12/12 from seed: durban poison, critical, lemon skunk, & auto seed harvesting

All of these are females. The three autos im growing are autoxtreme, supersonic crystal storm, and pakistan ryder. Im using the autoextreme and colloidal silver spray, to make female pollen, and so im crossing it with the pakistan ryder and SCS to make my own femenized auto seed hybrids. They are on 12/12 though, like the other strains, so I won't know if they have the auto flowering phenotype, but what the heck, I prefered to finish my growing this year with some durban poison so thats more my priority. No more growing after this until next year some time

hardware:

2x 250w cfl's (red - flowering spectrum) in a double reflector hood
extraction and carbon filter
PC fan and a desk fan
5x 6L airpots (fucking things leak every time I water them.....who the fuck recommended these to me??!!)
Biobizz LIGHTMIX soil w/ added perlite and garden lime

Nutes:

humboldt nutrients organics 'grow natural' and 'bloom natural'
structural integrity pure silicate for pH up
honey ES mollases
mycomadness soil bacteria/fungi/rhizomes
maybe...just maybe...I will add a dash of PK13/14 during week 4-5 of flower (but I have been urged to put the PK13/14 into the nutrient mix always first to dissolve, before adding the organic feeds)
citric acid if I need it for pH down

I think were on day 16 or something like that......I forgot to make a note and now I have no idea. The smaller two auto's are about 10 days behind the others, for a good pollination overlap. All have been on 12/12 lights from seed.


Durban poison - she has grown the fastest. I LST'd her for the first time yesterday and in just one day she grew another 2-3 inches because I had to tie her down again! Will keep tying her down all the way round the pot if need be. She is showing sex already, so i need to be careful about stressing her.
Critical (royal queen seeds) - should be a nice bit of smoke. Supposedly stays short and finishes quick, but im gonna start the LST when she gets a couple inches taller
there is a lil back up 'Kabrales' (cheese x cheese) in the cup, while the lemon skunk (DNA) is in the pot. lemon is lookin a bit poorly and speckled, so the kabrales will take her place if she don't sort her ish out soon. I will LST the lemon when she is developed enough

Autoextreme on the left there, with one branch still wet with tiresias mist (im only spraying one branch). The second pic has two plants in one pot. yes, two in one pot. Im planning to just LST and cut them back as much as is needed. They are making me seeds not buds, so as long as I get 50+ seeds from each it will be worth it.
The resulting crosses will be: autoextreme (dinafem and dutch passion collaboration - has genetics of 'outlaw' or something) X pakistan ryder (world of seeds - a pakistan landrace), and autoxtreme X supersonic crystal storm (samsara seeds - it has black domina genetics)
ummmmm who put those there? penis envy (in the tiny pot - was a freebie in a promotion from magic-mushrooms-shop.com), cambodian, hawaian, and mckennai strains.

I can't stress enough right now how much I FUCKING HATE AIRPOTS. Just took me an hour to water 5 pots. I get that its great for plants to have air to the roots, but having all the water drip out the sides before it saturates the soil is just a fuckin JOKE. Im really stressed I got shit loads of work to do over the next month and im seriously considering just dumping half my plants now. Whats more, the autoxtreme I've been spraying the last few days with colloidal silver is looking near to death....I know they don't take well to bein sprayed with it but I seriously can't see how any new growth is gonna be able to come out of the crumpled, speckled, yellowing lump of crap that its become. It was lookin so good until I started sprayin it. Im using Tiresias mist, and I know other people have good results......so does anyone know whats going on?? If I could just turn back time three weeks I would stick with my smartpots. If I could turn back by only a week I would ditch all my other plants and just kept the Durban poison and critical and just grown naturally without the LST. Its stressing ME out, never mind the fuckin plant. Growing is meant to be peaceful FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKK. I really need some positive energy think ill whack a few tunes on. PEACE I hope everyone elses growin is goin a lot smoother today

ok I've calmed down a bit now lol I saw a video on youtube and people who use colloidal silver do get sick plants with similar appearance as whats happening to mine, but they do turn out with female pollen sacks after a couple of weeks so im just gonna have to hope n pray that my lil autoxtreme gets through it. Im rooting for you baby! GO GO GO. I was also trippin out wondering if its bad karma to LST a plant, coz its a bit weird. I mean, if a plant has some kind of level of 'feelings' then it must be feelin pretty shit right now being bent over with wires n shit. Its not very attractive to look at. But what the heck. Im not gonna bend her any more tho, im just gonna keep what side branches that are growing out now and just let them grow out how they want, and only use some gentle repositioning from now on lol ah shit im crazy

