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Well here we are with another round. They are deff getting bigger and gonna repot tomorrow and probably go with 3 gallon pots. Tons of budsites showing. Will try to do a better pic set with some macro pics showing the budsites

Skip the light mover and just stick with simple GH nutes and with the money you save pick up a second 357 and pull down more bud :-) Haven't tried Power Plant but was just researching it and sounds very interesting. I'll deff watch your journal.

Okay I'll bite! If the new CREE XP-E series (I'm assuming these are the one's you are talking about) are available at bulk wholesale price for $3.44 each for the cheapest 3W Red and $2.43 for the cheapest Blue (and that's in a 2W cause I can't find a 3W Blue in their new series and that's...

I think "footprint" is easily one of the most misrepresented statistics in the lighting industry. I grew with HID for about 12 years and I remember the advertised "footprint" of a 1000W HPS was 10ft by 10ft but pretty sure that was for growing lettuce :-). Personally I found anything bigger...

When I grew with Procyons before. The buds were hard as rocks at the top. Biggest issue was penetration and to get coverage I hung the lights a bit too high so they didn't penetrate and produce density further down the plant. I think the biggest issue with even the good LED companies is that...

What style you gonna grow? The only thing I will say is that these lights are totally tailored for a person running a few tall plants. For sea of green or scrog I would go with the ISIS. These lights have huge penetration and it would be kind of a waste on short plants. If you wanna see an...

Love all the different colors......lookin seriously cool :-) Great pics man

I thought they were made by Santa.......freakin dyslexia If the only thing you need to worry about costs $200 per year minimum (2 bulb replacements a year).....I'd say that's a pretty sigificant expense. IR doesn't bother me so much as RF. 1000W ballasts are a huge RF transmitter and there's...

Well another round of pics an pre-flowers are clearly visible. Plants are super healthy. Took one pic with the flash on to get a feel for the green in natural light. Also snapped a pic of the inside of the 357 to see the heat sinks. There is six fans in it.

Lifespan is certainly one issue with heat. I'm not sure if the horticultural LED's have the same tolerance and the commercial lighting LED's I'm more familiar with but I know that for those one's we had to be careful where we were using them as when ambient room temp went up by 20F the lifespan...

I've got an ISIS that I use for my little guys and I can absolutely tell you it has a heat sink. I will post some pics later on when I have a minute to pull the cover off. As for giving Blackstar a bad rep.....that's not the intent......what I suggested is that they are a product that will...

No prob amigo....I can't figure out how the search engine works on here either. Seems to be pretty hit and miss. The pics he posted are on my grow journal page 7. Just click the link in my signature.

I think the Blackstar is a cheap LED panel and won't perform up to the benchmark set by the ISIS in this grow. Props to LedBudGuy for providing me with the information to figure that out. Thanks to HudsonValley for pulling a Blackstar apart and taking pics to show it didn't have a real heat...

@devilspawn what style of hydro you running? What title is your journal? cant find it but I'm not so good with the search function :-)

Oh yeah and a sneak a peak at the next generation getting started. They were rough when I got em as it was an order for someone else who didn't pick em up so they sat around for a week but they are bouncing back fast under my ISIS 170. Purple Kush is gonna be the next run :-)

I think where LED and HID really make sense is if you are having trouble maintaining a warm enough room which actually can be a problem when its -17F outside (which it is here right now). I've seen a few growers on this forum and other forums who add heaters and all I can think is if you have...

Well here's the ladies doing great, just starting to see pre-flowers. Crazy healthy and huge leaves.

I've never done from seed but clones definately do really well under the LED's. I really do feel that the light is more tuned in for them and there is not nearly the radiating heat and UV and they don't get stressed. You will definately see the most lush green plants you've ever grown. With...

The panels I have use actual heat sinks with the fins or ribs just like the ones for a computer processor. Much more surface area so much more cooling. I'll try to get some pics up for you.

Hey I dunno....I'm just guessing too. So ask your electrician buddy to bring over his clamp-ammeter (I think they all use them) and plud in your 240W Blackstar and see what it reads for amp draw.