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So if you where keeping the same plant going(clones) you could change the ratio of red to blue, this would control the stretch in theory but growing from seed, wouldn't know if 2700k or 3500k is the best light?

I have always gone for short stocky plant(strains) don't see the point of growing a tall stretchy strain.

So you can pull off 1.5g per watt, 1lb in a 3ft x 3ft = about 550g m2, that's a massive yield in this space. guessing the average grower can pull just over half this yield. I would be happy with 450g m2

I agree, If the plants not receiving enough light but also big temperature swing night/day, stretchy plant (sativa genetics), and low airflow cause wide node spacing more than anything else.

Guess I have always used HPS, I flower my plants off under the HPS , never notice the stretch/HPS causing large node spacing. This was one of the plants under my led bulbs just under 3000k (purple punch) and my plant under the HPS (2000k) In general my plants grow between 2-3 foot tall...

What about your own experience? my experience is stretching is cause by genetics, lack of light or the environment. Few years back I tried HPS vs MH and different in the stretch(first 3 weeks in flower), height was so small, its not worth thinking about(HPS crop size was larger), my point is...

I have read this endless times on the net, but 50% of your growth/stretch is in the first 3 weeks in flower. You can look at endless grow diary's on here, some HPS and some LEDS, on average the plants grown under HPS are no more stretched than the ones grown under LEDS, I had a HPS over half my...

Incredible Bulk for a good quality and a massive yield purple punch is a really high quality but a slightly smaller crop. both short flowering strains

Sorry fellow, TBH you have no chance, 3/4 is a 3ft x 3ft filled with 20 x 12" colas, its not easy to pull off but it can be done.

I don't think 2000k vs 4000k makes any real difference, its down to the environment and the plants getting enough light, I have vegged plants under a HPS(2000k), there short and stocky, no problem, sure there are loads of growers that still do this.

3ftx 3ft SCROG buds area little on the small side, as your 3 weeks in flower 12/12 I would say 4-6oz's

Here some pictures, 54 days in flower 12/12, just under 8 weeks some close up bud shoots I have trimmed all the fan leaves off and most the sugar leaves, cut the main stem, I will leave them till next Sunday trim the rest of the buds.

Here my plants just before chopping them,(fake YouTube account)

Just before the lights go out, I think the plant heal them self at night(what I have heard over the years, don't know if it's true) Gives the plants 12 hours to settle in.

I have always stopped watering my plants 3 days before harvest, I want the cut fan leaf stem to be dry, so the liquid from the stem don't drip into my buds, when I harvest my plants, I want the humidity to be as low as possible, just after chopping my plants the humidity goes up, take a day to...

Seedling or young plants in veg will do great in cheap compost from your local garden centre with 10% sharp sand under a few led bulbs. I could buy the compost(£5) and cheap lights bulbs(£12, bulb holders £10) to veg 6 plants in 2.5ltr pots(£6) wire, plug, and some timber(£15) In total less...

I brought a fan speed controller for my rvk fan, 500w heater on 9am -9pm 18c 600w hps and 450w led on at night Under the 600w its 30c and under the leds its 25c The environment temps and humidity is really important.

Not all soil mixes Are the same, a poor soil mix can really slow the plants down in veg, a good soil mix and the plants will grow fast, just as fast as any plants in coco. Most Growers don't add enough sand or perlite and often need to grow in a larger pot From dropping the seeds in a cup of...

That's a great idea, I alway let my plants sit in a small amount of run off.

I would use a greenhoue tube heater between the pots,