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obama's DOE has better rate of success than bain capital

Samwell Seed Well

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1) How many US jobs have resulted from green investments?
2) Yes, there are many private companies involved with the government. They are called "contractors". But NASA itself is not a private company, so all you are telling me is that the government is leading the charge and paying contractors to do the real work.
is the answer 7
 

Doer

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People are already flunking the Stupid Test.

Playing who lies the most is a fools game. Elections are not about these details. It is about direction and strategy.
To compare the DOE success rate is looking for lies. Bain Capital is a Corporation. The missions are different
the resources are not owned or entitled to DOE for this and what this drivel states is lies about the Lies the DOE.

You want to compare 2 men by comparing a giant govt steamroller like the DOE to Bain Capital. And what are the success criteria
and how can that even be compared? DOE stole our money. That's the differnce. Not a fair comparsion at all.

What a stretch of desperation.
 

Samwell Seed Well

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desperation . . .what a great thread

whats not fair and the a real issue is that we dont have a qualified incumbent or candidate

didnt vote before might not even vote again . . Washington state swings dem like clockwork
 

kelly4

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What was Obama's response to all of Romney's lies?

I know! I know! It was "Uhhhh". LOL!
 

Samwell Seed Well

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What was Obama's response to all of Romney's lies?

I know! I know! It was "Uhhhh". LOL!
id be pretty dumbfounded to here blatant lies from someone who wants 53% of the population to trust him

but in the end they both play that game . . lying for effect
 

canndo

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The government is not supposed to pick winners and losers. The government is not a venture capital firm borrowing money from China to pay for it's pet projects.

Secondly, much of the money went to companies that had Obama donors as investors. They were typical sleezy Chicago corruption kickback deals.

Notice how Uncle Buck had nothing to say until he went and got his talking points from the liberal media... ROFLMAO!


No winners and losers eh? So the government is not supposed to award multi-billion dollar contracts to aircraft and ship manufacturers? How exactly does that work in the real world?

And how do we compete as a nation on the global front when most of the other countries ARE "picking winners and losers" and backing the industries they feel will win - like China is backing solar and Germany is backing wind. But our industries are supposed to compete along and unassisted with those other countries.

The point is that if we don't have, and assist our government in "picking winners" then the country itself will be the loser.
 

UncleBuck

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Obama lies...

"I will reduce the deficit by half by the end of my first term* (he has doubled the deficit...)
the bold is a straight lie.

obama did cut the deficit in half, it took him 5 years instead of 4 though.

why you always gotta lie, NLXSK?
 

Dr Kynes

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the bold is a straight lie.

obama did cut the deficit in half, it took him 5 years instead of 4 though.

why you always gotta lie, NLXSK?
you are the one who is lying, dingbat.

FY 2007, the federal deficit was $161 Billion
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21179989

FY 2012, the federal deficit was 1.1 TRILLION, which would be better than 700% MORE you illiterate douche.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/business/federal-deficit-for-2012-fiscal-year-falls-to-1-1-trillion.html?_r=0

700% more is not 50% less.

even an idiot like you should recognize this.
 

UncleBuck

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you are the one who is lying, dingbat.

FY 2007, the federal deficit was $161 Billion
http://www.cnbc.com/id/21179989

FY 2012, the federal deficit was 1.1 TRILLION, which would be better than 800% MORE you illiterate douche.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/13/business/federal-deficit-for-2012-fiscal-year-falls-to-1-1-trillion.html?_r=0

800% more is not 50% less.

even an idiot like you should recognize this.
goddamn you are insufferably stupid today.

bush's work did not end in 2007, you blithering halfwit. obama took office in 2009, his first budget started in 2010.

cherrypick those numbers harder.

1998$69.2 Billion Surplus$99.28 Billion SurplusDRR
1999$125.6 Billion Surplus$176.16 Billion SurplusDRR
2000$236.4 Billion Surplus$320.76 Billion SurplusDRR
2001$127.3 Billion Surplus$168.16 Billion SurplusRDR
2002$157.8 Billion Deficit$205.2 Billion DeficitRDR
2003$377.6 Billion Deficit$479.8 Billion DeficitRRR
2004$413 Billion Deficit$511.14 Billion DeficitRRR
2005$318 Billion Deficit$380.84 Billion DeficitRRR
2006$248 Billion Deficit$287.7 Billion DeficitRRR
2007$161 Billion Deficit$181.51 Billion DeficitRDD
2008$459 Billion Deficit$498.37 Billion DeficitRDD
2009$1413 Billion Deficit$1539.22 Billion DeficitDDD
2010$1294 Billion Deficit$1386.92 Billion DeficitDDD
2011$1299 Billion Deficit$1350.31 Billion DeficitDDR
2012$1100 Billion Deficit$1120.16 Billion DeficitDDR
2013$759 Billion Deficit$759 Billion DeficitDDR
 

Dr Kynes

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goddamn you are insufferably stupid today.

bush's work did not end in 2007, you blithering halfwit. obama took office in 2009, his first budget started in 2010.

cherrypick those numbers harder.

