opiates, the vicious cycle

[yktind]

You ought to find a way to stop the pain first, or else you're dooming yourself to relapse. If you want to try kicking, get your MD to Rx a good sedative like Valium or phenobarbital or Klonopin. You'll want enough to keep yourself asleep most of the time for at least four or five days. On top of that you need a blood pressure medicine like Clonodine for the heebie-jeebies. Get some Imodium and ibuprofen from a drugstore and start taking them before you start to withdraw. I never had any reefer when I was kicking so I don't know if it helps or hurts. Remember you're going to sweat like a racehorse and no one, I guarantee, wants to change their sheets in the middle of opiate withdrawal, so plan accordingly. But really, if you're in that kind of pain and opiates are the only relief, you've no reason not to take them. But if you start chasing the dragon, you'll never catch it.

Sweat like a whore in church!

 

[yktind]

Cold turkey is the way to go imo you don't wan't methadone thats for damn sure. I got a good price on the pills so I was selling them but also taking some after a while I was hooked I've tried kicking a few times shits the devil I was a month through withdrawals just too check it out online and find out it takes up to 3 months for the worst and still half a year later your not right so I started taking them again. Now I'm doing dope for 3 months after that I'll kick it in a week all these dudes going to the clinic and shit they aint getting clean they just traded one addiction for a worse addiction. I'd take any addict thats hooked on an alternative drug saying there clean with a grain of salt. If there wasn't all this miss information by junkies saying how much better methadone is I'd have never picked up a habit come to find out the withdrawals last months and these addicts take it for years upon years there not clean no way there on a harder drug methadone is 7.5 times stronger then morphine twice as strong as heroin with over 3 months of withdrawals. Not too sure about suboxone withdrawals but that shits even stronger and longer withdrawals then heroin too.

I've always been good with opiates I'll get a little habit take a break and I'm good not methadone that shit really grabs a hold of you I can't afford to be laid up a month let alone 3. Thank god for cheap dope.

Methadone = Gov Leash.

Also it takes 3 months to detox off of methadone. This does not include time getting off the other shit. It also stores itself in your bones making withdrawls much worse. But hey at least your not on heroin.

Suboxone or the old fashion. I've done both and have never touched methadone. Have a few buddies that took that trip and guess what 7 years latter guess what their still on... Methadone.

To each his own. Stick it out man.

 

[yktind]

You can do it man! I'm right here with you. Its been 7 days, A whole week with no pain pills for me.

The cravings are pretty much gone, pain is at an annoying level but not severe, and my intestinal tract is in utter rebellion. It kinda feels like having a mild flu.

Emotionally is where I'm having a hard time. I just feel down, even with some decent sativa and some kratom. Things I normally enjoy just don't seem tempting, even sex doesn't have much appeal right now. I didn't even know I hadn't eaten yesterday until my girlfriend pointed it out and made me eat.

Just gotta ride it out a bit longer, I know i feel 10x better once my brain chemistry sorts itself out.

I'm not trying to discourage you Supchaka, we both know it gets worse before it gets better. BUT IT WILL GET BETTER!

You feel exactly how your suppose to. lol it ain't fun man but the reward is very much worth it. You will have your life back. In your control not the opiates.

 

[Skuxx]

I remember the emotional part being interesting since I'm not an emotional person whatsoever. During w/d, I think I cried 2 or 3 times during movies I was watching. Eating is super important. Avoid cheese though.... Learned that the hard way.

 

[Mr ADHD]

I remember the emotional part being interesting since I'm not an emotional person whatsoever. During w/d, I think I cried 2 or 3 times during movies I was watching. Eating is super important. Avoid cheese though.... Learned that the hard way.

LMAO about the cheese part, that what the prunes are for!

 

[Mr ADHD]

You feel exactly how your suppose to. lol it ain't fun man but the reward is very much worth it. You will have your life back. In your control not the opiates.

I honestly FEEL more like a human being again already. As in omg I can FEEL things again, Im not a zombie!

 

[Impman]

Get a sheet of LSD or start taking mescaline as often as possible. I run daily and am functioning at a high enough level mentally to maintain a 4.0 GPA at a community college.... lol not saying much about the community college but I am certainly not retarding my brain with psychedelics ...... Anyways, thats just me though... I think mescaline is the answer to everything though LOL.....If I could take it once a week I would....oh, and smoke pot everyday just for fun.... that gets pretty addicting too though but you can still function at a high level physically and mentally on pot.....i smoked a bowl and ran a marathon a couple months ago...i don't know if you could shoot up morphine and go for a jog....maybe.

 

[rory420420]

Imp the thing is most addicts/users can and do the same as you..they just can't get away from the lifestyle they are forced to live through addiction..I've known many addicts who live daily (almost) perfectly healthy lives..they just don't wanna do it with opiates..kinda like ciggarette smokers if you can equate the two...

