greenghost420
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great thread!
Making propylene glycol / vegetable glycerin tinctures for e cigs
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I couldnt wait to tomorrow.
I placed mine in the fridge for about an hour.
Then I loaded it in my clearo, about 0.7 ml.
Love the taste, love the smell.
It's right between vaporising in my volcano and having a spliff.
I love it!!!
Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction Grow Godess
I placed mine in the fridge for about an hour.
Then I loaded it in my clearo, about 0.7 ml.
Love the taste, love the smell.
It's right between vaporising in my volcano and having a spliff.
I love it!!!
Many thanks for pointing me in the right direction Grow Godess
So what did you think?
My girlfriend and I took some of mine this morning, we both love it.
With in 5 min you feel a the medication kick in.
I think the effect are closer to smoking kief than anything else.
The taste is right in between vaporizing direct herb and smoking keif of a bong.
I also tried the oil in a different clearomiser, the Aspire BDC Clearomizer. I think it's too tick it seem to have jammed it.
The other clearomiser is supposed to be more performant than the one we use, but liquid need to be like 25%VG / 75%PG so I will add more PG to it.
I also got some black cherry flavouring in that , so I might add just that too. (The idea here is that some neighbours complained in the past about the medication so I want to be a good neighbour).
So fat so good
I love my experience.
My next batch will be made of more product but the product will be 10g of vaporized product that created one bag & 10 g of product that vaporized 2 bags.
I want to do more test with different stuff. I eventually will try to extract on kief alone. I will maintain the 30 second shake period, I might just spin it smoothly instead of shaking aggressively.
I will substitute the cheese cloth for paper coffee filter, the cheese cloth keeps all the best alcohol. I'm also going to use a 2nd metal coffee filter to retain the product while letting the whole liquid come out (I leverage the cork of the mason jar to retain the product, I think it kept some good alcohol).
I have 2 questions that I need to resolve.
I wonder what's the maximum amount of cannaboid that can be absorb in the alcohol. Like that's the maximum grams of product I should put per ml of alcohol to ensure I'm not losing product.
What are the 2nd and 3rd wash?
I'm not sure I understand this, I think it's using the same product over a fresh new amount of alcohol. I cant find the detail about it right now.
More later
My girlfriend and I took some of mine this morning, we both love it.
With in 5 min you feel a the medication kick in.
I think the effect are closer to smoking kief than anything else.
The taste is right in between vaporizing direct herb and smoking keif of a bong.
I also tried the oil in a different clearomiser, the Aspire BDC Clearomizer. I think it's too tick it seem to have jammed it.
The other clearomiser is supposed to be more performant than the one we use, but liquid need to be like 25%VG / 75%PG so I will add more PG to it.
I also got some black cherry flavouring in that , so I might add just that too. (The idea here is that some neighbours complained in the past about the medication so I want to be a good neighbour).
So fat so good
I love my experience.
My next batch will be made of more product but the product will be 10g of vaporized product that created one bag & 10 g of product that vaporized 2 bags.
I want to do more test with different stuff. I eventually will try to extract on kief alone. I will maintain the 30 second shake period, I might just spin it smoothly instead of shaking aggressively.
I will substitute the cheese cloth for paper coffee filter, the cheese cloth keeps all the best alcohol. I'm also going to use a 2nd metal coffee filter to retain the product while letting the whole liquid come out (I leverage the cork of the mason jar to retain the product, I think it kept some good alcohol).
I have 2 questions that I need to resolve.
I wonder what's the maximum amount of cannaboid that can be absorb in the alcohol. Like that's the maximum grams of product I should put per ml of alcohol to ensure I'm not losing product.
What are the 2nd and 3rd wash?
I'm not sure I understand this, I think it's using the same product over a fresh new amount of alcohol. I cant find the detail about it right now.
More later
Dannoo93
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Hi!
Dont forget to give us some news on your results
I know I need to test it but just ate a brownie lol and I got to do a decarb test for someone here to
Update in ecig testing it now
Dannoo93
I've done more test with my QWISO, previous PG and previous VG extraction.
I've actually merged all 3, I've got a good consistency going while keeping higher cbn rate due to fact that I dilute with PG that isn't 0% cbn, even if it's closer to 5% I think it's better than 0%.
I wouldn't work to get the PG extraction, I'm doing it cause I think it's sad to see it go to waste. I had about 45 ml...
