150w HPS Club: Inspirational Resource

The guys at e-conolight have added a round reflector to the 20$ hps looks like about 24" white aluminum not bad for another $18.99. Just mount the reflector and bingo-bango instant grow light. Funny they added what seems to be a useless reflector to a vapor tight , that is exactly what people need to grow ...hmmmmm i think they figured out why they sold so many vapor tights the last few years!

Winkdogg

That is a horrible idea do not buy those reflectors. Using the light in the vertical position sucks, Maybe Half the light gets to the plants as it would horizontally.

They have to be mounted horizontal and all you need to do is get a flat sheet of some kind of metal and bend it over your leg or something. A side panel from an old pc, or whatever. Or a piece of round ductwork from home depot... That stuff already has a seam that just pulls apart so it's like already done for you, just have them cut it to length.

Bent it round, then bend the other way in the middle, Instant batwing. Heck you could even skip buying paint and just polish the metal a little.

winkdogg420 said:

my daughter DELILAH 420..

WINKDOGG

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Ha ha she's quite the cutie!!

Wink, Oregonmeds is on the money bro...Def needs to be lay horizontally for efficient growing.. There are styles of growing that use the bulbs vertically(colluseum style grows for example) but those are kinda specialised grows, or people who have a BIG setup that implements several lights.
and yup making reflectors is a piece of cake, depends on your budget.....If you wanna go real ghetto, one of those LARGE aluminum take-out food trays (find one long enough for the bulb), cut a circular hole on the end as big as the light socket, remove bulb, place bulb thru circ hole, tighten and then use duct tape to hold the tray in position.
OR yup Pc cases work, ducting, etc etc etc etc See what you have laying around .
Hell i've used an oldsmobile rocket 88 V8 rocker cover that i had laying around off an old project

Yeah i have no prob diying check out my current grow 16 cfls safe and sound on a piece of bent ductwork in a double batwing type formation .. I only mentioned the reflector because i thought it was funny they added it after all i have installed many vaportights in resturants and such and the reflector was never needed.


Winkdogg

Ya the horizontal bit is right on the money. unless your really, really good.

nice.......

hey fellows i have a 150 hps steet light can i do smothing to it to brun a 400hp or do i need biger transformer .also how good does buds do in 150 hps thinking veg under 4 florense bud 150hps maby so ideales best place to find 400hps?

MisterMicro said:

Ya the horizontal bit is right on the money. unless your really, really good.

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Please explain those pictures, I cant tell what you have going on there it looks as if the bulb comes out of a pc fan and I'm wondering does the bulb spin at like 1krpm or what.

OregonMeds said:

Please explain those pictures, I cant tell what you have going on there it looks as if the bulb comes out of a pc fan and I'm wondering does the bulb spin at like 1krpm or what.

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hAHA, thatd be trippy. But totally pointless, lol. Ya well The intake is obviously on the bottom, i have one fan inside the ruducer ducting then one more, as shown will be sucking air through the 4 inch ducting. then i figured id throgh a cool tube in there. Im poor, so im forced to mcguyver everything i do pretty much. Im going to hang a bulb in the middle of it with some plummers tape. The fan is on 6 inch ducting, and i cut a pattern of gaps for intake.

The cool tube doesnt quite reach the top, so its not just solely sucking air from the bottom of the tub for exaust like you might worry. I do know a thing or too about grow boxes. I dig that shit. I also put a carpet strip around the fan, taped it tight. Works great to dampen sound/vibrations, and also sits on 6 inch ducting nicely.

Theres one fan that sits in the middle of the lid (OBVIOUSLY) where it exausts through the flex ducting.

Well see how it works, im praying temps will be good to me. My expectations and hopes are high.

Well I hate to tell you this but that cannot beat open air bulb and batwing mounted horizontally. Not even close. If that leaves the bulb vertical you will be lucky to reach 75% of the batwing efficiency. The bulb blocks light itself coming off the end, only 50% or so of what horizontal light out put is.

But it's cool, maybe the temps will be slightly lower. If your ballast is remote mounted you don't need cooltubes with these things at all. Tiny little bulb...

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Well I hate to tell you this but that cannot beat open air bulb and batwing mounted horizontally. Not even close. If that leaves the bulb vertical you will be lucky to reach 75% of the batwing efficiency. The bulb blocks light itself coming off the end, only 50% or so of what horizontal light out put is.

