27 arrested in five county marijuana bust

TonightYou

TonightYou

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TheMan13 said:
Michigan criminal law (section 8 ) specifically states an uninterrupted supply and I would argue intentionally does not reference the 12 plant/2.5 oz limits of the MMMP administrative/Michigan civil law (section 4) because it is clearly not reasonable.

Any thoughts on why/how local LEO went to a federal criminal court to obtain these warrants? IMO It's a special kind of corruption that funds this machine and by no means is such a victim-less crime, willful/malicious Entrapment at best.
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I like your interpretation and find that it wouldnt be a bad argument. Issue being the limits were set even though it is contradictory wording.

How the Feds get in on this? I can only speculate I know of two ways. A state law enforcement can request federal help in an investigation for one. The second being if these individuals conducting ANYTHIN that can be construed as interstate commerce, banking, using a credit card or pretty much any finacial transaction. Feds can be involved even if only state charges are brought.
Yes its a racket, especially the seizure laws.
 
CCCmints

CCCmints

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slumdog80 said:
After reading tonightyou's posts the last week I think I may have had a change
in perspective. How dare these criminals provide a dangerous drug to people that
want this substance for an actual medical need or to just to improve their quality
of life. How dare they take money away from hard working, honest and peaceful
cartels and reinvest in their own state. They had a whole 500 plants between 27
people. When you figure they have 10 harvests a year at 20lbs a plant, I mean
that's like a billion dollars between 28 people. They must of had like a 100
"runners, flippers, and money launders" lol involved. I heard a private jet from
Switzerland used to fly in once week to pick up all the cash.

This is why we build prisons, to bury these scum underneath them. Thank goodness
we have the fine men and woman of the state police who risk their lives to protect
our children from these savages.

PS Is it my turn to pick up the gasoline for the cross burning this week, or are you getting it?
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i stopped reading after 20 lbs a plant. do you have any idea what you're talking about...?
 
Mad Hamish

Mad Hamish

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ommp911 said:
LOL..Lots of rich people that screw with the tax man and get away with it ALL the time...jails are not full of smart guys.
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Lots of them DON'T. How many do you know personally to base your silly assumption upon? Only stupid people go to jail, huh? You must be around 20 years old, perhaps younger. So naive it's almost cute.
 
abe supercro

abe supercro

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“Certain motherfuckers think they can fuck with my shit, but you can't kill the Rooster. You might fuck him up some times, but, bitch, nobody kills the motherfucking Rooster. You know what I'm saying?”
-David Sedaris
 
trueliving

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The overwhelming opinion amongst west michigan citizens is that this bust was a massive waste of taxpayers money. So they brought down one group. Do they honestly believe they are making a difference? Also its funny how the media portrayed them as a crime ring. I hope more comes to light, there is more to the story. The bottom line is patients have a legal right to access theor medicine and our piece of shit government wants to do anything to stop that. Even if that means destroying the lives of good citizens.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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Imagine if the media simply quoted and/or asked the number of MMMP patients that were impeded access to medicine due to this "bust"? I do believe this simple fact of their lack of consideration in the matter would be in clear violation of this states medicinal laws. Actually the mere existence of these law must be completely ignored to justify any use of force by state agents against it's citizenry based on the clear and wrongful Schedule I categorization by the federal government. How do they like to say it, ignorance is not a defense under the law?
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index.ssf/2013/10/prosecutors_ask_to_dismiss_cha.html

Charges dismissed WTF?!?

I'd like to know exactly how many patients no longer have access to medicine given these unjustified state actions. As impeding access is clearly addressed in our medicinal marijuana law (section 4), their lack of consideration would be in clear violation of same.

It's time for patients to stand up and begin suing these state agencies in protection of their caregivers. We need to negate the obvious seizure and federal revenue streams that motivate these actions and this is one sure way if successful.

If one of these individuals is your registered caregiver:
  • Kimberly Monique Adema
  • Calvin Joseph Brown
  • Merribeth Devries
  • Kevin Lee Downey
  • Curtis Daniel Fairchild
  • Benjamin Allen Fialek
  • Erin Nicole Forestier
  • Cody Andrew Fyre
  • Brandon Edward Goerbig
  • Casie Lynne Hanis
  • Nathan Edward Hanis
  • Douglas Lee Harjer
  • Debora Kay Housley
  • James Stanley Housley
  • Robert James Housley
  • Vanessa Kay Housley
  • Braden Daniel Kasper
  • Lori Lynn Larabel
  • William Ernest May
  • Dalton James Miller
  • James Lee Moore
  • Nicholas Patrick Perri
  • David James Searer
  • Molly Ann Taylor
  • Shawn Andrew Taylor
  • Leslie Ann Wimmer
  • Robert Dorr White
Please file suit against: Kent County Sheriff Department, West Michigan Enforcement Team, East Grand Rapids Public Safety Department, Grandville Police, Grand Rapids Police, Grand Haven Public Safety Department, Kalamazoo Public Safety Department, Oceana County Sheriff Department, Muskegon Police, Muskegon County Sheriff Department and Walker Police; for impeding access to your medication.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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Kent County Sheriff Department
Sheriff Larry Stelma
701 Ball Ave., NE
Grand Rapids, MI 49503
(616) 632-6111


