if you can only have 4 plants total

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dwight smokum

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how would you go about it?....if you have all kinds of room and money or electricity is no object... 12 and 12 from seed?....clone setup?....1000 watt light for 2 in veg,and 1000 watter for 2 in bloom room?...please share yer thoughts or experience with this. thanks
 
Jimdamick

Jimdamick

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Seeds, with as many 1000 watters than you can fit. AC of course and great ventilation. During your veg, pick a couple of mommies from those $15 seeds each seeds that you bought, and clone them and then run with it.
 
TheSnake

TheSnake

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grow a good strain, or 4 dif ones? that what you mean? I would get northern lights, white widow, sour diesel, and maybe some type of kush?
 
TheSnake

TheSnake

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grow each one in a fucking giant garbage can with good soil, and 1000 watts each... if i had to guess, thats what i would do, you would have some serious tree's !
 
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dwight smokum

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TheSnake said:
grow each one in a fucking giant garbage can with good soil, and 1000 watts each... if i had to guess, thats what i would do, you would have some serious tree's !
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snake,i like the way you talk....so put all 4 in garbage cans.. 3 in bloom room and one in veg to take clones from?...would 1000 be a bit much for 1 plant?..lol...this has got me excited. i can get ak47 and or northern lights.
 
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orangeade5

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Why would you even waste a plant for a mother? Just use feminized seeds and have 4 plants going all the time.
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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I would probably still keep a mother.... take 3 large clones (essentially whole branches) as soon as the three plants finish... always shape your mother to produce 3 large branch clones...
2 600s over three plants.
 
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dwight smokum

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HeartlandHank said:
I would probably still keep a mother.... take 3 large clones (essentially whole branches) as soon as the three plants finish... always shape your mother to produce 3 large branch clones...
2 600s over three plants.
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hank,how big of clones are you talkin about?..is a daisy cloner big enough?...and,two 600's instead of a 1000?......i appreciate yer help a lot. this is important to me.
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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Im not familiar with the Daisyy Cloner.. Whatever size you can get away with... maybe like 10 in clones...
I like to take cuts at branch splits too... like a topped clone basically...

You can take clones in coco or peat, in a pot, with a 1qt freezer bag over the top.. or, sit your cuts in a bucket and cover with saran wrap. whatever it takes to keep up the humidity and allow light in. There is also a spray that closes the plants stomata and allows you to root clones without a dome.. anti-transpirant - i think it's called "wilt proof" hydro shop should carry it.

Yeah... I like 2 600s over 1 1000. Definitely. You could grow veg under 1 600 then turn on the 2nd to flower..

Having few plants fill a big area efficiently might take some training... I like big tomato cages... Space the plants under the bulbs/centered, top the veg plant once or twice and train the growth away from the bulbs, the the perimeter, to fill out the roughly 3x6 space..

I like to keep mothers under T8 iighting... You don't need it to produce much, you'll be throwing away more growth than you will be cloning....If you could find a 2 bulb 2 ft T8 fixture.... that would do it...
http://www.shop.gyostuff.com/T8-T12-2ft-2-Bulb-Fluorescent-Grow-Light-Fixture-FLV22.htm
 
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dwight smokum

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HeartlandHank said:
Im not familiar with the Daisyy Cloner.. Whatever size you can get away with... maybe like 10 in clones...
I like to take cuts at branch splits too... like a topped clone basically...

You can take clones in coco or peat, in a pot, with a 1qt freezer bag over the top.. or, sit your cuts in a bucket and cover with saran wrap. whatever it takes to keep up the humidity and allow light in. There is also a spray that closes the plants stomata and allows you to root clones without a dome.. anti-transpirant - i think it's called "wilt proof" hydro shop should carry it.

Yeah... I like 2 600s over 1 1000. Definitely. You could grow veg under 1 600 then turn on the 2nd to flower..

Having few plants fill a big area efficiently might take some training... I like big tomato cages... Space the plants under the bulbs/centered, top the veg plant once or twice and train the growth away from the bulbs, the the perimeter, to fill out the roughly 3x6 space..

I like to keep mothers under T8 iighting... You don't need it to produce much, you'll be throwing away more growth than you will be cloning....If you could find a 2 bulb 2 ft T8 fixture.... that would do it...
http://www.shop.gyostuff.com/T8-T12-2ft-2-Bulb-Fluorescent-Grow-Light-Fixture-FLV22.htm
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the bloom room will be 14x14x8 ft ceiling..would you go vertical with 3 plants and 2x600 or a 1000 or would the two 600's horizontal be better?...would it make any difference?.....the daisy is a small cloner.
 
