2013 Colorado Outdoor Med Garden!!!!

Good day to everyone!
I'm seeing every strain flowering out beautifully under this Colorado sun. I think they really enjoyed the High P tea! At this point I will be hitting them harder than ever with soul synthetics BIG SWELL as well as AN Big bud powder (increasing from .5g/gal to .75g/gal). In 2-3 wks I will run Soul Synthetics Peak as well as top dress some High K lengbenite. With these bottled nutrients and the amended soil I'm very very pleased with the rate of growth as well as the health of each and every plant. Here are just a few shots of some easy to reach plants.

white fire

juicy fruit

dairy queen

Hope everyone is having a good growing season!

thx for the tea-torial garlic train! I can hear the organic purists cringing - bottled nutes oh my!

good solid info here. although i would trade all those nutes for a bottle of age old bloom or pure protein dry
i just like the flavor of fish soluble's like the native brothers before me going back to the himalaya...
but then again i use a few snake oils like "Calcium 25" and mgsul.... both have their detractors in horti circles...
why juicy fruit ?(is it the thai type?? it is a strain i remember from phish shows of yore (99) man i liked that taste like buttered popcorn...
looks banging wish the %humidity would go down for all our sakes here on the western slope...

Released another battalion on the garden, no bug issues to speak of I just love lady bugs on my ladies






Hey Hoonry I'm glad you liked that tea-torial! It was inspired by your inquiries.

Hey there Joedank thanks for stopping by!
We got a lot of moisture here last few weeks of July and getting rains a few times a wk still. I ran out to hdepot and bought 8 of the cheapo box fans and mounted them all over my green house on a 15min on/off timer. As soon as I was able to get that airflow under these beasts, I've been having to water/feed almost everyday, def seeing exponential growth after adding the fans.

I couldn't agree more when it comes to bottled nutrients. That is why I amend my soil and beef up my feed program with benny bac teas. But working closely in the "industry" I get LOADS of free goodies from our wholesale accounts when they want to push a certain line. Before we push it in a 50-200 light facility I or a few others will run it smaller scale, for free! In fact I was gifted 2x 1gal of each of the soul synthetics line after running the full roots organic line and giving "scientific" feedback ("shit was dank"~garlictrain). Also am running full H&G in coco indoors and it's insane to compare steroidal looking ganja vs true organic, bottled nutrients used or not. In fact I tailor each of my gardens to specifically compare different nutrient lines specific products, in order to get the best quality results for the cheapest amount (which with outdoor has always been buying the 50lb bags of "raw" organic nutrient sources, love Sparetime Organics and Down to Earth). However I was asked to test run a "sample" 2.2lb AN big bud powder with the soul line up, as well as an addition to the H&G line up. Having run both without the AN BB I am seeing faster maturation vs the roots organics or fully amended soils indoors, not to mention I've seen the POWER of AN BIG BUD, sometimes you gotta play the weight game...

Next year I have access to a very nice legit spot on 80 acres, so putting them outdoors early and using organic nutrients will be the preferred feed program. This greenhouse I've got running now was transplanted from 1gals to 20gals first week of JULY! Which is why pushed them hard in July to get the size needed before beg flowering in aug and the "final stretch".

On an organic side note:
I remember going to the Area 101 (Laytonville, CA) cannabis cup in '09 and if it wasn't 100% organic it couldn't even be shopped around. Was nuts! tons of heads rolling around with multiple turkey bags full of some of the dankest meds, passing it out, vote for me, vote for me. I remember specifically a Rastafarian and his son sitting in the corner quietly lighting up blunt after blunt as so much herb was passed around it was near impossible to try or adequately judge each and every growers sticky dank chronic. Good thing the real judges were the owners and inner circle of AREA 101 and a winner was eventually announced. Shit I must have left with 2-3 oz mixed bag of buds that just couldn't get smoked fast enough! That was my first introduction into serious WEED WARRIOR status, learning that you work the land organically and it will provide!

I can't wait until the CO scene gets to that point where these big $ "mmed compliant" grows are required to use only organic sourced nutrients, and not spray EAGLE-20 or AVID or any other poisons 1-2wks before take down! Growers with poor growing skills or little to no knowledge, poor grow room build outs, and lack of investors getting products to the growers on time, are all factors in this melodrama. I've seen it, and even been told to do it myself in large grow ops where normally instead of taking the shop vac to buds and plants that were "tenting" from mites, I was "ordered" to atomize the rooms with Floramite! That was my breaking point and I said "fuck that!", and quit working for that facility that day. In fact most karmically conscious "lead growers" quit because of the fucked-up-ness of this shit industry, and went back underground or back to working directly with their patient base as I do.

