cloning problem

JohnDee

JohnDee

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Joe,
Since the cuttings have no roots to absorb water, you want to limit transpiration by cutting off everything except the top leaves. And a dome is crucial. Even a cardboard box with saran wrap is better then nothing.
JD
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Joe,
That's sort of a matter of opinion. Personally I go 18/6 and give them some rest. If they get a little wilty, adding ,moisture is the thing. Depending on the dome, you can mist the inside. When I was just learning, I'd actually mist the plants and still got fair success. There's a full 4 episodes of Jorge Cervantes on cloning out on the internet. Just search youtube or Google.
Peace,
JD
 
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joedaddy805

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ok so i clipped some more off the clone. this is a pic of my dome right now its a 99% rh and the temp is at 80. i haven't misted the lid but it looks good to me from what i see. should i just leave it alone until it dries up inside then mist again?


 
blowincherrypie

blowincherrypie

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watch the rh.. those pistils will rot and mold on you quick as shit.. Honestly, unless you're preserving a strain revegging just is not worth the inevitable headache.
 
RIPE

RIPE

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Hey man use one part Formula 77 or some good potting soil and two parts perlite. Mix it in a bowl with RO water like you're making a cake. Put the plant in a 2-3 inch hole in a one gallon pot and cover it (the hole) with Jiffy Mix because its very light. Water that with RO (reverse osmosis) water, straighten the plant up, and the new roots will have lots of room and air. Unless you live in a very dry area don't worry about humidity. If you gave them 10-14 days to sprout roots in a good cloner they will grow (may grow even without roots). It works for me. Also chant a mantra 1000 times and it will work for you. Just kidding - try it and good luck.
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Joedaddy,
I always used some sort of starter media rather then just dirt. My choice was rockwool if I was going into hydro or peat pucks if they were gonna be soil plants. I heard one guy say "root shooters" works great. Since it's a complicated process and any one step along the way can mess you up, use a written guide so you don't forget anything. Cleanliness is important. I used a specific cloning dome with an adjustable air vent so that...oh say a week in I could start drying the environment a bit. Stimulates plant to suck moisture through roots and encourages root growth. Almost everybody has problems but once you get it figured out...then it will be a snap. And of course there are always aero cloners but I have never used one.
Cheers,
Jamis

PS Ignore Blowcherriepie's post. I think he posted on wrong thread or thought you were re-vegging (an advanced technique)
 
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bluerock

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You are all over the map with your process, and that is why you are failing. Get rid of the heat mat, that is only needed if temps dip below 68F or so. Read my posts on this thread for a reliable and very simple methodology that is 100% successful.

EDIT: The pic of your humidity dome with water all over the sides, that is way too high humidity. Also, the only time I would ever trim fan leaves is if you have to cram a lot of clones in a tray (but this is best avoided), to reduce leaf overlap. Otherwise, trimming the fan leaves is a waste of time. You want the clone to transpire; that means it is growing. The more leaf surface area available to absorb light, the faster the rooting.

As for aero cloners, I believe them to be a waste of money unless you are running some massive commercial operation where such automation would be useful.
 
fir3dragon

fir3dragon

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joedaddy805 said:
ok so i clipped some more off the clone. this is a pic of my dome right now its a 99% rh and the temp is at 80. i haven't misted the lid but it looks good to me from what i see. should i just leave it alone until it dries up inside then mist again?


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i think your making this harder on yourself then it really is. You DONT need a dome. like i said, ive had 100% success without a dome..

all i do is cut the side branch i want a clone off the plant.
i immediately stick it in a cup of water until all my clones are cut... so keep a cup with a little water in it nearby so you wont be running all over the place
once all clones are clipped and in the cup of water, i take 1 out at a time take everything from the lower 2-3 inches off.
skin lightly the bottom inch or 2 of the stem (just take a sharp knife, and slide it over the stem to take the outer dry part off i can notice the difference before and after)
make sure the pot of soil for your clone is already watered with phed water.. i use coco so i do 5.8ph
cut the stem at a 45 degree angle, place in medium
push it around the stem, so its nice and snug and doesnt blow over lol.


i do that process one at a time per clone.
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Blowincherriepie wrote: He is re-veggin
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My humblest apology to you Blowincherriepie. I totally missed that post. Didn't mean to besmirch your fine name.

Reveg cloning is more difficult and perhaps Joe, you should learn and polish your basic techniques first.
JD
 
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joedaddy805

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i know its harder but thats all i have at the moment. i just thought i would give it a try. when my other plant gets big enough i will take cuttings from that one but thats gonna be a few months till i can do that.
 
JohnnySocko

JohnnySocko

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repeating another poster but I've found using sterile tools,et helps a lot... if rot has been a issue then; so does dipping the stems in a mild bleach solution (emphasis on mild, like a drop/gal)...
BTW:
I've recently been also experimenting with various rooting media... tentatively it looks like 100% vermiculite roots a lil faster than the other stuff (perilite, rockwool, rapid rooters) but is sorta messy for hydro .... I'm open to being wrong given my sample size
 
JohnDee

JohnDee

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Joedaddy wrote: i know its harder but thats all i have at the moment. i just thought i would give it a try. when my other plant gets big enough i will take cuttings from that one but thats gonna be a few months till i can do that.
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Joe,
With a re-vegging clone...the poor cutting is tasked with two issues: Revamping it's internal chemistry to become a vegetative plant and establishing roots. So your cloning technique must be impeccable.

If you fail at establishing a clone, remember that at the end of harvest...if you leave mainstem and some branches and leaves, you can reveg the whole plant by putting it into a veg cycle of light.
JD
 
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joedaddy805

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ok i thought it was gonna be harder to clone from flower but not that hard. i guess ill just wait till my other plant gets bigger then ill try my cloning then. thanks for the help
 
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