Doobius1

Doobius1

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We have a law in Canada that 5 plants or more is a mandatory 6 months sentence. Heres how to do it when plant count matters.
2 strains. One sativa dom the other indica. Daytime and night time smoke. Phenos are important. Both need to be around 9-10 weeks of flower time. Say 2 strains like AK-47 and Williams Wonder or Super Lemon Haze and Bubba Kush. Veg each strain for 8-9 weeks into scrog. Once they hit the flower room (in my case, 2 tents on flipbox,only one 1000 watt ballast and no 12 hour cycle stamp for the po po to read off my smart meter).One plant in each tent. RDWC, co2, res cooler..all the toys. As soon as they hit the tents, take a cutting off each and veg for 8-9 weeks and the cycle repeats. Fully perpetual. No mothers necessary and you can pull lb easy off each tent every couple of months. Kind of like the book Secrets of the West Coast Masters x 2. In a perfect world, environment, no issues, you should be able to pull 5 harvests or 10 lbs a year from 4 plants and one 1000 watt ballast.
 
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dwight smokum

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Doobius1 said:
We have a law in Canada that 5 plants or more is a mandatory 6 months sentence. Heres how to do it when plant count matters.
2 strains. One sativa dom the other indica. Daytime and night time smoke. Phenos are important. Both need to be around 9-10 weeks of flower time. Say 2 strains like AK-47 and Williams Wonder or Super Lemon Haze and Bubba Kush. Veg each strain for 8-9 weeks into scrog. Once they hit the flower room (in my case, 2 tents on flipbox,only one 1000 watt ballast and no 12 hour cycle stamp for the po po to read off my smart meter).One plant in each tent. RDWC, co2, res cooler..all the toys. As soon as they hit the tents, take a cutting off each and veg for 8-9 weeks and the cycle repeats. Fully perpetual. No mothers necessary and you can pull lb easy off each tent every couple of months. Kind of like the book Secrets of the West Coast Masters x 2. In a perfect world, environment, no issues, you should be able to pull 5 harvests or 10 lbs a year from 4 plants and one 1000 watt ballast.
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doobius,i'm checkin that out. thanks
 
mightyBUMone

mightyBUMone

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If money,electricity,and space were of no matter. I would grow 4 giants. Plant a new seed at each harvest. Each in its own 4k to 5k (just to throw a halide in the center, because money/electricity/space are no matter) room. Sealed and dialed to the T. With a giant vat of some organic goodness.

it would be perpetual, with 1 lady flowering at a time. 6 months veg from seed.

And I would Scrog like no mans Scrog'd before...
 
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dwight smokum

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mightyBUMone said:
If money,electricity,and space were of no matter. I would grow 4 giants. Plant a new seed at each harvest. Each in its own 4k to 5k (just to throw a halide in the center, because money/electricity/space are no matter) room. Sealed and dialed to the T. With a giant vat of some organic goodness.

it would be perpetual, with 1 lady flowering at a time. 6 months veg from seed.

And I would Scrog like no mans Scrog'd before...
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if you only flowered one at a time wouldnt you wind up with a plant that vegged for 18 months?....lol
 
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dwight smokum

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HeartlandHank said:
Im not familiar with the Daisyy Cloner.. Whatever size you can get away with... maybe like 10 in clones...
I like to take cuts at branch splits too... like a topped clone basically...

You can take clones in coco or peat, in a pot, with a 1qt freezer bag over the top.. or, sit your cuts in a bucket and cover with saran wrap. whatever it takes to keep up the humidity and allow light in. There is also a spray that closes the plants stomata and allows you to root clones without a dome.. anti-transpirant - i think it's called "wilt proof" hydro shop should carry it.

Yeah... I like 2 600s over 1 1000. Definitely. You could grow veg under 1 600 then turn on the 2nd to flower..

Having few plants fill a big area efficiently might take some training... I like big tomato cages... Space the plants under the bulbs/centered, top the veg plant once or twice and train the growth away from the bulbs, the the perimeter, to fill out the roughly 3x6 space..

I like to keep mothers under T8 iighting... You don't need it to produce much, you'll be throwing away more growth than you will be cloning....If you could find a 2 bulb 2 ft T8 fixture.... that would do it...
http://www.shop.gyostuff.com/T8-T12-2ft-2-Bulb-Fluorescent-Grow-Light-Fixture-FLV22.htm
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you say "train the plants away from bulb". is that so you could sort of put the bulb in the center of plant (center of 4 branches) and have those branches grow up the outsides of tomato cages?
 
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