AS for the "Juicy Fruit", all I know is that it came from a Florida circle about 2yrs ago, have no idea on lineage but def hybrid sativa dom. An the best part and supposedly how it got it's name is it's flowers turn purple (not like Purple Kush, more like Lavender), and it tastes JUST like Juicy Fruit the gum. I got this cut from the Florida connect when it was passed out to a select few. NOT to be confused with Juicy Fruity, or the Juicy Fruit in many of the CO dispensaries. Those are much closer in resemblance to the "heavy duty fruity" indica dom variety. This Juicy Fruit admittedly has a buttery juicy fruit flavor that literally coats your mouth when grown properly (so yummy), and is very upbeat and still heavy hitting enough for my taste . It looks like it's going to be one of my larger yielding strains as well as an early finisher!

As always, good growing to ALL!

good to hear you got morals .
so whats your input on spraying later in flower?? things like mgsul(epsom salts) or ksil (protec or others)
house and garden works really well but not when you scale it up how do i drip feed 50 gal of mix to only 12 girls per geenine ??
i got the same yeild per plant with age old . now i am convinced that foliar feeding at the proper stage based on brix readings is the best way on big girls,

now plants in 10 gallons or under i think treating them like science projects with flower competition nutes is neat an cool to see but my lungs and head see right thru it...
h&g dripclean works wonders for reuseing plastic feed lines . roots excl is neat but based on brix my plants only like it "O.K." cant test roots exuadetes though yet..

Cannabis has been credited with saving my life, and has always been a sacred plant to me, even from the young age of 12 due to a disability related to a botched surgery as a child. It has been my love and passion for cannabis that has driven me to always be learning by doing, and also to humble myself to learn from true masters. I always keep a small portion of my gardens 100% organic to a "tea", as I personally do not consume the synthetic herb I produce (nor do my patients), though it is A+ very clean and out right properly grown and loved.

I wish the CO market would finally move toward organics as my outer circles could give two shits about organically grown "medicine" (it is of course out of ignorance and greed). it's a clean-finished-product, weight-game, bag-appeal, smell-appeal, Kush driven market so most commercial growers I know throw up to 9 plants per 1k, straight outta the aero cloner into 1-3 gal pots of promix/coco whatever, no veg, and hit it with synthetics! most popular seems to be cutting edge solutions full line up finished with bloombastic, the reason being that CES doesn't need to be ph'd in a run to waste application, you can feed it at ph 4.5!!!! (which is what you come up with when you mix at the 5ml/gal golden rule while still maxing out ppm's past 2000!). H&G is also very popular as the "shooting powder" fox-tails at least 2-3 inches of girth per cola and is often used at wk 3 instead of end of 5 so it can be "flushed" for a day or two and harvested at wk 6 or whenever "wholesale med supply" is "running low". nearly all the "MMED legal large scale grows" I've seen follow a similar regiment based on some master synthetic feed chart. FUCK THAT! That's why these giant beaster conglomerates can get away with hiring "laborers/growers", responsible for anywhere from 100-400 lights in a facility and only be getting paid $13-$15/hr. funny thing is I say beaster, because one of the largest med marijuana wholesale conglomerates in the state is a group of Canadian BC growers that supply over 1/2 the dispensaries in the state! An they run synthetics so that at wk 6 it can be cut down prematurely but look finished to the amateur grower or medical marijuana patient who is understandably out of the loop! I know too much and have said too much already....

But to get back to you're inquisition Joedank, I mostly don't spray anything past wk 3 flower other than home brewed lacto b culture, 1:20 in h2o and a touch of molasses for the microbes and for added micro nutrient uptake, occasionally adding 1/2tsp/gal kelp as a "spreader/sticker/surfactant" and additional source of plant hormones/micro nutrients. The exception to this is earth worm casting tea at no more than 250ppm and only on the leaves not the buds but will cease this around wk 5, also using kelp as a surfactant. I try to use as many organic source nutrients top dressed into my soil mix so that all I really need to do is stimulate my micro heard with nutrient and microbe rich teas. I top dress langbeinite at wks 2-3 and again at 4-5 for added sources of k,mag, and sul. Also I use Dyna-gro Protekt in my tea mix as added silica and calcium, but have also used calcarb and oyster shell flower brewed up in a tea to break down quickly.

However recently based on scanning riu threads I came across someone recommending kelp4less.com for organic nutrient supply. They have quite a selection after pouring over their whole site but what really caught me was their silica powder, 65% Silicon Dioxide, 5% potash.

