1st Grow DWC 400watt growbox LST

You should definitely wait till they start to recover before switching. I understand that you have a deadline, but I'm warning you even if you switch to 12/12 tonight, you might not make it before Christmas depending on strain.

yeah i understand that they can be 8-10weeks sometimes less then that. from wut ive heard the ones i have flowering times are 45-65 days.
either way, if this grow gets bad and i have to scrap it i may just start over and veg a little longer. if anything ill keep them growing while im out of town. it wouldnt hurt leaving them alone for a few days later on if i get this running smoothly

while changing my res a big mass of roots fell off that were covered in slime from the beneficial bacteria. is this because its eating all the bad stuff and leaving only good? either way im doing a H2O2 bath right now. then back in. i see lots of improvement but now this whole chunk fell off. i think that may be a good sign though?

It's not necessarily a bad thing cause they could have been dead root. As long as there are enough roots left to reach the water then you should be fine. Post some pics when you get the chance.

There are roots in the water still AND i see some new ones on that thing. so thats good. i hope all those broken ones come back twice as strong!

I just cleaned everything, yet again. as i did on saturday. I had put Vermi T in there yesterday which pretty much instantly put slime on roots that had once had NO slime. So that leads me to believe the slime is from the Vermi T and a good thing. So if you see slime in these pictures thats what it is, BUT the slime will be off soon because i put new water new 1/4 strength nutes and 2 tablespoons pergallon of H2O2. I know the slime is from the Vermi T and not the rot because i had gotten rid of the slime and as soon as i put the vermi T it was there.

Well heres a look at it all tell me if you see improvement, from what i can tell, i think i am getting quite a bit of improvement.
I switch to HPS today in hopes of helping the plant stretch a little more, i will be switching to flowering in the next few days, as long as things keep goind smoothly.

12gallons of water
3.75ML per Gallon pure blend pro grow (1/4 strength)
1.5ML per Gallon Pure Blend Pro Flower
6ml per Gallon Cal Mag PLUS
10ml Per Gallon Hygrozyme
50ML per Gallon H2O2 (2 tablespoons)

wont add vermi T for a day or so.


comments? looking better? ideas? help?



the slime is from the vermi T i am sure. it wasnt there before i put it, and i bet tomorrow it will be gone since i added the H2O2 theres all kinds of little bubbles in it.

They look a lot better to me man. I'm glad you got everything straightened out.

yeah me too, i know im not out of the woods yet, still trying to hard to keep it under control but hopefully its good and i got it.

he plants are now under darkness, have been since 4pm. will be in darkness till 6pm tomorrow. when the lights come back on, we will be in flower. I am aware my plants havent fully recovered but im doing it any way. Just want to see what happens, if they die, ill get 2 new clones and start again. no problem. But i will do everything and keep trying to keep these going.

The lights just came on after 26hours of darkness. we are now on day 1 of 12/12 . I noticed the 1st signs of new growth on both plants in a while. the Hindu Skunk was bent from being lst'd and i untied it a while back but it had'nt straigthened out much, but now the top curved up! and then the top and a few nodes have a few new little branches starting to shoot out. good sign?! and the Bogglegum has small signs of new growth also on the top, but still waiting for more improvement of course. But seems like things are looking a like we'll be seeing alot of progress. fingers are crossed

Good news everyone! i see a bunch of new growth, small, but new. definetly new. the hindu skunk has like 6 new little shoots pointing straight up, and the same with the bogglegum, stuff i havent seen before. so i think we are looking good i hope. I put Vermi T in for the last time i think, but i think this is what has helped me so much lately. eating all the bad stuff, it may make everything ugly, but i can't argue with its results. So maybe this grow will end up better than i thought

This is day 2 of 12/12.
I changed the res today because i added the Vermi T yesterday and dont want to leave all that nasty in there for so long. Today i cleaned the whole res, again. Gave the roots/hydroton a bath in H2O2 for about 15 mins. I then Filled the res. with 12gallons of fresh water. new nutes(half strength). and H2O2. So we are all good to keep going, still trying to completely make sure all root rot is gone, hard to tell while using the Vermi T as it eats all the nastys. My roots were dark and slimey (from the Vermi T) and after the wash they look much better again, thats how i know its the Vermi T doing it, if i dont put any more in then all slime will be gone in a few days, i forgot to take pics of the roots/res so i will do so in a bit. but BEST NEWS: Lots of growth on both plants! its crazy how noticeable it is! You'll see in the pics as well, lots of lil shoots on my LST'd babies. Trying to get as much light in as i can as they grow, want to have a few nice tops or something. Other than that, i noticed something might have been munching on my leaves, i noticed a few days ago actually. and today, i found a catapiller! idk how it got in there?! but its gone now. so i think that was the cause of ALOT of my yellowing and dying leaves on my bogglegum.
anyways. heres some nice shots of the new shoots and all better looking plants.
enjoy, and any questions comments ideas help? glad to talk to you guys.

