1800W HEMPY SCROGs (Vertical/Horizontal) Simultaneously in High Definition! (video)

psilocybindude said:

Oh sorry about the miss understanding...

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haha, it's all good... I would have done the same thing probably (did not expect a moderator to delete the spam so fast, maybe it was a ban & purge kind of thing) I thought it was kind of funny too though after it was made clear I wasn't talking about you! Thanks for hanging out, it's nice to have some people in here... lights just came on, might do some updates pretty soon but I doubt they grew much more over night.

Cool you missed part of my post though lol, sorry i have a tendency to make a post then edit the fuck out of it, also more pics is always better.

Day 5 Flower - Day 30 Total

Nothing much to report, took a video 2 days ago and never edited it so it's pointless... maybe I will get a few seconds of shots today instead, was having technical issues with my computer past 2 days which is rare for me because I am a tech geek through and through lol. Tallest plant is about 20" they haven't stretched much at all yet have filled out a bit.

Should I be experiencing any stretch 5 days into 12/12? Because honestly, I am not really experiencing any... just wondering if I am controlling it that well or if they don't start stretching the first week or something? I may have gained 1-2 inches in the past 5 days but there's plenty of 'filling out' and new healthy growth. Wondering if the fact that my lights are right on the plants if that's helping (vertical light is generally 2-3 inches away from the plants as it's spinning around in it's cage... I would have thought they'd stretch more already in these 5 days though, maybe the boom will start soon or else the intense light and MH is helping me out.

Depends really. My plant didn't start stretching until 16-17 days into 12/12. Grew 10+ inches in less than a week.

wow, that's later than I'd expect... I gotta admit my horizontal SCROG is filling up nicely though (plenty of spots where it's so thick I can't really prioritize any tops) I may have to do a little trimming around there but going to avoid that as long as possible. I don't like trimming nice healthy growth too much if I can avoid it (at least this particular plant) as I love how full it's getting. I have done some pruning/trimming on the others more though.

End of day 30 (Flower Day 5) pics...

now that I look back at 8 days ago the growth looks amazing, when I see it every day it's not so impressive but wow @ the Third Dimension in the back next to the horizontal SCROG...

Day 31 (Day 6 - 12/12)

Things appear to be going all right over here, I should spray again w/ H2O2 solution just in case I do in fact have a PM problem in the works, just hate moving that light to do so all the time I know if I accidentally mist it that it might pop in my face and that would suck. I was doing it before lights out but realized that's not a great time and isn't helping me control humidity any. I am maintaining high 30% RH which I am thinking will be good to inhibit mold production as much as I can without getting too dry. Not sure, but I think my RH is pretty much awesome where it's at and couldn't have really hoped for much better in the mold regard.

Might snap some more pics or a video later on, if I hold off til tomorrow I am sure the difference will be better -- Still can't tell for sure if my mystery plants are Male/Female yet but I am leaning more toward female at the moment -- Hope so.

I'm trimming ridiculous amounts of undergrowth and leaf to get more light penetration, my vert plants are AWESOME (on one side) not so much on the rest though and unfortunately a few of them were LST'd during veg and it was not yet known that I wanted to grow them this way so there's side branching that just gets ambient lighting at best... some of the plants are great but those are the ones closer to the horizontal SCROG and/or under the MH, the one right under the MH is the biggest plant I have and it's growing just beautifully.

My (what is labeled as Wappa) have fully grown 2 and 3 blade leaves everywhere, I don't know if I have messed up genetics or what but they're so bizarre. I'll get some pics of those too, I trimmed a ton off and have about 5 more plants to trim... doing this mostly for powder mildew prevention and some light penetration. Killed several tops/shoots that were runt like but still felt weird taking 3-4 would be bud-sites off at a time.

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The plants are looking beautiful man is that just one under the horizontal scrog or is that two, either way they are all looking great, as far as the 3 blade leaves go i believe that is normal from what i have heard any number of leaves is normal I've even heard of plants that have up to 13 blades...

psilocybindude said:

The plants are looking beautiful man is that just one under the horizontal scrog or is that two, either way they are all looking great, as far as the 3 blade leaves go i believe that is normal from what i have heard any number of leaves is normal I've even heard of plants that have up to 13 blades...

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Good to know on the leaves, im just not used to those ones... Yeah it's just 1 plant (Third Dimension) under the horizontal SCROG, filling up nice it had LST/Fimming etc. all done before it went under it though so already had a bunch of extra growth... I'm pretty happy with that one, and the plant next to it in the back those are easily the best ones IMO... both 3D.

The plants are both looking very nice i wish my plants were looking so good, i don't know what I'm going to do if i fail i was thinking about going dwc or Rdwc but it seems like it could be a lot of maintenance in a very tight space, i might end up trying those hempy buckets you got going on out but fuck i dunno, i am hating adjusting the PH for watering every 3-4 days i can imagine you have to deal with it a lot more than i do plus man that list of ferts you are using is huge i went with my premixed soil to make things easier and more simple but it seems to have just fucked shit up.

