Near
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Sarcasm towards a sentiment that was never expressed.we're all gonna die!!!!!!!
2010: hottest year ever despite solar activity at record low
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So show me the proof that humans were the cause.
FWIW I don't listen to Limbaugh or Beck, nor do I watch Fox.
UncleBuck
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as far as those mountains go, i can't.
as far as the overall phenomenon we are seeing, i know what 99% of the smartest people on the subject say....they say its anthroprogenic. care to explain to me why they are wrong and you are right?
So your one of the 99%? Has there ever been a time when the earth was warmer than it is now? Ever? If so was that also due to Humans? If not it kinda puts a huge hole in the theory, Btw its just a theory, no proof is being provided other than speculation by supposed "Experts" all the while there are just as many people on the other side of the fence who are just as dumb (or 99% smart however you put it) and attribute it to something else.
UncleBuck
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i am not one of those 99%, i defer to the concensus of their expert opinions. they argue about this shit among themselves the same way we argue about whatever we do.
i don't see how hotter temps at some point in the history of the earth does anything whatsoever to disprove the rapid changes that are currently occuring (despite a record lull in solar irradiance, which you cited before as probably the main cause....lolz)
it is just a theory, kind of like evolution or flat earth are just theories. they can be shown to be consistent with the evidence or inconsistent. the people that publish peer-reviewed research pretty much all concur about what is going on.
question for you: what else should we attribute the rapid changes to?
i asked for you to tell me why you are right and the experts are all wrong, you instead tried to plant some seed of doubt which failed to germinate. try again. tell me why the experts are all wrong and you are right.
Near
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Oh, Savage then?
How bout this. I DO NOT WATCH TELEVISION!! Obviously you do.
Is it warmer during the day or during the night?
doc111
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Most of the so called "experts" agree that IF the climate is warming, the ice caps will melt, the salinity of the oceans will decrease and the currents will stop which will push some relatively temperate regions into an ice age. See, the planet will take care of shit on its own.
UncleBuck
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maybe you should let the scientists know about this strange phenomenon called 'day and night'. personally, i have never noticed it.
still waiting for why you are right, and 99% of climate scientists are wrong.
UncleBuck
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cite it or it's not true. pics or it didn't happen. tits or GTFO!Most of the so called "experts" agree that IF the climate is warming, the ice caps will melt, the salinity of the oceans will decrease and the currents will stop which will push some relatively temperate regions into an ice age. See, the planet will take care of shit on its own.
EDIT - actually, wanted to say i agree, the earth will ALWAYS recover. it's us humans who will be FUCKED
doc111
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You should know me better than to throw out some bullshit but you're correct, I should've provided a link. Here ya go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shutdown_of_thermohaline_circulation
UncleBuck
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so let's suppose this speculation turns out to be 100% true...we get some localized cooling in " Iceland, Ireland, the Nordic countries, and the United Kingdom that are warmed by the North Atlantic drift. "You should know me better than to throw out some bullshit but you're correct, I should've provided a link. Here ya go:
how does that do anything change the rapid destabilization of the climate everywhere else in the world?
it is not so much the temp, it is the rapid changing, or instability of it.
doc111
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I have no clue, I'm no climatologist. These currents aren't just in the Atlantic though, they are worldwide so it seems a reasonable assumption that the effects could be global although it would differ in different areas. The interesting thing about the planet is that every action causes some sort of opposing reaction (Butterfly effect or some such shit). We dumbass humans still can't seem to figure out that everything we do causes some sort of unintended consequence. Our giant egoes lead us to believe that we are having some enormous effect on the climate and maybe we are, but as George Carlin said "It's not the planet that is going anywhere, it's we who will be gone!" We have only been recording all of this data on climate for a fraction of a microsecond of geologic time so to make the assumption that things are changing more rapidly than in the past seems kind of strange to me. I know, the geologic record and all that b.s. but that stuff is far from proof of anthropogenic climate change. We definitely should try to make the shift to renewable energy but we need to be cautious. Enough solar panels on the planet could reflect enough of the suns energy back into space thrusting us into another ice age. I'm being hyperbolic, but who knows?
NLXSK1
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The climate has never been stable. Are you saying we are going to try to do that?
Because AS I POINTED OUT the entire effort would make a .1 degree change over 50 years. One tenth of one degree... Do you honestly and seriously call that climate stabilization?
People build houses on cliffs and then are surprised when the cliff erodes... People are stupid.
Over the past CENTURY the earth has warmed 1.13 degrees Fahrenheit Hardly what I would call rapid destabilizing climate.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming, It might double that rate for the next 100, OH NOZ its 75 out instead of 74.
UncleBuck
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by stabilization, i mean making the line climb less steeply. kick some dirt onto the fire rather than douse it with gasoline.
we may not be able to do much to reverse the trend, but that is not to say that future generations won't be able to. i say we should do whatever we can NOW so that it is not already too late THEN.
plus, you might want to cite that ".1 degrees over 50 years" stat....tits or GTFO
UncleBuck
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from your own source: Climate model projections summarized in the latest IPCC report indicate that the global surface temperature is likely to rise a further 1.1 to 6.4 °C (2.0 to 11.5 °F) during the 21st century
85 instead of 74 indeed is something we may want to worry about. should i not run my AC tonight and let my plants get up to 91, or should i keep it on and let my babies enjoy that sweet 79?
Or 75 instead of 73, of course it might all go the other way also, with the coldest regions making up for more of the hot parts sending the average to well below 2 degrees, 65 instead of 75 perhaps eh? They probably won't call it man made global warming then.
Near
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What are you talking about? You know I watch television because I asked you a question? And Savage isn't on television, he's on radio. Was just wondering where you got your far right wing nonsense from and took a guess.