11/9 the day legal pot died

roseypeach

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This just happened to be an heirloom strain. I think we underestimate cannabis. Anyway I've got you guys here and I'm pretty happy for that. We may not always see eye to eye but it doesn't matter we support one another anyway.
That's what good folks like us do. I've been talking to you for several years now, it's nice to have friends on the forum (like yourself) that don't troll and badger me. I also appreciate the many times you've stood up for me ;)

Cannabis is the greatest gift to man, as long as the FDA doesn't take it over and pharmaceutical companies don't fuck it up, I think we'll be alright. I'm predicting legal pot by 2020 here in our little corner of the Bible Belt as we've got several good people in office that are helping to push it along.
 

twostrokenut

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yes, DESCHEDULE!!!

schedule two means it can be used, but only pharma can produce, package, and distribute it through doctors. so NO GROWING, SMOKING OR INDIVIDUAL PRODUCTION.

is that not a big deal? you can't grow tobacco, you have to buy it. you can't make alcohol, you have to buy it. is that what you want with pot? to limit to a handful of fda approved strains and all else is destroyed, with the dea to enforce it?
I can't tell if you're kidding or not. I grow tobacco every year and make a shit load of wine too.
 

curious2garden

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That's what good folks like us do. I've been talking to you for several years now, it's nice to have friends on the forum (like yourself) that don't troll and badger me. I also appreciate the many times you've stood up for me ;)

Cannabis is the greatest gift to man, as long as the FDA doesn't take it over and pharmaceutical companies don't fuck it up, I think we'll be alright. I'm predicting legal pot by 2020 here in our little corner of the Bible Belt as we've got several good people in office that are helping to push it along.
I hope so hun. By next year things will be much clearer.
 

squarepush3r

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FDA recommends scheduling but the DEA decides and enforces. Essentially the states are side lining the feds. With CO and CA legal it's to big to stop now. Just watch. Once CA has a taste of the revenue ..............

1/2 of the states have medical now and with Sativex finishing Stage 3 clinical trials it will be re-scheduled. That will not stop recreational pot. We still use etoh in medicine LOL. Further Marinol/Dronabinol is a schedule III so why would they make the full plant extract a II?

This fear mongering is very sad.
FDA has their own enforcement.
OK, what the heck has happened here? Suddenly there are polite, intelligent adults posting.

Trump really has made America great again!
you racist white supremacist small dick nazi go drink bleach.....





j/k i dont know maybe people are just burned out from the election
 

twostrokenut

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you are right, perhaps i figured you would understand the correlation and see the humor in it. i am, by the way, a notorious smart ass. i like to laugh and fuck around, it's better than dealing with pain and an inevitable end. so, to clarify, i'll explain my examples...

willow bark isn't illegal. but you can't make aspirin and sell it without fda approval.

as far as i know, it is illegal to grow tobacco privately in sc. you must have a license. not only my family (on the farm i grew up on) taught this, but it was well known in our county, and all surrounding. i don't feel like looking it up, but i've only ever seen on farm in my area with tobacco, and they DID have a license. this means you are probably right, or that it is legal some places but not necessarily others...

my family still has a grape vine brought back from italy at the end of wwII. we also grow scupernomes and muscadines. there was a gallon limit when i was young, don't remember what, but homemade wine and beer are all over here in fall/winter. you can't make whiskey, at all. illegal. no stills permitted whatsoever. so no selling, no whiskey legal. get caught with a still and no license, and it's prison.

ethanol fuel permits are ethanol fuel permits. you can drink it, but you better not get caught if you are permitted. they do regular inspections...

so if i'm unreliable, oh well, i guess that's what google was invented for. however, the fda and pharma aspect is a very real threat. try to make and market percoset if you don't believe me. i'm not out to 'bring you around' to my way of thinking, i only want you and others to think, and find out. grab an x-file, the truth is out there...
No shit lol I am literally drinking a 15% 2yo scuppernong wine right now. Small world.
 

twostrokenut

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Got it -- "I like to fuck around". I shall take that as truth sir.

Tobacco is legal to grow, even in backward states like SC. I don't smoke it but like to get facts straight.

I have a half acre of wine vines on my property in the Willamette Valley. I get about 600 bottles or 120 gallons of wine from it every year. OR legal limit for home wine production -- 200 gallons for 2 adult household.

Are you involved in the movement to legalize or an interested observer?
Backwards huh? Permit to sell your 600 bottles of wine at local markets and co-op establishments is only like 200 bucks.
 

Fogdog

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Backwards huh? Permit to sell your 600 bottles of wine at local markets and co-op establishments is only like 200 bucks.
Heck no. I built a wine cellar, have it all stored in temperature controlled conditions and it's all mine for personal use, gifts and cooking with. You are right about the economics. 600 bottles wouldn't be worth the effort to license, bottle, market and sell, account for, pay taxes and on and on. It's good wine and I enjoy it. Pinot Noir, Pinot Gris, Chardonnay and Marechal Foch. Friends and family already know what they are getting for Christmas. I'll show up at Thanksgiving with a couple of cases and let the good times roll.

The "backwards" comment was a jab at somebody else who had already served notice that he does same. Not intended to offend the common reader.
 

Singlemalt

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Especially when the government holds the US Patent to all thing cannabis. A plant. Since when do plants get patented?

Which tomato patents do they hold?..surely the Beefsteak.
They get patented when some human entity has altered the genome in a documented and specific way to be proprietary, It's not new and has been done for years. No one can patent a plant, they patent a hybrid that they created
 

twostrokenut

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Heck no. I built a wine cellar, have it all stored in temperature controlled conditions and it's all mine for personal use, gifts and cooking with. You are right about the economics. 600 bottles wouldn't be worth the effort to license, bottle, market and sell, account for, pay taxes and on and on. It's good wine and I enjoy it. Pinot Noir, Pinot Gris, Chardonnay and Marechal Foch. Friends and family already know what they are getting for Christmas. I'll show up at Thanksgiving with a couple of cases and let the good times roll.

The "backwards" comment was a jab at somebody else who had already served notice that he does same. Not intended to offend the common reader.
Ya me too. No cellar but I get 10 to 15 carboys going sometimes. Mostly personal, makes a great gift.
 

twostrokenut

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No it isn't. Maybe the permit itself does, but there are other and very expensive regs one has to go through to be eligible for the permit. The Fed taxes and oversight on commercial alcohol production is crippling; then the state
well shit guess I have to just charge a bottle deposit only, wine is free.
 
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