Adding these enforce the flavors and the VG increased the amount of vapor produced.
I think the mix must be about this by now 20% QWISO 70%PG 10%VG.
I'm out of QWISO but it want to try 30%QWISO 60%PG 10%VG
I'm prepping my next extraction, still small. 8g of vaped goods, french pressed into 50 ml of alcohol.
Then the standard long evaporation.
Ill get back in a few day for results.
I've actually merged all 3, I've got a good consistency going while keeping higher cbn rate due to fact that I dilute with PG that isn't 0% cbn, even if it's closer to 5% I think it's better than 0%.
I wouldn't work to get the PG extraction, I'm doing it cause I think it's sad to see it go to waste. I had about 45 ml...
Adding these enforce the flavors and the VG increased the amount of vapor produced.
I think the mix must be about this by now 20% QWISO 70%PG 10%VG.
I'm out of QWISO but it want to try 30%QWISO 60%PG 10%VG
I'm prepping my next extraction, still small. 8g of vaped goods, french pressed into 50 ml of alcohol.
Then the standard long evaporation.
Ill get back in a few day for results.
Dragon311
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Hmmm.....I'll have to experiment with grain alcohol in a future run. I wonder if that's what's giving more flavor as opposed to using iso?
I just wrapped up my second run of QWISO. I used another 14g of high quality Super Lemon Haze, this time I did 3 quick washes with the material. Now I just need the fan and time to do their thing.....
This time I have an iTaste SVD to vape my home made juice
I can't wait to try it out with that!
I just wrapped up my second run of QWISO. I used another 14g of high quality Super Lemon Haze, this time I did 3 quick washes with the material. Now I just need the fan and time to do their thing.....
This time I have an iTaste SVD to vape my home made juice
I can't wait to try it out with that!After a few days of further experiment and vaping, I want to return to this.
The VG kind of alter the taste a lot. I didn't notice cause all I had left was some cherry flavoured QWETH (QWISO but replacing ISO with Ethanol). But with my 2nd batch... it add some sugary and it really dampers the taste.
Alto I enjoyed the more vapour I am really disappointed how much I reduced the tastiness.
2nd thing vaped goods work well, just increase the product to alcohol ratio, do maybe 40 sec wash. Only 1 wash. I wouldn't suggest more wash the plant material already contains less THC... The taste is ok but not as good as when I did with my purple khush.
It gets you there in a few more hit.
So going forward I'm not sure ill add back glycerine in a non re-flavoured QWISO or QWETH.
I'm going to try 2 wash on my next extraction, I'm also considering upping the quantity to 28. But I think it will try with 14, and maybe wait a few days to make another extract with 14 of the same buds and maybe 1 or 2 g of kief too see the impact.
I plan on making another batch using vaped goods and kief so I want to see how kief will impact the final product.
Dragon311, I know what you mean! The excitement of your first hit! Be patient, it's worth the wait.
Also a tip, when your done waiting for the evaporation, put it in the freezer for maybe 2-3 hours (I know more wait time hey!) but it's really worth it when you scrape it off! makes the thing way less sticky because it's frozen.
Then it's longer to purge but it's worth the 1/3 rd scraping time!
Dragon311
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I know what you mean, I've been using my first batch in the more portable iClear16, and the freedom that enables is very nice. Now I have my second batch done and have been using that in the SVD, and its killer. I only mix PG into mine. The first batch was probably 70% hash/30% PG quite thick...I ended up diluting it more as I went along. This last batch is probably more like 50/50 as it's much more viscous. I don't care about how big my vape cloud is, because I hold that shit in, lol. The SVD hits like a champion though, I'm heavily considering it as replacement for my Zong!
I ended up with about 6ml of juice, using 2.5 grams of hash oil. I filled up an iClear 30 & 16, as well was about 1.5ml extra.
I'll think about freezing it next time...I just wouldn't want it to go flying all over the place once frozen and scraped. I have some of my high quality kief I got from my dry ice sugar trim extraction (about 3g)...I dunno if I want to use it my juices yet... I already used up the lower quality kief in just general usage since I've had it
I ended up with about 6ml of juice, using 2.5 grams of hash oil. I filled up an iClear 30 & 16, as well was about 1.5ml extra.