What's with the ass fingering?

its just a metaphor for how our governments treat us, but it can also be applied to various other areas of life, even breaking rules live on t.v. at the Olympics

Some point in time, somewhere in the universe....

The autoxtreme I've been spraying with colloidal silver. Shes looking alot healthier than two days ago. The tallest branch on the right I have left unsprayed, so I can self pollinate aswell
CRITICAL....hopefully she won't be getting critically sick
DURBAN POISON - lookin good! Im not gonna bend the top over any more now, as you can see the nodes are getting tight at the top end
KABRALES - yes, I ditched the lemon skunk as it was lookin a mess, unfortunately. Luckily I didn't give this cheese X exodus cheese away..phew.
Pakistan ryder on the left and supersonic crystal storm on the right
Hawaiian!!
Mckennai....apprarantly Mckennai strains don't exist....but anyway, the company sell this as one of their most potent strains, and they do indeed taste very very inky. Should be a colourful summer!

Beautiful flushes man, but looks like you need a good bit more FAE in that last pic, got the white fuzz creeping up the stems. Should be some NOM NOM NOM real soon!

thankyou, I can't say I worked hard for them tho :-/ I bought the mycelium already developed just to save time. what's FAE?? Yeah NOM NOM NOM lol I can't wait but not gonna go crazy till end of May. I got some Cambodian just poking out of the vermiculite in another box and some miniature penis envy strain that is just starting to fluff up over the mycelium

FAE = fresh air exchange Possibly that's the case but both sets are in exactly the same grow bags and in the same location too. I only open them once a day to spray, any more and I risk contamination coz I probably don't live in the most hygienic of environments lol I think its just the strain tbh. They are all growing in different ways. Same as the last time, I had some Orissa India that yielded like the Hawaiian have, some treasure coast that yielded (and looked...hmmmm) similar to the 'Mckennai'

okay, I just did a bit of reading and seems like your on the money. Ill see if I can get a fan blowing some air round the bags

It's ok to fan them a bit more now that everything is colonised, they're a bit more resistant to contamination at this point. I think localized fanning on the bag is better than a fan blowing a bunch of air around as most contaminants in your house are at floor level, this would kick more up than just opening/fanning the bag 2-3 times a day rather than 1.

Doesn't mean anything is wrong with your mushies, just not 'ideal' conditions. They're obviously growing just fine, and your flush is wall to wall so good job there! To most people you might share em with, they'll be more impressed with the size and such than looking at the fuzz. It's better than having too dry an environment IMO.

Thanks for the rep, and good luck with your breeding!

ok thanks man. I have removed made sure the fan is not blowing round them, and Im gonna be opening them once in the morning and at least once in the evening. THanks for your help

I have decided to unbind the CRITICAL and DURBAN from their wires. I snapped one of the main side branches on the Durban today and I'm done with this experiment lol Too much stress for me. Im just gonna take what I get from them

