darrellduaner
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people dont really believe in god or the bible even though they claim they do.
are people who truly belive the bible mentaly retarded?
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Nice Ol Bud
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I think it's a shame this mans comment got any likes.
Be a little more open minded.. Yea man I understand where your coming from.. but the way I was raised.. people that respect get respected.
Who the fuck cares if someone believes in vampires or werewolves... yea it upsets me too bro.. I'd love to sit down with those people and talk to them and listen why..
I bet they all really don't know.. I'd love for them to get educated as well and for us to move on as a Race.
But if they respect you.. then show them respect back. Some mind's are really undeveloped.. and won't develop further..
and natural selection has almost completely ceased in our society... so those individuals survive. Even mentally/physically ill people are raised and some have kids..
Anyways bro it's a complicated topic and I'd love to keep communicating.. but I hate typing.. i'd rather sit in a circle.. roll up.. and discuss..
All im saying to you.. just show some more respect to the uneducated people.. but hey.. i bet they know shit you don't or ever will(that's beneficial to you.. not a werewolve has an average of 86 teeth type shit lol).
Think about this if it has any impact on you.. wouldn't take my time to type this if what i'm saying didn't have any meaning..
Just spread the love man.... and be more open minded..(not saying your not... but just a tad bit more!
)None of us are perfect.. and ever will be..
NoB
Ringsixty
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That's like saying people really don't believe in the Koran and Allah.... Duh... Hello!
I guess they don't in your mind.
Nice Ol Bud
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What are you talking about?
There is definitely a handful of people out their that are using religion to get a crowd.
darrellduaner
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he didnt say that he didnt respect PEOPLE for their beliefs; only that he didnt respect THE belief. there is a differenceI think it's a shame this mans comment got any likes.
Be a little more open minded.. Yea man I understand where your coming from.. but the way I was raised.. people that respect get respected.
Who the fuck cares if someone believes in vampires or werewolves... yea it upsets me too bro.. I'd love to sit down with those people and talk to them and listen why..
I bet they all really don't know.. I'd love for them to get educated as well and for us to move on as a Race.
But if they respect you.. then show them respect back. Some mind's are really undeveloped.. and won't develop further..
and natural selection has almost completely ceased in our society... so those individuals survive. Even mentally/physically ill people are raised and some have kids..
Anyways bro it's a complicated topic and I'd love to keep communicating.. but I hate typing.. i'd rather sit in a circle.. roll up.. and discuss..
All im saying to you.. just show some more respect to the uneducated people.. but hey.. i bet they know shit you don't or ever will(that's beneficial to you.. not a werewolve has an average of 86 teeth type shit lol).
Think about this if it has any impact on you.. wouldn't take my time to type this if what i'm saying didn't have any meaning..
Just spread the love man.... and be more open minded..(not saying your not... but just a tad bit more!
None of us are perfect.. and ever will be..
NoB
they dont. they really do not believe such things. you think people can actually believe in a god that has a plan for the entire world, but he answers? a kind god that will make you suffer forever? an all powerful omniscient god that gets upset or angry or jealous? you think people will entertain all of these qualities of their god without having any conflicting thoughts? they do not.
well what if you eliminate one of the conflicting characteristics? what if god answered prayer and did not have a plan for the whole world?
-simple: pray for something only god can do and watch it not happen. pray for something that is very highly unlikely and watch god not do it. he still wont answer prayer for some reason....
-what if you only believe that god is omniscient and has a plan?
-well then the next time someone is sick or dying rejoice; all is going according to plan. If you get fired from work tomorrow dont worry. (two weeks ago i watched my girlfriend's grandmother have a heart attack in front of me. her mom said out loud "dont go". seems like we really dont believe there is a plan. just thought that was some relevant anecdotal evidence) nothing is happening that wasnt planned so you need not worry or even act
-what if god was just omnipotent?