I'll think about freezing it next time...I just wouldn't want it to go flying all over the place once frozen and scraped. I have some of my high quality kief I got from my dry ice sugar trim extraction (about 3g)...I dunno if I want to use it my juices yet... I already used up the lower quality kief in just general usage since I've had it
Grow Goddess
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I know what you mean, I've been using my first batch in the more portable iClear16, and the freedom that enables is very nice. Now I have my second batch done and have been using that in the SVD, and its killer. I only mix PG into mine. The first batch was probably 70% hash/30% PG quite thick...I ended up diluting it more as I went along. This last batch is probably more like 50/50 as it's much more viscous. I don't care about how big my vape cloud is, because I hold that shit in, lol. The SVD hits like a champion though, I'm heavily considering it as replacement for my Zong!
I ended up with about 6ml of juice, using 2.5 grams of hash oil. I filled up an iClear 30 & 16, as well was about 1.5ml extra.
I'll think about freezing it next time...I just wouldn't want it to go flying all over the place once frozen and scraped. I have some of my high quality kief I got from my dry ice sugar trim extraction (about 3g)...I dunno if I want to use it my juices yet... I already used up the lower quality kief in just general usage since I've had it
I cannot agree anymore. You are 100% correct in my opinion. The SVD rules as far as I am concerned, especially with the iClear30 attachment that it comes with. I fully agree agree about just mixing with PG USP too. http://highdesertvapes.com/products/USP-Kosher-Proplyene-Glycol-(PG).html
I have done it with RSO and QWISO. That is the way I like it best. I have never smoked or vaporized anything better than what the SVD is capable of with the iClear30. Two small hits and I am doing fine! Actually, the less vapor I exhale, the better the taste and the better the buzz. Hold your hit in and almost no vapor comes out when it is adjusted just right, it is the whoop!
I know exactly where you are coming from.
Edit: Oh yes, almost forgot. Just curious, try mixing some of the keif with the PG and a little heat and see if it works out. You may not need to make it into an oil first. Please, if you do try, let us know how it comes out.
I tried that it wont work, there is still plant material, you would need to filter it out. I'm not sure the absorption would be right.
That's why ill pitch it in the alcohool too
Dragon311
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Ahh, good to know, thanks for saving me the trouble/hassle. I'll just hold onto the kief for special occasions. Like the other night when I went to go see Smaug....smoked a bowl of kief right before I left (I live 5min from a theater) and topped off with my vape pen on the way, and actually in the theater too!
I fucking love this shit!Yeah the problem with kief in PG is that the kief particles gets stuck in the coil and then your liquid stops to pass.
It's not a huge problem, but rarely you feel up to un-clog the e-cig while your using it.
Also it's not so potent, once it's in the coil it's not vaping right, I think when you get some it actually got burned by the coil rather than vaporized
easy to slip in keif in alcohol that contains but already
I'm linking my new batch, I will soon do the same batch adding keif to see the impact on taste and buzz!
It's not a huge problem, but rarely you feel up to un-clog the e-cig while your using it.
Also it's not so potent, once it's in the coil it's not vaping right, I think when you get some it actually got burned by the coil rather than vaporized
easy to slip in keif in alcohol that contains but already
I'm linking my new batch, I will soon do the same batch adding keif to see the impact on taste and buzz!
Return on my 2 wash extract from last week-end.
I think the taste of 2 was is less nice than 1 wash!
I just wanted to say, when I finished my 2 wash, I merged both extract and combined them with PG to make the e-cig juice.
So I preferred the taste of a 1 wash a lot. I think I may continue to do 2 wash but not mix the results.
I think the taste of 2 was is less nice than 1 wash!
I just wanted to say, when I finished my 2 wash, I merged both extract and combined them with PG to make the e-cig juice.
So I preferred the taste of a 1 wash a lot. I think I may continue to do 2 wash but not mix the results.
Planning my 3rd and 4th extraction.
I still have about 5 ml of viable e-juice. I think it will last 1 or 2 weeks considering this is just my alternative intake.
Back to the root of this thread, I started a 4 week cold extraction process with PG (25ml) and some buds(2g) along with some kief(1g).
The idea is to use only THC imbued product for the 4th process in order to increase tastiness and potency.
So in about 1 month ill post an update on the 4th test.
Iv'e prepped my material for the 3rd extraction too, but I just got the alcohol and set it up in the freezer. I think ill do it in about 1 to 2 weeks anyway.