Girls are looking good, pics to come tomorrow or the next day. Durban is popping up hairs all over now, id say shes been flowering now for 2 weeks or more. Since I took the wires off her shes sprung right up towards the light, but still has a really low and dense profile due to her S-shaped main stem lol. The critical and kabrales are lookin healthy but not as advanced as the Durban yet. The critical main stem also has a slight curve in it which has allowed a couple of lower branches to grow out. My autos are also all lookin great too, but running out of CS :-O sorry about no pics

a few days later

Autoxtreme flowering.......can't see any male flowers yet but Its supposed to take a bit longer for them to show...
critical (was LST's for a few days then unbound) lookin like a lil bush at the mo lol
Durban poison flowering nicely, weird S shaped stem after LSTing for a few days before changing my mind
kabrales- same age as the autos
SSC at the back, and the other is PR
group pic. its reaching 27oC in there now already, and it aint even sunny outside......uh ohhh not long now till I have to reduce the light output me thinks

lowblower said:

a few days later

View attachment 2612694View attachment 2612696 Autoxtreme flowering.......can't see any male flowers yet but Its supposed to take a bit longer for them to show...
View attachment 2612697critical (was LST's for a few days then unbound) lookin like a lil bush at the mo lol
View attachment 2612701View attachment 2612703 Durban poison flowering nicely, weird S shaped stem after LSTing for a few days before changing my mind
View attachment 2612708kabrales- same age as the autos
View attachment 2612711SSC at the back, and the other is PR
View attachment 2612706group pic. its reaching 27oC in there now already, and it aint even sunny outside......uh ohhh not long now till I have to reduce the light output me thinks

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It's actually surprising what an extra bit of air movement does to the ambient room temperature. Try adding another small(ish) fan to your room if you can, see if that drops the temps a little.

I've taken an interest in your Durban Poison, was it from Dutch Passion by any chance? If so, what nutrients are you feeding and how heavy?

hsfkush said:

It's actually surprising what an extra bit of air movement does to the ambient room temperature. Try adding another small(ish) fan to your room if you can, see if that drops the temps a little.

I've taken an interest in your Durban Poison, was it from Dutch Passion by any chance? If so, what nutrients are you feeding and how heavy?

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yeah man its dutch passion's gal dem. Shes a beaut, I got 8 more fem seeds for the future, so one day ill try incorporate that Durban taste into something else....maybe an auto!?? I could even do that on this grow. Could cross the autoxtreme with the Durban a bit, n save the seeds for a future breeding project.......I can't wait to get this Durban in heavy flower, I just wanna smell her, if nothing more. mmmmmmmm I can taste the rift valley wofting through my grow cupboard already, got a sweet hashy taste so far but will see how it develops when THC starts popping up

and im using Humboldt nutes organics, standard strength (about 1ml/L) Ive only fed the Durban once, im gonna water them all today and then will be feeding every other watering

Today was the most epic feat since the relocation of the Abu Simbel temple complex. I couldn't take those airpots any longer, I had to decide whether I should repot them in my smartpots while theres still a chance of them not getting shocked.......or risk going insane at some point over the next couple of months. I was literally kneeling down in front of one of my pots for about 20 minutes (for each pot), emptying the runoff into a jug, refilling the water can, and watering the plants again and again and again just for the water to trickle out the various gaping holes in the side of the pot. Maybe some mediums can stop that happening, but this soil really can't be watered in these pots, unless you don't mind refilling your watering can with the same amount of water each time from your drip tray for about an hour, coz that how long I reckon it would take. I opened up each one, one after another and transplanted them into 1.5 gal smart pots. I took a photo to show the soil profile; wet for about a centimetre, then dry for 10 inches, then wet for the bottom centimetre. Theres no point me adding soil bacteria if it isn't actually colonising any soil, so that's probably already about 3-4 weeks behind schedule too. Im the kind of person who is pretty patient with things, but I was seriously about to crack. So yeah, transplanted them all this morning. The Durban and autoxtreme transplants are a bit sketchy to say the least, but the plants seemed ok an hour later... Im not counting on the Durban taking well to what I did because she was just starting enter a rapid flower phase, but seriously, better than her being crushed under a ginormous hammer

Peace has been restored to the galaxy
I think these are the start of pollen sacks!
Kabrales transplant went very well, lucky my GF was here to help lol
Durban transplant could have been better but she looks happy
Critical
Peace
Second flush Hawaiian - nice n meaty these one
Pot was still light in weight, and as you can see most the soil is still dry, after about 20 minutes of watering. F**K u airpots bye bye
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