 and Trump’s continued refusal to acknowledge that the 2020 election was free and fair have fueled concerns that the 2024 one will also be marked by violence.

Other findings in the survey included “about 40 percent of Americans” sharing “at least one attitude reflecting deep distrust of American democratic institutions” and “20 percent of Americans” believing in “anti-democratic political conspiracy theories about how the country is run.”
The survey used a random sample of 3,543 people with a margin of error of 2.30 percent and was conducted between June 22-26.