This one is going to be 2 7g extraction, the 1st: 7g of good buds, the 2nd: 6g of the same good bud + 1 g of kief.
I will do a 1 wash separately and a 2nd wash all product combined.
The end result should give, 3 different oil. I want to taste all 3 separately so I can determine taste and potency impact of kief and the 2nd wash.
In my previous run I felt like having 2 wash reduced the taste but I wonder if it's related with the fact that they were different buds.
I still have about 5 ml of viable e-juice. I think it will last 1 or 2 weeks considering this is just my alternative intake.
Back to the root of this thread, I started a 4 week cold extraction process with PG (25ml) and some buds(2g) along with some kief(1g).
The idea is to use only THC imbued product for the 4th process in order to increase tastiness and potency.
So in about 1 month ill post an update on the 4th test.
Iv'e prepped my material for the 3rd extraction too, but I just got the alcohol and set it up in the freezer. I think ill do it in about 1 to 2 weeks anyway.
This one is going to be 2 7g extraction, the 1st: 7g of good buds, the 2nd: 6g of the same good bud + 1 g of kief.
I will do a 1 wash separately and a 2nd wash all product combined.
The end result should give, 3 different oil. I want to taste all 3 separately so I can determine taste and potency impact of kief and the 2nd wash.
In my previous run I felt like having 2 wash reduced the taste but I wonder if it's related with the fact that they were different buds.
Right on! I just prepped my next extractions!
I decided to keep the 2nd wash separated.
I also opted for a first wash at 30 sec and 2nd wash at 3 min as per a suggestion made by WarMachine on this post https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/773486-qwiso-qwet-questions.html
I'v purchased new clearomizer for the e-cig and make sure they are clean for the taste test.
They heat at 1.8 OHM which will heat more than my prior ones too. http://www.canvape.com/v/vspfiles/photos/VISIONDC-3.jpg
Iv'e tested one on my previous batch and they work well, they are 2 coils too so 4 wick it works better than anything I tried so far.
Cant wait to test the kief infused batch, the oil is much golder looking!!!
I decided to keep the 2nd wash separated.
I also opted for a first wash at 30 sec and 2nd wash at 3 min as per a suggestion made by WarMachine on this post https://www.rollitup.org/concentrates-extracts/773486-qwiso-qwet-questions.html
I'v purchased new clearomizer for the e-cig and make sure they are clean for the taste test.
They heat at 1.8 OHM which will heat more than my prior ones too. http://www.canvape.com/v/vspfiles/photos/VISIONDC-3.jpg
Iv'e tested one on my previous batch and they work well, they are 2 coils too so 4 wick it works better than anything I tried so far.
Cant wait to test the kief infused batch, the oil is much golder looking!!!
Hi!
I'm done with all the extract. Here is the report:
The 1st wash with kief is the best so far. It's kinda hard to differentiate the 2nd wash from the 1st wash... There is a difference but it's light. The main difference is that I collected 0.5g out of the 2nd wash VS 1.0G in the 1st wash.
The no kief batch is ok, but the 2nd wash is really green looking and has a less pleasant taste. There too I had about half of the return on the 2nd wash.
I might never do a 2nd wash again....
I remember my first batch, It was a unique wash and it tasted so good. I want to get back to that taste.
I may do 2nd wash again but adding new kief into it.
I think I need to extend my 1st wash however, seeing that I was still able to get 50% on a 2nd wash of 3 min after a 1st wash of 30 sec...
I'm planning to do maybe 2 to 3 minutes wash using ethanol.
Ill get back to you guys later and let me know what you think!
I'm done with all the extract. Here is the report:
The 1st wash with kief is the best so far. It's kinda hard to differentiate the 2nd wash from the 1st wash... There is a difference but it's light. The main difference is that I collected 0.5g out of the 2nd wash VS 1.0G in the 1st wash.
The no kief batch is ok, but the 2nd wash is really green looking and has a less pleasant taste. There too I had about half of the return on the 2nd wash.
I might never do a 2nd wash again....
I remember my first batch, It was a unique wash and it tasted so good. I want to get back to that taste.
I may do 2nd wash again but adding new kief into it.
I think I need to extend my 1st wash however, seeing that I was still able to get 50% on a 2nd wash of 3 min after a 1st wash of 30 sec...
I'm planning to do maybe 2 to 3 minutes wash using ethanol.
Ill get back to you guys later and let me know what you think!
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