-then he'd have the power to be omniscient and around we go.
cigarette smokers employ some for of dissonance to justify smoking (or to cozy up to the likely painful death that awaits [cant believe i have anecdotal evidence for death by lung cancer to be painful]) and drinkers do the same to rationalize drinking even though they know down somewhere in their brains that this justification is false and they shouldnt do it. same with prayer; you know there isnt anything up there responding to you and you know that books claims arent worth a grain of rice in china (although that stanfor prison experiment showed some disturbing things about people) but for whatever reason, (conformity most likely) you will express you
Beefbisquit
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I think it's a shame this mans comment got any likes.
Be a little more open minded.. Yea man I understand where your coming from.. but the way I was raised.. people that respect get respected.
Who the fuck cares if someone believes in vampires or werewolves... yea it upsets me too bro.. I'd love to sit down with those people and talk to them and listen why..
I bet they all really don't know.. I'd love for them to get educated as well and for us to move on as a Race.
But if they respect you.. then show them respect back. Some mind's are really undeveloped.. and won't develop further..
and natural selection has almost completely ceased in our society... so those individuals survive. Even mentally/physically ill people are raised and some have kids..
Anyways bro it's a complicated topic and I'd love to keep communicating.. but I hate typing.. i'd rather sit in a circle.. roll up.. and discuss..
All im saying to you.. just show some more respect to the uneducated people.. but hey.. i bet they know shit you don't or ever will(that's beneficial to you.. not a werewolve has an average of 86 teeth type shit lol).
Think about this if it has any impact on you.. wouldn't take my time to type this if what i'm saying didn't have any meaning..
Just spread the love man.... and be more open minded..(not saying your not... but just a tad bit more!
None of us are perfect.. and ever will be..
NoB
I always respect people. I don't necessarily respect their ideas.
Religion is just an idea, albeit a bad one....
I'm not so close minded that I reject evidence. I would love to be seriously moved by some religious evidence, but there's just not a good chance of that happening given the evidence that's currently available.
tyler.durden
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Greatest I am
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Truer than you know. [video=youtube;iV2VjdpVonY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV2VjdpVonY[/video]
Heisenberg
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Nevaeh420
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People that believe in religions WANT to believe in religions. Some people don't want to go to hell and as a precaution they believe the lies just to be safe. Some people actually believe in the fairly tales for real but the fairy tales have been passed off as facts by the leaders of that religion.
I don't think people are retarded that believe in religion but they are very misguided but they will think they are on the path to heaven or whatever. Some people believe in their religion because its popular to do so in their society. Some "holy" books have some truth in there too so its hard for the believer to discern the fact from the fiction because its integrated into one book.
Some very smart people believe in the Bible but its probably because their parents believed in it too. I can almost guarantee that if the Bible came out as a new book today, many people would just laugh at it and totally disregard it as fairy tales and fables. But because the Bible has been infecting the world since around 2,000 years ago (or more if you're just talking about the old testament) and at those times there was no science like today.
I used to be a Christian until I watched the movie Zeitgeist in 2008. Now, I hope there is a God but I don't believe in Jesus or most of the Bible!
Zeitgeist
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~PEACE~
I don't think people are retarded that believe in religion but they are very misguided but they will think they are on the path to heaven or whatever. Some people believe in their religion because its popular to do so in their society. Some "holy" books have some truth in there too so its hard for the believer to discern the fact from the fiction because its integrated into one book.
Some very smart people believe in the Bible but its probably because their parents believed in it too. I can almost guarantee that if the Bible came out as a new book today, many people would just laugh at it and totally disregard it as fairy tales and fables. But because the Bible has been infecting the world since around 2,000 years ago (or more if you're just talking about the old testament) and at those times there was no science like today.
I used to be a Christian until I watched the movie Zeitgeist in 2008. Now, I hope there is a God but I don't believe in Jesus or most of the Bible!
Zeitgeist
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~PEACE~
eye exaggerate
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Is it because the fairy tale is immaterial and we live in a material world?
Are you a material girl?