12 gallons tap water
7.5ml per Gallon Pure Blend Pro Grow
7.5ml per Gallon Pure Blend Pro Bloom
6ml per Gallon Cal Mag PLUS
2 tablespoons H2O2 Per Gallon
9ml Per Gallon Hygrozyme.

I feel my nutes are doing well now, maybe can take more, but working on fighting that rot 1st.

Bogglegum:



Hindu Skunk (finally lots of growth see if you can notice it on the tops and on the lowest big branch)


middle of the pic, to the right, tall one, that was about an inch shorter yesterday


hope this turns out better than i thought it would , if my plants would have been healthy and had no rot or anything by now they would have had about 3 weeks veg!

They look a lot better and they have visible growth. Now that you got past the hard part of clearing up your problems you just need to stay on top of things. I'm rooting for ya!

yeah tryin to stay on top of that rot, its crazy how much visible growth i get each day, im hopeing to start seeing alot of new root mass. if i don't, i probably will scrap them and start over, its really hard to tell right now exactly whats going on with the roots.

Looks good ads420!!!

I had trouble some times with hydro and getting a large root mass so i feel your pain. Other than that they look good. Colour is nice and there are not visible burns. Im subscribed!!

Good luck!

nice to have you along dude
well i can account my trouble to root rot (that damn rot!) haha. the discoloration HAS stopped, but it was showing yellowing and all kinds of crap due to the rot. but yah, any thing you used for ur roots that may be of help? either way, just hoping for the best. its my 1st grow, so as long as im learning its alllll good

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any thing you used for ur roots that may be of help? either way, just hoping for the best. its my 1st grow, so as long as im learning its alllll good

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I was using the drip system method and was watering too much. Because of this the root do not have to work/grow to get to water so they just grow downward. Roots that are given more time between waterings feel like they need to grow so that they can reach more water, this makes roots grow downward and outward. Some did not even have root and it was just mush. im surprised they grew still lol.

Is your system constantly have the root in water??? If not, how often do you spray/water the roots?

that sounds similar to my situation. weird. and i also had feeding tubes at one point but took them out when i started seeing roots comming out.

the roots are constantly in the water (not many right now) but i see lots of new huge bright white roots inside the pot, so hopefully they are working to come to the water, not just staying in there as you said.

Day 4 of 12/12
it's amazing how much these plants are growing and how well they are starting to do! The Hindu Skunk is doing better than the bogglegum right now, i guess that makes up for its really slow start haha. the hindu skunk has huge bright white roots inside the net pot all over, looking really crazy! the bogglegum the roots arent there yet much, so hopefully we'll see some soon. I'm finding myself wanting to update daily because there is so much growth on both plants. its awesome, but ill keep the pic updates for when i change the res or when i feel is needed, just so exciting . i LST'd both plants a little more today, opening up their insides to expose more tops. each plant has quite a few nice little tops sticking up, other than this, my battle continues with the rot, but i will continue to fight strong! Seems to be working well so far I think I'm almost ready to be able to bump my nutes up a little bit, i haven't gone to full strength due to all my problems.

the first few weeks of flower they will get huge. in a 24 hour period I've seen mine grow 2"

yeah dude they grow so much. probably 2 inches or more. btw like ur user name

I changed the res today, after putting Vermi T in yesterday, last day on that stuff, i think im going to get aqua shield now just as something i always use, cheap, and i hear effective. Along with changing the res i went with my normal routines, cleaned everything, H2O2 bath for the hydroton and roots. The 11 Gallons new water and new nutes. at full strength now. trying to clear up the Defs. that the plants have been showing due to the root rot, lots of big nice white roots starting to come out of the Hindu, the bogglegum is growing alot and im hopeing to see new roots soon. Lots more growth again today, but probably will be most noticeable tomorrow. especially with getting the nutes back up, speaking of nutes, i think as im running low on some of them already (had small bottles) I will be easing my way into using GH nutes i think. with the lucas formual. as well as switching to buckets for my next grow. using as much nutes as i do on such a big res seems like a waste, when i can be using half as much in a bubblebucket.

10ml Per Gallon Pure Blend Pro Grow
10ml Per Gallon Pure Blend Pro Bloom (SOIL)
(im using half and half to make up for the lack of N in the soil formula, but soil formula works good at the 2nd half of flowering due to high Phos and K)
7ml Per Gallon Cal Mag PLUS
10ml Per Gallon Hygrozyme
2 tablespoons per gallon H2O2

All is well here, working on keeping that root rot down, trying to get the best yield i can hopefully despite the problems ive had.
So far whatever im doing is working.

nothing really picture worthy yet. The plants are LST'd pulled open and im starting to get a bunch of little shoots shooting up.

well thats my little update, feel free to talk with me