"Add 8 dry ounces of 65% silica powder to one gallon of water. Shake vigorously!
Shake vigorously before each use or dose. Product will settle over time. (shake well) and store solution in a cool dark area.
To be used in conjunction with standard fertilizer or hydrogarden nutrient program.

For Container Gardens:

Use 1 teaspoon Silica concentrate per gallon of water (2.5 – 5 ml / 4 liters) every, or every other watering."
$120 for 15lbs.

Given this application rate I could make 30gal of silica concentrate for $120, instead of buying Dyna-gro Protekt at $30/gal!!!!
This is what learning and being humbled is all about...

wow what a bottomless source of information here! garlic train I applaud you for walking away from a job for being told to use floramite! I have personally witnessed a shop vac being applied to mite-ridden plants and while it wasn't pretty, I still felt ok about smoking the final product. I had a neighbor a few years ago who wound up in ER having seizures - didn't take long for staff to figure out he was an indoor grower who sprayed floramite (without a mask for fucks sake!) - because why? He wasn't the first case they had seen! like the recipe for silica pow - would you recommend that for a plant with very weak stems? joedank I've heard good things about Calcium25 - haven't had a chance to try it but would like to.

as not to blow up your thread i will try to keep it informative.
i like protekt and the silica powder just watch the ph (i use citric acid to correct as it is not super stable and lets soils and microbes choose their own adventure)... i also use kelp4less i order seakelp, humic, tricoderma hazrum , and fulvic... i also use top dressings of diatomaceous earth... the prices are good service is ok...
wow one group does half the meds in rado?? wild...
hoonry- the calcium 25 is my newest addition i am learning the timing of applications really matters as does feeding a well balanced nute regime pre and post.... but i have seen massive results already with only 3 applications but it makes my maters set like 20 fruit per truss!! ill put sum pics in my thread tomarrow

joedank - are you feeding or foliar spraying the calcium25? I heard just once a month foliar is about all they need of it...Garlictrain I can't tell you how much I appreciate an insider's voice on the CO mmj scene - I don't want to corrupt this thread away from nutriotinal information and maybe it deserves a thread in its own right - but I did want thank you for shedding light on the greedy mentality that has overtaken the CO medical scene. It sounds fairly disgusting - and without a modicum of education (that you provide) the general public would probably be happy to buy weed literally labeled "BC Beasters". WIth legality in place now, I see no reason why people would demand premature hydro-chemmy weed once they have been exposed to really good organic weed, if for flavor alone, never mind the health risks. I don't know, I'm idealistic, but I'd love to see countrywide regulations that ensured testing for mildews, molds, pesticides - right now it's a petty mixed bag and a lot of what looks good on the shelf is toxic!

Well someone's got to play the devils advocate and I've seen it from the inside out.

Joedank! Love the info brother, your input is welcome anytime!

Hoonry,
1. yes silica is exactly what helps strengthen your stems cell walls. also making your plants more tolerant to high temps and other environmental stress factors.

2. the reason you don't and won't hear about this stuff (maybe SOMEDAY) is because it's all hush hush. if the real word got out facilities would be shut down asap! and they should be! it is not uncommon for a company to have a handful of legit licensed grow warehouses and be in the process of pulling permits for others, but already growing in said new spot without permits and no one from mmed is the wiser! have even seen a 50 light room 6 wks full bloom get moved to another building on site while mmed inspected the 50 light room to grant a permit to grow, then DENY the permit based on x,y,z and when they left all those 6wk flowering plants moved right back in and finished out, totally undocumented, $$$$ pocketed by the BOSS. have seen a grower one time atomizing e-20 AND avid, wearing shorts, a tank top, and flip flops, no respirator, in a veg room where a group of old ladies were set up trimming one of the rooms coming down. It was fucking tragic as no one there knew any better. CO created a business model for medical marijuana that allowed people to buy into an industry they know nothing about. therefor any corners that can be cut, ARE! and the REAL reason they are creating a model for legalization based on the med industry is because they know they cannot control every gram produced in every warehouse coming down so it's much easier to tax it like alcohol and walk away.

what we really need is the ability to form true compassion clubs/ collectives based on the many many california models! however CO specifically opted to NOT allow collectives to form and grow real medicine for patients who need it most, because they couldn't tax and regulate the meds when they're being GIVEN away, AS THEY SHOULD BE! then any "overflow" can go to a dispensary where the club or collective will be reimbursed through a money pool, trickling back down to the growers and main collective members.

Hello everyone and welcome to the last 4-5 wks of my garden!