1998$69.2 Billion Surplus$99.28 Billion SurplusDRR
1999$125.6 Billion Surplus$176.16 Billion SurplusDRR
2000$236.4 Billion Surplus$320.76 Billion SurplusDRR
2001$127.3 Billion Surplus$168.16 Billion SurplusRDR
2002$157.8 Billion Deficit$205.2 Billion DeficitRDR
2003$377.6 Billion Deficit$479.8 Billion DeficitRRR
2004$413 Billion Deficit$511.14 Billion DeficitRRR
2005$318 Billion Deficit$380.84 Billion DeficitRRR
2006$248 Billion Deficit$287.7 Billion DeficitRRR
2007$161 Billion Deficit$181.51 Billion DeficitRDD
2008$459 Billion Deficit$498.37 Billion DeficitRDD
2009$1413 Billion Deficit$1539.22 Billion DeficitDDD
2010$1294 Billion Deficit$1386.92 Billion DeficitDDD
2011$1299 Billion Deficit$1350.31 Billion DeficitDDR
2012$1100 Billion Deficit$1120.16 Billion DeficitDDR
2013$759 Billion Deficit$759 Billion DeficitDDR
so the 2008 deficit, which he was gonna slash in half was 498.37 billion, and now in 2013 the deficit is 759 billion, cuz 759 is HALF of 498...

or do youm propose he was gonna slash half the deficit HE HAD YET TO CREATE with his time traveling powers as a Magic Negro?
 

UncleBuck

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so the 2008 deficit, which he was gonna slash in half was 498.37 billion, and now in 2013 the deficit is 759 billion, cuz 759 is HALF of 498...

or do youm propose he was gonna slash half the deficit HE HAD YET TO CREATE with his time traveling powers as a Magic Negro?
are you retarded?

do you expect someone to take office and their budget to take effect in the amount of time it takes you to pilfer and nuke one of your cousin's hot pockets?

do you just go by different definitions than the rest of the world?

even fox news pegged the deficit that obama promised to cut at well over a trillion, you fucking doofus.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/24/obama-plans-cut-deficit-half/

WASHINGTON -- President Obama pledged boldly to cut the trillion-plus dollar U.S. budget deficit by half in his first term, even as he announced massive spending to revive the sagging economy.

not even fox news buys your $498.37 billion, cherry picked, number shuffling, buffoonery.

just go away you fucking clown.
 

Dr Kynes

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are you retarded?

do you expect someone to take office and their budget to take effect in the amount of time it takes you to pilfer and nuke one of your cousin's hot pockets?

do you just go by different definitions than the rest of the world?

even fox news pegged the deficit that obama promised to cut at well over a trillion, you fucking doofus.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/24/obama-plans-cut-deficit-half/

WASHINGTON -- President Obama pledged boldly to cut the trillion-plus dollar U.S. budget deficit by half in his first term, even as he announced massive spending to revive the sagging economy.

not even fox news buys your $498.37 billion, cherry picked, number shuffling, buffoonery.

just go away you fucking clown.
i didnt cherry pick shit i pulled 2007 as my BOOSH deficit at random.

even if you assume that he promised to cut HIS trillion dollar deficits (which didnt exist in 2008 when he was campaigning...) by half, 758 billion AINT HALF of a trillion

you keep shuffling that goalpost around randomly, maybe someday youll find the sweet spot.

even more hilarious, when did the Magic Negro get his first budget passed? ohh yeah... 2012.

he was running continuing resolutions off the boooosh budget til 2012, which is a sure fire way to get deficits shooting to the moon

and those deficits dont even consider the costs of O-care and other future liabilities from his poor decision making skills.
 

UncleBuck

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i didnt cherry pick shit i pulled 2007 as my BOOSH deficit at random.
that is 100%, absolute, unadulterated horse shit. and you know it. you purposely chose the smallest deficit bush ever had.



even if you assume that he promised to cut HIS trillion dollar deficits (which didnt exist in 2008 when he was campaigning...) by half, 758 billion AINT HALF of a trillion
$1539.22 Billion Deficit

versus

$759 Billion Deficit

do you want to do the math here, or shall i?
 
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