Uruguay Legalizes, Sets price at $2.50/G

[HeadieNugz]

So apparently President Mujicas legalization effort will not only make Uruguay the first 100% legal country to fully lift its prohibition on cannabis,
But to undermine black market sales is setting the price RETARDED low. The equivalent of $2.50 USD per gram.
They can do this because apparently the legal cannabis industry will be ENTIRELY government controlled.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/01/world/americas/uruguay-lawmakers-to-vote-on-legalizing-marijuana.html?_r=0
http://www.thedailychronic.net/2013/25124/legal-marijuana-in-uruguay-would-cost-2-50-per-gram/

Any thoughts on this, or its potential ramifications on MMJ/RMJ policy currently under diliberation?

 

[gioua]

I think $2.50 a g is awesome... I still think I grow for less then that so I aint moving..

 

[HeadieNugz]

Amen to that, i just think *for a South American country* thats a mighty progressive step.
Between this, the DEA backing off, Co & WA already Recreational and Sanjay publicly on the team...
Our chances now are better than ever for a national push for a legitimate end to prohibition.

 

[Mad Hamish]

Entirely government controlled is BAD. That is the kind of scenario where Montsanto's going to step in with trans-genetic reefer. Round Up Ready weed. With the whole legalisation movement, this is my biggest fear indeed. Once the trans-genes start spreading, we're in shit. I don't like it.

 

[HeadieNugz]

Entirely government controlled is BAD. That is the kind of scenario where Montsanto's going to step in with trans-genetic reefer. Round Up Ready weed. With the whole legalisation movement, this is my biggest fear indeed. Once the trans-genes start spreading, we're in shit. I don't like it.

I deff hear what your saying Hamish, but isn't there a bit of middle ground there your making that leap to your conclusion over?
The Time's article states that consumers will be able to form grow co-ops of up to 99 plants, but have to sell it to the gov't for dissemination/dispersal.
As well as individual growing rights in house, just no right to sell your finished product.
Sure, the government run grows might end up like this, going the way of Mon's FrankenDank...
But is that not (strictly under the confines of this MJ legislation) a personal choice as far as weather or not one imbibes it, or grows ones own and stays away from the freaky FrankenDank entirely?

 

[doublejj]

I think Mad's right, because there's money in it.......that's monsantos game. It will soon be against the law to possess 'Non-round-up-ready' pot. And they will have all the resources of the police to enforce it!

 

[HeadieNugz]

I know Monsantos got deep pockets and big interests....
But you really think a 2nd world South American country is gonna be their playing field?
If anything, we've more to be worried about in Co than in Uruguay.
Or IL. even, with its policy just taking shape.
No, there is far too much progressive thought you two are ignoring in reading the policy in question here.
I understand the nature of the logic behind your postulation that the inevitability of privately funded public interest (in this instance) would result in corruption and a monopoly on the market with this RoundUpReady bizz... But its too far a step to take, analytically with no support but good 'ole paranoia and mistrust (rightfully so) of organized Government/ Corporations.

 

[Fungus Gnat]

I think Mad's right, because there's money in it.......that's monsantos game. It will soon be against the law to possess 'Non-round-up-ready' pot. And they will have all the resources of the police to enforce it!

and imagine if their pollen flies around and suddenly you have their gene markers in your strain.

 

[bigbillyrocka]

I deff hear what your saying Hamish, but isn't there a bit of middle ground there your making that leap to your conclusion over?
The Time's article states that consumers will be able to form grow co-ops of up to 99 plants, but have to sell it to the gov't for dissemination/dispersal.
As well as individual growing rights in house, just no right to sell your finished product.
Sure, the government run grows might end up like this, going the way of Mon's FrankenDank...
But is that not (strictly under the confines of this MJ legislation) a personal choice as far as weather or not one imbibes it, or grows ones own and stays away from the freaky FrankenDank entirely?

This is similar to states that have gov't ran liquor stores. In those states to sell hard alcohol one must first purchase a distillers license (and that is an astronomical number, especially to the everyday joe), then take the spirits and age then bottle them. After which time or once the spirits are ready (vodka is ready almost asap prior to distillation) take those bottles to the state ran liquor store so they can set the price. From there ypu pay all the taxes on the bottle (s) so you can sell them.
So basically a state ran setup similar to the above would AND could work. Theres more to it than that obviously but I'd rather have the option to grow it for a gov't store without paying 100k + before even being able to operate. This also mean an oz is $70 and a pound is $1120. I don't know about you but I can get a few plants to give me a pound pretty easily and then after electricity costs for the duration at mpst would cost maybe $300 (on top of my regular bill). So that's $720 extra per month on a single pound. Then pay whatever the taxes may be on it. Even at 50% would still be worth it to me. Then if you were to grow a larger number of plants that's another easy $1000 per pound before taxes.

 

[slowbus]

^^^^^^^^^^^^

 

[bigbillyrocka]

I'm saying if it came to that, I wouldn't vote for it to become that way however.
But out of those two scenarios I'd pick the latter, as I mentioned in that post. I'm not rich and I don't see me ever having 100 or more thousand in my account just chillin for at least another 10+ years.

 

[see4]

They can sell their $2.50/g weed all they want. Ain't nobody gunna be buyin. Because they will never be able to keep up with production and therefore be forced to raise the price. And you know they wont be growing fire.

Weed is definitely without a shadow of a doubt, "you get what you pay for" industry. You will always pay more for the good shit.

 

[HeadieNugz]

They can sell their $2.50/g weed all they want. Ain't nobody gunna be buyin. Because they will never be able to keep up with production and therefore be forced to raise the price. And you know they wont be growing fire.

Weed is definitely without a shadow of a doubt, "you get what you pay for" industry. You will always pay more for the good shit.

Your economical fallacies of logic aren't even worth the time of demeriting.

 

[see4]

Your economical fallacies of logic aren't even worth the time of demeriting.

oh really fuckbag? do explain? please. enlighten me. rather than use made-up-ical phrases such as "economical fallacies", why dont you support your statement with something evident.

i'll be waiting. probably a while. as nobody really fucking knows, only objective and unsubstantiated, anecdotal assumptions, as this Uruguayan policy is too new.

But seriously brain-iac-instein, please indulge us. Fuckbag.

 

[kinetic]

I just want to grow my own in peace.

 

[Kervork]

$2.50 be big money in Uruguay

 

[see4]

$2.50 be big money in Uruguay

$2.50US will get you a pack of unbranded cigarettes in Uruguay. Or Skoll, a brazilian beer, that sells like hotcakes in Paraguay, Uruguay and Argentina.

See, the Brazilian states of Matte Grossa, Santa Catalina and Rio de Sul all manufacture and distribute Skoll beer to these countries.. I know this because I travel to south america every year... so yea HeadieNugz.. please.. go into detail about how you know more than I do about South American economic policies... please.. go right ahead.. seriously brah. tell me.

 

[kinetic]

Is it good beer is the important question.

 

[see4]

Is it good beer is the important question.

no. its water. I can drink 14 or 15 skoll and still go about my day. when im there, thats what i drink to socialize. i will drink brahma if i want to get drunk.

 

[kinetic]

It's the coors light of south america it sounds like.