But it's cool, maybe the temps will be slightly lower. If your ballast is remote mounted you don't need cooltubes with these things at all. Tiny little bulb...

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Wait are you talking to me? Verticle growing is the most efficient method of growing IF done properly.

IF it is above the canopy then yes, its the worst way to possition your bulb, and only a sliver of the potential light is put out.

but IF its in the middle of the cannopy (like my design) EVery precious lumen is used.

Heres a image of what im thinking.

Edit: the blue repusents the 360 degees of coverage

And ya im hoping it might run cool enough that i can remove the tube, its like a 1o-15 percent decrease in lumens. But im not going to have any plant matter more than 12 inches away (2' wide tub) so i think it might be alright with the cool tube. Ill lust pack that shit in there. Think i can get 6 OZ?

Your goin colluseum style BOG again MM..
You're both right with your info on respective grow styles. Any bulb mounted horizontally without a reflector and above the canopy is a waste of light, and inefficient in use, installing a batwing reflector will resolve that issue....
Hanging bulbs vertically in a 'regular' style canopy grow, will result in poor yield, but implementing a BOG grow will end with high yield if its done correctly..

The main difference is, bog will tend to result in smaller main cola, but lots of side/lower colas that are of equal size to the main...And it works great for those using lots of clones, and puts out some serious yield.
This would work reall well with short auto strains too, as they would get virtually 90%+ good light coverage..
I wanna do a large BOG grow next yr, but i have one or two last breeding sessions to do before i redesign the cab.

frostythesnowthug said:

Your goin colluseum style BOG again MM..
You're both right with your info on respective grow styles. Any bulb mounted horizontally without a reflector and above the canopy is a waste of light, and inefficient in use, installing a batwing reflector will resolve that issue....
Hanging bulbs vertically in a 'regular' style canopy grow, will result in poor yield, but implementing a BOG grow will end with high yield if its done correctly..

The main difference is, bog will tend to result in smaller main cola, but lots of side/lower colas that are of equal size to the main...And it works great for those using lots of clones, and puts out some serious yield.
This would work reall well with short auto strains too, as they would get virtually 90%+ good light coverage..
I wanna do a large BOG grow next yr, but i have one or two last breeding sessions to do before i redesign the cab.

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Yup. Colluseum, didnt think of that term, good point. Just wanted to make sure mister anti verticle didnt get it mixed up. Shareing is caring.

Well see how it goes, im hopin it will be magical, if you saw the verticle beer keg holder grow on icmag.com, you know the magic i speak of. I want to do the same thing with my 400, as the old adage states, its not in the size, but how you use it. It makes sence to double any previous yeild seen on the given wattage, cause your ading the other half of the light thats stolen when going horizontal. Thats my understanding of it anywho.
my seedlings are starting to get hungary for that 150hps i think. Im going to have to throw um in there very soon. What do you think frosty, 7 zips? Or am i going to need some cheese genetics to get closer to that?

lastertim said:

hey fellows i have a 150 hps steet light can i do smothing to it to brun a 400hp or do i need biger transformer .also how good does buds do in 150 hps thinking veg under 4 florense bud 150hps maby so ideales best place to find 400hps?

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No a 150hps will not run a 400w.. totally different control gear.
How well do plants grow under a 150W????
why not read the whole thread!! there are LOTS of pics of people 150w grows in here.

You can veg under fluoros fine.
Best place to find a 400w??
Cant help ya bro, This thread is concerned with the 150's.
Try Egay, HTG , hydro shops, or electrical lighting retailers.

If you decide to use the 150 street light, you wont be disappointed if you read up on growspace setup,or use some of the advice in this thread and rig it up for maximum efficiency.
But that DOES depend on the size of your growing area!!!

Lol i'm sure you'll get close real easy, i've seen some MAJORLY impressive BOGs.
Patience sweet cheeks, you'll have the new genes soonish

frostythesnowthug said:

Lol i'm sure you'll get close real easy, i've seen some MAJORLY impressive BOGs.
Patience sweet cheeks, you'll have the new genes soonish

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lol, you damn stoners, always taking your sweet sweet time. Yup, i have seen some sick shit on icmag. Im downright competitive when it comes to growing. Aww cant wait to get this going, i have high hopes.

Im just wondering if i should 12 12 from tiny, or kind of do some lst training/topping...

Your call bro...kinda suck it n see affair.

MM if you're still about i'm going to livechat...