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a mongo frog said:

Is this for sure true. Ive heard not and it was only a kill on contact, But stays around for a while. Doubting eagle 20 is systemic same with floro mite.

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I hear they're both because they soak into plant tissues.

It's also the reason why their effectiveness intervals are so long, and why all of those are on the banned list for any product grown for consumption in Colorado.

DirtyEyeball696 said:

When you water they rise to the top as larvae. As soon as the water soaks in the coco use ortho home defense on the top. Usually 2 treatments is all you need.

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That shit is nasty. Don't use it on food crops and yes, smoking weed qualifies.

Dirty eyeball total dumbfuck knowingly poisoningeople! Ha... You a real piece! Do all your patients a favor. Write a list of every product your nasty fucked up weed has seen since the day you planted it! Show it to them. Let them research each individual chemical your trying to convince them to ingest. You don't deserve to be part of the cannabis community you fuckhead!


If you are not capable of having bug free plants at the time you start flowering you need a new job. The only excuse for having the chemicals you are proud to use is for genetic preservation! Meaning if you have something terrible invading your room. Kill you flowers instead of knowingly poisoning people. Clean you dipshit! Use the nasty systemic shit to clean your moms and start the fuck over. Reading your retarded post angers me! The only good thing I see about it is I imagine some of the shit is concentrated in your extracts and with a little luck for all of us your dumb ass will be rendered unable to reproduce!

For anyone else reading this rant..... http://msdssearch.dow.com/Published...fety/pdfs/noreg/233-01023.pdf&fromPage=GetDoc


Not for tobacco.. not for food. concentrated in concentrates. Releases toxins when heated. Yum

This is only 1 of the active chemicals this turd gobbler proudly endorses. Know wonder he likes that snitch bitch buddy. They are both the kind of person that will poison someone for a quick buck... I'd love to meet you face to face and see you explain this in front of the people you charge to consume this bullshit!

Is there a need for name calling and such bigtacofarmer? C'mon....

People need to wake up and think about what they treat their plants with.

If you're treating you plants with pesticides of any sort, specially poisonous shit like home defense, you need to make anyone who is going to be using your meds aware of it. Home defense? really?

a mongo frog said:

Is this for sure true. Ive heard not and it was only a kill on contact, But stays around for a while. Doubting eagle 20 is systemic same with floro mite.

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Eagle 20 says right on the label it works using systemic action and also is not intend for use on food. It is for turf grass.

Imidicloprid is probably the most systemic as it can stay around in trees for years and most vegetables for several months.

Floromite is not a true systemic however it uses what the manufacturer calls "residual control" this is a red flag in my book. It is only approved for use on greenhouse tomatoes. You can wash residue from tomatoes, cannabis resin is sticky.

Avid also uses this "residual control" mode of action . also intended for use on "ornamental s" .
Home defense. Well the first ingredient is classified by the epa as class C carcinogen, and the second active ingredient causes endocrine disruption and the shit stick around for well over a year.

Also most of the above are intended to be sprayed except imidi. Spraying these chamicals is not a good idea indoors, most if not all the labels warnings include long sleeves, head gear, respirator and other gear. I have not seen any one of these products label say they can be used indoors, artificial lighting will not break things down quite like real sunlight.

Tyleb173rd said:

Is there a need for name calling and such bigtacofarmer? C'mon....

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yes! I took it easy on him too, because I know he has shit for brains! Really wish he would reply too.

Bawse has poison kush for cologne!

Bigtacofarmer said:

yes! I took it easy on him too, because I know he has shit for brains! Really wish he would reply too.

Bawse has poison kush for cologne!

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Kind of surprised that he wouldn't have some sort of rebuttal. Not sure how you would justify using shit like home defense on your plants though

Sorry you sprayed at 4 weeks of flower. Maybe try 2-4 weeks into veg instead.


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