I never had any luck with soil but It's because I never really put any effort into growing back then and when I finally did put forth effort I had jumped immediately into hydroponics (I ran DWC a few years ago, loved it) the growth rate is crazy nice and if you can keep everything dialed in (even remotely well) you're usually going to get some nice growth from my limited experience. DWC I found was a little bit of a pain in the ass with SCOG because lifting the bucket lid sometimes was a bit annoying to add nutes and flushing, well that was damn near impossible with a SCROG if you needed to remove the bucket or anything... I had modular screens attached to each bucket which made it work for me.

Yeah, I can't say much about soil as I have no real experience with it... I harvested from soil once but it was a first grow and was not done correctly at all... hell I had a Mercury Vapor outdoor security light thinking since it was big and bright it would work well... it worked, but not that well. LOL

You wouldn't need to use all these nutes though, you could get by on just the Lucas formula (micro & bloom, both inexpensive $25-30'ish a gallon) but you'd want supplements and additives ideally of course... I think a CalMag supplement would likely be a necessity but those are pretty reasonable in price too. A lot of the stuff I have is 'extras' anyway just for a little more boost but not needed I'm sure.

I think the back 3D (next to SCROG) grew another 2 inches since yesterday... my measurement yesterday was roughly 22 and now it's roughly 24 so they're definitely a stretchin'

I have always been a big fan of dwc and i wanted to go with it but the learning curve is steep on hydro from what i have read, i figured i would go with this pre-mixed soil for my first few times and get the hang of things before i jumped in to hydro, this soil is supposed to have everything the plants need but it doesn't seem to be working so well. Like i said i would really like to go with dwc but the maintenance just seems like it would be to difficult to perform on a scrog system unless i built some nice scrog buckets tailor made for my situation, i really am thinking if this grow goes bad i might try those hempy buckets out, it seems like a pretty simple system its pretty much just 5 gallon buckets full of perlite attached to a reservoir that drip feeds so many times per day right?

psilocybindude said:

I have always been a big fan of dwc and i wanted to go with it but the learning curve is steep on hydro from what i have read, i figured i would go with this pre-mixed soil for my first few times and get the hang of things before i jumped in to hydro, this soil is supposed to have everything the plants need but it doesn't seem to be working so well. Like i said i would really like to go with dwc but the maintenance just seems like it would be to difficult to perform on a scrog system unless i built some nice scrog buckets tailor made for my situation, i really am thinking if this grow goes bad i might try those hempy buckets out, it seems like a pretty simple system its pretty much just 5 gallon buckets full of perlite attached to a reservoir that drip feeds so many times per day right?

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Yeah hempy is really easy... you could at least do one just in the corner of your grow or somewhere if there's a small place to tuck it just to experiment even... if you had a little more room you could do the same thing with a bubbler, you can build one so cheap with cheap lower level hardware and just try it. You could just be a natural right away and it could just work for you... I felt really good about it when I did it my first time with no experience just from reading forums (back then Overgrow was the big site I went to.. ages ago lol) but I was on Grasscity and here as well I think under other user names or just lurking a lot.

I only feed my hempy's once a day sometimes... although I have been inclined to go twice a day since they're growing pretty good sized now and the back SCROG takes a lot more than the rest to start draining runoff too... thirsty one that plant is! I have all of them fed by equal length lines and dont have it marked which goes where so I overwater and waste a little with the ones that drain way faster but whatever it's not a biggie since it's a slow flow rate anyway. Hand feeding I did for the first 20 days or so and that was fine, just mixed it up and used a milk container once every couple days until I got just a dribble of runoff as I hated emptying the drain pans too often lol.

My feeding is quite old fashioned and simple too... I just plug the pump in for 2-3 minutes and when every bucket has runoff I'm done... Unplug and boom. Every couple days (unless sooner is necessary) I shopvac all of the runoff that has collected in my drain pans (oil drain pans for some and garden drain pans for others, they were both great sized) then I just empty my shopvac where the sump pump is (biggest pain in the ass of everything is the vacuum part, I find it tedious but whatever)

I have taken so many lower leaves, growth, and crowded leaves off (some perfectly fine, I try to hunt out ones with red stems primarily or leaf damage) but now I have taken (about half a 5 gallon bucket worth) from my plants in past few days and they look so much thinner it's crazy. Hopefully no adverse affects will be had here but I wanted to hinder the environment for mildew/mold and also get increased light penetration and air flow in there -- may have taken way more fan leaves than I should have but we will see... new growth is coming around constantly so I'll just refrain from taking too many more of them from now on so it can fill back up somewhat... pics tomorrow, lights are out and I don't need to do it every day since it's not that exciting yet.

Flower Day 8 (Day 33 Total)

Here are some updated shots of the plants, I got bored and the lights just came on less than an hour ago.