I have been camped out in the patch for the last wk and will remain until they fully ripen and are turned into the finest quality medicine!

Looking at the varieties of strains and the approximate flowering time for each I estimate to be between wks 3 1/2 and 4/12, soon I will be bumping up the PK! Besides visual confirmation on bud structure most strains are starting the wk4 bottom yellow leaf drop

Now for an up close introduction to most of the varieties I'm working with. Not much to look at just yet but with the vigor and robust healthy plants they are I anticipate no less than excellent Colorado outdoor medicine.

NOTHING beats MOTHER NATURE and the SUN for the most POTENT and HIGH QUALITY GANJA! (I run most of these strains indoor also and for at least 8-9wks and while they hit hard, they're not nearly as potent as what's grown under the sun!)


(Chemdawg x mass s.skunk)


BIG BLUE


RomKUSH


Hindu


Granddaddy Kong


Colombian Gold


StarFire


Juicy Fruit


WhiteFire


Island Sweet Skunk

Good Growing to All but especially those growing Colorado Outdoor!
May we be blessed enough to have a warm and dry season that extends into OCT!!!
(don't let it snow on your buds it will snap those trichs right off!)

hey looks good garlic train! what Colombian gold have you got, is it the one from world of seeds?

Just stumbled upon this thread! Great work! Finally someone has added validation to my dispensary thoughts! Keep up the good work, seems like you know your shit! Dispensary a cutting early, we need a regulatory service to test the cannabis being sold!

Man those look beautiful. Great work.

Thanks to you all for stopping by and your kind words.
I have been working very hard on this garden and it will be a privilege to show it come to fruition!

Hoonry: Yes it is from World of Seeds and was the absolute best representation of everything Colombian Gold is meant to be! Strong growing, sweetly pungent like over ripened mango, sticky dense buds that leave your fingers oily after breaking up, BEAUTIFUL and SOARING sativa high, quite literally my breakfast toke! AND it finishes in under 9wks vs 100% sativa Colombian Golds that take 13-14wks!!! I will keep this one in the stable for quite some time

Meast: Yes, sad, but all too true.
My best advice for those who can't grow their own or be provided meds through a caregiver who is actually grower savvy, is to find a dispensary that cares about the quality of their product, and is not only focusing on the cheapest oz.
Those dispensaries that are continually selling the patient max to almost every patient who walks through the door, probably see those patients every day, 2 oz, 2oz, day in and out. That is the liquor store aspect of this industry, generally the shittiest most stepped on (keifed) swag goes through these facilities.
I cannot personally recommend any dispensaries as I cannot afford the amount or quality of medicine I produce when going through High-End Organic Only dispensaries, and neither can my patients.
When street price is $150/oz because the dispensary price is $99/oz of shit weed if you designate them as caregiver, it takes away from the entire aspect of producing and using REAL MEDICINE. Then the places who know better and sell clean herb do so at "top shelf" prices and it's still grown with synthetics, IT JUST WAS FLUSHED PROPERLY!
IT'S ALL FUCKED!!!!

Shelby420: Thank you for your kind words!

Just found your thread! Great stuff and very informative for a greenhorn outdoor CO grower. I hope you are staying dry in this unusual wet weather. I was able to get a hoop house up on day one of this mess. Keep up the great work!

looks great!!! hope this rain lets up ! here is a little sour d from my light dep go colorado organix growers,.

Super Sick M8.

Love to do an outdoor greenhouse grow someday, I have the room, just got to get the wifey to buy off on it...lol.....hmmmmm I wonder if there is a diamond for that........lol

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice

Hey everyone!
Today monday is the first dry day in a solid wk of torrential rain here in Boulder CO!

The girls are soaked but hanging in there!

You can see I've definitely got some floppers...

Rain rain go away...

And let us have a bumper crop...

Here's a shot of the juicy fruit, so yummy and should purple out quite nicely in the end!

Everyone's been wondering if we're staying dry, hopefully we get a nice finish of the season compared to this last wk of crazy rain.
I've been cheating I had my fans blowing 24/7 on my ladies, just sealed up and covered all the plugs/extension cords.
It's amazing that these cheap ass hdepot fans will put up with running 24/7 in torrential rain.
An I almost bought 1k worth of real greenhouse fans, ha!

Thanks for everyone stopping by keep growing, stay positive, and stay mota-vated!

An IckyOrgan welcome! Congrats on your first post! However this isn't my first rodeo, outdoor or in Colorado. Thank for the well wishes though!

I wasn't too worried about ya, doesn't seem like your first rodeo LOL. Glad you got some rain break. Keep up the good stuff.