Nevaeh420
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I'm a material boy. I'm made up of material.
Eye, you know that I'm a dude so what are you talking about?
You should have read enough posts to see that I'm claiming to be Christ and when is Christ a girl?
~PEACE~
eye exaggerate
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lol, sorry, Madonna joke.
Greatest I am
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In esoteric language God is neither male nor female Jew or gentile. Gnostic Christians, unlike Christians, do not discriminate against women. We Gods recognize the Goddesses. Regards DL
Nevaeh420
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I heard the song before a long time ago. I just don't understand your logic about where you got that from, from the post you quoted by Me.
I don't know much about God to be honest but I have some expectations of what God would be like. God could be any sex, including hermaphrodite but I doubt God is a hermaphrodite. And God also could have no sex, no pun intended. I could care less what sex God is as long as He or She is benevolent and cool and only wants to help. I'm going to refer to God as a He though just because I always have thought of God as a dude. For all I know, there could be no God at all but who or what created the Big Bang?
I believe I'm Christ and I'm a dude. So THIS Christ is a dude!
~PEACE~
Greatest I am
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John 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man loveme, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come untohim, and make our abode with him.
Luke 17:21 Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there!for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.
Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also didpredestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be thefirstborn among many brethren.
As you can see, you do have back up in your view.
Who but you can make you voluntarily do anything?
You are God/Jesus in a very real sense.
Regards
DL
Nevaeh420
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1) I do have scripture to back up My claims but its not the scripture you quoted. Go to the link below to see the scripture that backs up My claims. Go to post # 182 and then come talk to Me. I'm interested in what YOU have to say Greatest I am!
https://www.rollitup.org/spirituality-sexuality-philosophy/671505-what-would-make-future-christ-19.html
2) I agree with you here, no one can make anyone do anything voluntarily because it wouldn't be voluntarily if its forced.
3) I'm not Jesus or God in any real sense. If I'm a god then we are all gods and I do believe we are all gods but no one but God is God, whoever God is. And I'm not Jesus either because My name is George but I am as close to Jesus as anyone else. I'm the new Christ, the Christ of this AGE! "AGE to AGE He stands and time is in His hands." I have come to this AGE to be the Prophet that is going to lead the people into the best future ever imagined!
~PEACE~
Z S, You don't think I'm hearing you, right? I hear you. Your saying there's always that POSSIBILITY that I'm wrong. I get it.
What I don't think your hearing is that within my understanding that possibility is very slim to infinitesimal.
In your understanding that possibility is much larger.
My belief is based on much experience. I've seen & experienced what most people wont. I had my 1st experience with the supernatural at 15. A friends much older boyfriend was a dark witch who messed with the Ouija board [amongst other things] with very negative effect. Six others witnessed, one night in particular, when things went bad.
I don't mean to be condescending but your young Z S. There are no such thing as absolutes, no such thing as black or white. That's what a lot like to think when young. I know I did.
I don't know everything, far from it, but I know enough.
PS sorry haven't had time to view your link. I'll try to get to it later [the whole thing?]
Zaehet Strife
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Not larger, nor smaller. But it is there, always, no matter how large or small you perceive it to be, and the only way to make it go away is to pretend it isn't there. To pretend you are certainly right without doubt, yet the doubt lingers on your shoulder everywhere you go. No matter how hard you try to brush it aside it's still perched there, staring at you... but you can ignore it, which to me, is exactly what you and most people on this planet are doing.
"Yeaahh, i know there's a super small chance i might be wrong about what happens when i die... but i'll continue to believe with certainty that when i die i will continue to exist." -is exactly what you are saying.
Oh and on that note... ouija board's? Witches? Are you for real dude? You wanna debate with me about certainty and the probabilities of beliefs based on nothing but personal experience when you believe in voodoo magic and witches? Really....? I might as well start a debate with a ten year old kid who still believes monsters hide in the closet.
Meaningless, but what else am I gonna do at 9:00 in the morning, too cold to go to the skate park yet...
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