WEMET - West Michigan Enforcement Team

WEMET is a multijurisdictional drug enforcement task force, which consists of five teams and an administrative unit responsible for investigations in Muskegon, Ottawa, and Allegan Counties. The jurisdictions serviced by WEMET are Muskegon, Ottawa, and Allegan Counties. Participating agencies are: Michigan State Police, Ottawa County Sheriff’s Department, Allegan County Sheriff’s Department, Muskegon County Sheriff’s Department, Holland Police Department, Muskegon Police Department, Muskegon Heights Police Department, Norton Shores Police Department, and Grand Haven Department of Public Safety.


East Grand Rapids Public Safety Department
770 Lakeside Dr SE
Grand Rapids, MI 49506
(616) 940-4870


Grandville Police Department
3181 Wilson Ave. SW
Grandville, MI 49418
(616) 538-6110


Grand Rapids Police Department
(616) 456-3400
333 Monroe Ave NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49503


Grand Haven Public Safety Department
519 Washington Ave
Grand Haven, MI 49417
(616) 842-3460


Kalamazoo Department of Public Safety
215 W Lovell
Kalamazoo, Michigan 49007
(269) 337-8994


Oceana County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Bob Farber
216 Lincoln, P.O. Box 32
Hart, MI 49420
(800) 442-0043


Muskegon Police
980 Jefferson Street
Muskegon, MI 49440
(231) 724-6750


Muskegon County Sheriff's Office
Sheriff Dean Roesler
25 W. Walton St.
Muskegon, MI 49440
(231) 724-6236


Walker Police Department
4343 Remembrance Rd NW
Walker, MI 49534
(616) 453-5441
 
slumdog80

slumdog80

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• Police executed 28 search warrants on Oct. 16 and 17, resulting in seizures of drugs, and “several hundreds of other items of evidentiary value that must be itemized and cataloged."
• The government expects more than 50 police officers to file reports, detailing the searches and seizures and statements of witnesses and defendants.
•The government intercepted telephone calls between alleged co-conspirators until Oct. 15. More than 1,000 calls were intercepted, and are still being transcribed.

All were released on personal-recognizance bonds.

Holy F, that's a lot time/money invested by the state. There must not be meth, crack, heroin or any other crime going on.
I agree with theman, suing is the only thing that works.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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slumdog80 said:
All were released on personal-recognizance bonds.

Holy F, that's a lot time/money invested by the state. There must not be meth, crack, heroin or any other crime going on.
I agree with theman, suing is the only thing that works.
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That was Friday brother! Today they dismissed those charges they had brought against them and then released on personal-recognizance bonds for. This whole thing is obviously a bunch of shit just about to hit the fan IMO :eyesmoke: Let's hope our media can do it's job of exposing this corruption for exactly what it is. Without a free press we necessarily have tyranny just like this ...

 
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computergroove

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TheMan13 said:
That was Friday brother! Today they dismissed those charges they had brought against them and then released on personal-recognizance bonds for. This whole thing is obviously a bunch of shit just about to hit the fan IMO :eyesmoke: Let's hope our media can do it's job of exposing this corruption for exactly what it is. Without a free press we necessarily have tyranny just like this ...

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I appreciate the enthusiasm on this. Read the dismissal article near the bottom. "Taylor allegedly said he planned to harvest $3 million of marijuana, police said in court records." The law states that you cannot profit from the manufacture of the medical marijuana. I really hope you're right. Taylor should not have run his mouth about how much money he will make.
 
TheMan13

TheMan13

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computergroove said:
I appreciate the enthusiasm on this. Read the dismissal article near the bottom. "Taylor allegedly said he planned to harvest $3 million of marijuana, police said in court records." The law states that you cannot profit from the manufacture of the medical marijuana. I really hope you're right. Taylor should not have run his mouth about how much money he will make.
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Brother wrong is wrong no matter that most are doing it. Right is right no matter how few are doing it. You will be cool with this lawfare until they come for you ...
 
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