 

[rory420420]

And if you could take mescaline once an hour I feel you would...hahahaha!

 

[bluntmassa1]

Methadone = Gov Leash.

Also it takes 3 months to detox off of methadone. This does not include time getting off the other shit. It also stores itself in your bones making withdrawls much worse. But hey at least your not on heroin.

Suboxone or the old fashion. I've done both and have never touched methadone. Have a few buddies that took that trip and guess what 7 years latter guess what their still on... Methadone.

To each his own. Stick it out man.

what are you talking about heroin is so much better 1 week no more withdrawals maybe some lingering effects I went a whole month cold turkey on methadone shit was horrible can't sleep for shit you got this insane itch in your finger tips, toes, tongue, lips just like this fiending itch joint pain and some crazy back pain it feels like someone kicked you right in the spine you have no energy and I only did the first month you do feel a little better a month in but far from normal. Thats why I'm doing dope its cheap and 1 week I'll be clean after 3 months of course the withdrawals may be more intense but I can afford 1-2 weeks being laid up 3 months I'd be homeless I'm not gonna over do the dope too much though come the 3rd month I'll be cutting down I'm already not taking very much methadone I got down to 5 mg last time now I'll take 5-10 mg a day so I doubt I'll need more than 2 bags a day and if I grab a finger not only will it be cheaper but not cut so bad either. I can't think of one reason methadone's any better even in Europe they use heroin to wean off addicts just sucks I'm gonna have to wait 3 months for the dones to get out of my system.

 

[Mr ADHD]

Today is 10 days clean. I'm starting to get more energy and my intestinal tract is a lot more stable. The pain is getting a little more then annoying now, but its manageable.

The pharmacy called this morning to ask if I needed them to fill my prescription. Saying no was harder then I thought it was going to be.

 

[Impman]

Have you tried psychedelics for pain relief? I find mescaline relaxes my muscles, I look 5 years younger when a trip and the next few days because my face muscles, particularly my creese in my brow disappears. worth a try, and it will help with withdrawls too. get some shrooms or mescaline, you can legally order both online

 

[Skuxx]

Today is 10 days clean. I'm starting to get more energy and my intestinal tract is a lot more stable. The pain is getting a little more then annoying now, but its manageable.

The pharmacy called this morning to ask if I needed them to fill my prescription. Saying no was harder then I thought it was going to be.

Nice! Keep it up... you are passed the worst of it for sure. Are you getting decent sleep? Sleep was the killer for me. I actually started hallucinating pretty crazy stuff after enough days with no sleep. I remember smoking a bowl outside, in the florida heat shivering with sweatpants on... and could see one of my buddies in the chair next to me. Thought nothing of if, and I started talking to him and when I tried to pass the pipe, *vanish*. That was the highlight of my opiate w/d.

 

[yktind]

Today is 10 days clean. I'm starting to get more energy and my intestinal tract is a lot more stable. The pain is getting a little more then annoying now, but its manageable.

The pharmacy called this morning to ask if I needed them to fill my prescription. Saying no was harder then I thought it was going to be.

 

[supchaka]

Well today is the last day of my taper. Took only 1 today. Already felt like a bus hit me when I woke up. To make it worse is I have a friend that has roxy available which is even better than the norcs. I texted her awhile ago, she replied back that she'd get back to me this afternoon so I'm in limbo trying to talk myself into going through with it. Ahhh good times.

 

[Impman]

i took mescaline and i have no pain. just feel love . all day lolipop

 

[Mr ADHD]

Well today is the last day of my taper. Took only 1 today. Already felt like a bus hit me when I woke up. To make it worse is I have a friend that has roxy available which is even better than the norcs. I texted her awhile ago, she replied back that she'd get back to me this afternoon so I'm in limbo trying to talk myself into going through with it. Ahhh good times.

Stay strong man, you can do it! Don't give into the "one more pill" urge.

 

[Mr ADHD]

Have you tried psychedelics for pain relief? I find mescaline relaxes my muscles, I look 5 years younger when a trip and the next few days because my face muscles, particularly my creese in my brow disappears. worth a try, and it will help with withdrawls too. get some shrooms or mescaline, you can legally order both online

I've grown P torch and San Pedro for years. They are just a hobby to grow, the 2 times I tried mescaline I was too miserably nauseous to enjoy any of the other effects.
I do have some truffles coming Holland though. They are probably about 5 days from being delivered. I'm really looking forward to my 1st trip.

 

[LIBERTYCHICKEN]

Hallucinogens as pain killers ...............

Not a chance

 

[Mr ADHD]

Hallucinogens as pain killers ...............

Not a chance

Lol, that wasn't my intended use when I ordered the truffles